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Apple slows down last year's iPhones with IOS 12.1 | iPhone 8 and X customers beware

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Apple is slowing down the 2017 iPhones with iOS 12.1 and by default they will have performance throttling enabled to allegedly increase battery lifespan. It is possible to disable this although one has to wonder if non-techies will.

 

This affects iPhone 8, 8 Plus and X.

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With iOS 12.1, Apple has brought its controversial “performance management feature” (aka, throttling) to the iPhone 8, 8 Plus, and iPhone X. This functionality dynamically throttles the phone’s processor as its battery degrades over time to stop the handset from randomly shutting down — it can be turned off if desired. Previously Apple has told US senators that “hardware updates” meant that the feature isn’t as necessary on its newest phones.

The company has always maintained that all of its products include “fundamental performance management” functionality to protect its components.

 

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Additionally, users can see if the performance management feature that dynamically manages maximum performance to prevent unexpected shutdowns is on and can choose to turn it off … This feature applies to iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, iPhone SE, iPhone 7, and iPhone 7 Plus. Starting with iOS 12.1, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X include this feature, but performance management may be less noticeable due to their more advanced hardware and software design.

 

 

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This practice of throttling older devices recently resulted in a €5 million ($5.7 million) fine for Apple in an antitrust case brought by Italy’s competition and market authority, the Autorità Garante della Concorrenza e del Mercato (AGCM). It objected to Apple slowing down its phones without telling customers or giving them the ability to return to a previous version of the software.

With all the recently added models being just over a year old at most, it’s currently unclear how big of an impact battery degradation will have on them. But it’s not surprising that Apple has seen fit to address it. There’s no stopping batteries from aging, but at least you’ll be in control of how your phone handles their decline.

 

Lmfao GG iPhone 8 and X users ?.

 

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https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/10/31/18047174/iphone-x-8-plus-performance-throttling-battery-management-ios-12-1-update

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The only thing they had going for them...and they ruined it

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Dang it Apple....

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Just now, LukeSavenije said:

still a android fanboy here. I can get a gaming pc and a oneplus for the price of a xs max 512 gig

The only thing I REALLY hate about the apple products is the restriction for self repair (or 3rd party for that matter) and the prices. I mean they are good products.... Until they break half a year after I bought it...

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1 minute ago, Uptivuptiz said:

The only thing I REALLY hate about the apple products is the restriction for self repair (or 3rd party for that matter) and the prices. I mean they are good products.... Until they break half a year after I bought it...

I do that too, and becouse I repair my own products a lot. and the value isn't the best as I wanted to say.

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2 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

> Max Capacity: 100%

> "Peak Performance Capacity"

Android:*Hears the news about 2017 iPhones getting slowed down*

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It was bound to happen.

 

And that's why I've been telling the people I know who use iPhones to know that the toggle switch exists

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I am gonna be honest here. Battery degradation. When it will occur? One year? Two years? Three years from now? It's a bs concept if you ask me. Even on Android most batteries are still pretty good after 2 years, but that's when I swap them anyway, and I have yet to see an iPhone user having battery issues after 2 years minimum. My gf has started seeing issues after 2 and half years of usage on her 6S and she is gonna swap the battery soon, that's 3 years now. How about this Apple, it's good that the switch exists, but how about you turn it off by default and let users decide if they want to trade performance for battery life?

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Well at least since is doesn't say if affects them, my iPhone 6s will still be fine :) 

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3 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

How about this Apple, it's good that the switch exists, but how about you turn it off by default and let users decide if they want to trade performance for battery life?

Actually, I can do one better.

 

When the phone detects that the battery is degraded, it puts a persistent notification that says;

"The battery may require servicing. Functionality may be limited. Tap here for more info"

 

If the user taps it, it brings them to the battery health screen and allows them to turn off the performance throttling.

 

If it sounds familiar to Mac users, that's because they do in fact tell you when the battery requires to be replaced.

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1 minute ago, PacketMan said:

Wish Samsung didn't kill my Samsung Galaxy S5 performance just when the S7 came out, had to install a custom ROM with its bugs

And my gf's ZTE A610 has slowed down A LOT and it's only 2 years old lol

Wish Android manufacturers stop their bullshit too

Didn't know that. Why are all manufactures gotta slow down the phones? It's anti-consumer.

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Literally has the option to be turned off. I don't understand why this is a big deal again we already went over it.

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Just now, BuckGup said:

Literally has the option to be turned off. I don't understand why this is a big deal again we already went over it.

True. However for me it's the fact that it's on by default.

Please mention or quote me if you want a response. :) 

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Just now, Uptivuptiz said:

Didn't know that. Why are all manufactures gotta slow down the phones? It's anti-consumer.

Otherwise your phone will be at 20% and just shut off. Which does happen on older androids without a throttling feature. It's just androids don't last long enough for anyone to notice their batteries degrade

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2 minutes ago, Uptivuptiz said:

Didn't know that. Why are all manufactures gotta slow down the phones? It's anti-consumer.

To drive upgrades.

 

I think we all need to know one thing. Android also does planned obsolescence, just in a different way. Like 2-3 years of patches.

 

We need to realize that companies are not saints. Just because Apple is all evil and shit doesn't mean Samsung, Google and the like are saints. Hell, Google's recent decisions should be concerning everyone.

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25 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Otherwise your phone will be at 20% and just shut off. Which does happen on older androids without a throttling feature. It's just androids don't last long enough for anyone to notice their batteries degrade

The planed obsolescence sucks either way but it should prompt you before throttling or there should be some kind of warning like "iPhone detects your battery is worn out and may unexpectedly shut off" if you disable the throttling feature.

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25 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Otherwise your phone will be at 20% and just shut off. Which does happen on older androids without a throttling feature. It's just androids don't last long enough for anyone to notice their batteries degrade

not to be that guy, but i had an android phone for over 5 years, the battery started to last least and least and i had exactly this amount of shutdowns: ZERO.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, firelighter487 said:

i can see where Apple is coming from though.

Nobody else does it, and I don't recall anyone complaining about random shutdowns due to the battery with any other phones.

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1 hour ago, AluminiumTech said:

Lmfao GG iPhone 8 and X users ?.

 

#GetRekt #PlannedObscolence #JustAppleThings

 

Surely there’s a more mature way of expressing one’s opinion.

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45 minutes ago, D13H4RD said:

Actually, I can do one better.

 

When the phone detects that the battery is degraded, it puts a persistent notification that says;

"The battery may require servicing. Functionality may be limited. Tap here for more info"

 

If the user taps it, it brings them to the battery health screen and allows them to turn off the performance throttling.

 

If it sounds familiar to Mac users, that's because they do in fact tell you when the battery requires to be replaced.

The thing is, after those mentioned 3 years on the 6S, it says battery is good with 83% capacity. It can go from 100% to 0% in like 10 hours of doing nothing. THey would need to sort that as well. 

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The topic and general thrust of the OP is intentionally misleading.

 

Apple is not automatically slowing down these phones.  This only kicks in if the battery has degraded so much that the phone could shut down.  So long as the phone is reasonably healthy, you won't even see an issue... and as before, you can turn the throttling off if you don't mind the risk of your phone shutting down.

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4 minutes ago, FalconPDX said:

Surely there’s a more mature way of expressing one’s opinion.

Don't you know, 1ts tW3nTy 31Ght33N bRuh. Obvious sarcasm

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3 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Nobody else does it, and I don't recall anyone complaining about random shutdowns due to the battery with any other phones.

i decided to try and revive my old lg g3 a week or so ago, it started with 34% and after a few minute was at 4%. now yes that battery is 4 years old and probably hasn't been charged in like 2 years but still. 

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