Seasonic confirms Nvidia 12-pin connector

[illegalwater]

 

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A power supply connector has been unveiled on Bilibili. It’s a dual 8-pin to single 12-pin power cable with a length of 75cm.

According to earlier rumors, only RTX 30 Founders Edition models are to feature the new 12-pin power connector. NVIDIA is expected to bundle its own adapter with the cards.

Judging from the packaging the cable is called “NVIDIA 12-pin PCIe Molex Micro-Fit 3.0 connector”. Although the product appears to be finished, Seasonic claims it is currently only used for testing.

It is also worth noting that this cable will only work with Seasonic power supplies. The adapter to be bundled with the RTX 30 series is likely to use existing 8-pin power cables from power supplies and act as an extender. It is actually common for board partners to bundle dual 6-pin to single 8-pin power adapters with high-end models.

This is bizarre, will this ever actually be implemented on PSUs or will it be relegated to adapters forever?

Source

https://videocardz.com/newz/seasonic-confirms-nvidia-rtx-30-series-12-pin-adapter

[Kilrah]

Depends if it's for "only RTX 30 Founders Edition models" or not... if it doesn't go beyond that then there's no point implementing it in PSUs, but if NV decides to make it a common thing then it will.

[gloop]

So, essentially the same size as an 8-pin?

[19_blackie_73]

Are they that desperate for board space? Looks like a lot of engineering and product design for not much benefit.

[Haro]

I mean i don't get why they're doing this, what possible huge benefit  from making a 12 pin connector? unless i missed something because i don't keep up with ampere leaks.

[GreatnessRD]

Damn, need an 850 or higher power supply? Thing must be beefy, sheesh.

[Kilrah]

  

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

I mean i don't get why they're doing this, what possible huge benefit  from making a 12 pin connector? 

 

To have less wiring and be able to push as much power on 12 pins than on 3x8=24?

[Haro]

10 hours ago, Kilrah said:

To have less wiring and be able to push as much power on 12 pins than on 3x8=24?

3 8 pins? then yea i definitely  missed something lol..

[TrainFan475]

[Nena Trinity]

 

[dfsgsfa]

everyone gets a free heater

i read from morelawis dead it needs 3x8 pin

[AlTech]

24 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

Are they that desperate for board space? Looks like a lot of engineering and product design for not much benefit.

Moore's Law is Dead YouTube channel says this is the alternative Nvidia is giving board partners instead of using 3x 8 pin connectors.

 

20 minutes ago, GreatnessRD said:

Damn, need an 850 or higher power supply? Thing must be beefy, sheesh.

Yeah rumor has it the top Nvidia card is capable of pushing beyond 400W of power so they had to cap it at 400W.

[Bitter]

Laughs in Vega with 24 power pins.

[dfsgsfa]

2 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Yeah rumor has it the top Nvidia card is capable of pushing beyond 400W of power so they had to cap it at 400W.

heard that 390w is target watt, if power limit unlocks could reach over 400w

if most 550w psu has 4x8pin, it shall be just fine for the gpu

[CarlBar]

6 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

oof time to buy the cables then ,_, (assuming i'm getting the one that needs one)

 

The AIB models will mostly be 3x8 pin and the ones that aren't will come with an adaptor. I suspect this is more for OEM's and getting it out there as a standard for the future whereby they can reasonably raise the TDP on their upper end cards without future PSU's being unable to cope.

[NumLock21]

I see that's only for Seasonic modular PSU, where that cable plugs into 2 of them PCIe 8 pins and out come that single mini 12 pin. It doesn't look like a converter that can be used with any other brand of PSUs.

[Sauron]

2 hours ago, illegalwater said:

will this ever actually be implemented on PSUs or will it be relegated to adapters forever?

If they stick with it eventually I'm sure we'll see it on modular power supplies, maybe in the form of a 16pin (8+8 joint slot on the PSU) to 12pin cable to avoid adding a dedicated slot.

[VeganJoy]

i sure am glad i got some used seasonics that didnt have cables, got em super cheap and ebay has big ass baggies of official seasonic cables for 30 bucks. 4x pcie, 2x eps, bunch of satas. for the 3x8pin i wonder if you can fill 2 sets of pins in with a single daisy chained pair without having issues, or if youlll need 3 dedicated 8 pins

[Zodiark1593]

Soo, Thermi 2.0 anyone?

[GDRRiley]

3 hours ago, dfsgsfa said:

heard that 390w is target watt, if power limit unlocks could reach over 400w

if most 550w psu has 4x8pin, it shall be just fine for the gpu

that leaves 150W for the rest of the system which isn't enough.

a 750 or 850W could be pushing it with an OC intel CPU+ Nivida top end GPU

3 hours ago, TofuHaroto said:

3 8 pins? then yea i definitely  missed something lol..

3090 will likley need 3 8 pins to deliver enough power because dual 8pin max out at 375W vs 525W of 3

[CarlBar]

1 hour ago, Sauron said:

If they stick with it eventually I'm sure we'll see it on modular power supplies, maybe in the form of a 16pin (8+8 joint slot on the PSU) to 12pin cable to avoid adding a dedicated slot.

 

2x8 pins isn't going to meet the maximum this connector allows. It can draw upto 3x8 pins. More likely if it sticks we'll see a 12 pin connector on the PSU that can have  cables for one of these, or 3x8 pins, or 4x6 pins connected to it. If NVIDIA allows it, (not sure on the licencing on this thing), i could see it starting to replace 6 and 8 pins on motherboards for the more power hungry CPU's, (mainly HEDT, but potentially also high end OC regular desktop boards).

[jasonc_01]

1 hour ago, NumLock21 said:

I see that's only for Seasonic modular PSU, where that cable plugs into 2 of them PCIe 8 pins and out come that single mini 12 pin. It doesn't look like a converter that can be used with any other brand of PSUs.

Yeah I don't get it either, were they not talking about this 12 pin being 600 watt capable? I don't see an advantage beyond space and maybe is simplifies power delivery?

[GDRRiley]

2 minutes ago, jasonc_01 said:

Yeah I don't get it either, were they not talking about this 12 pin being 600 watt capable? I don't see an advantage beyond space and maybe is simplifies power delivery?

it goes into 2 plugs built to do dual 8pin giving it 600W

 

its all about simplifying power delivery

[Derangel]

Well, I need a new PSU anyway. Guess this is a good excuse to go for a Seasonic one. Hopefully these launch around the same time as the 3090.

[CarlBar]

16 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

it goes into 2 plugs built to do dual 8pin giving it 600W

 

its all about simplifying power delivery

 

As ntoed above dual 8 pin only does 2/3 of what this can do.