Nena Trinity

Hold it upside down and shake it?

@.Apex. New record! OwO

Testing 13-15-15-35-440-1T in memtest86 now, gonna go to bed and see the results tomorrow. ^_^

In that case would either of the two be able to do sub-400 on the trfc? Or is it VERY UNLIKELY? :I

Stick 2 and 4 are identical in Thaipoon Burner both does not specify other than it being a Samsung, its maybe a Samsung M-Die was it? If so is that the weaker link than the CJR? If so what would the lowest tRFC possibly go? And just to verify 1 and 3 are HyperX CJR sticks which had same OC on primary timings. Current OC profile MHz CL13-15-15-35-467-1T

Before they were apart, while the HyperX 2666 sticks @3600 were in the AMD system the G.SKILL still refused to do any better than 13-15-15...

Yep same PC both in the Intel system, the system has a 4x8GB setup while my Ryzen has a 2x16GB since ASRock are asshats and makes a board that refuse to run sticks in slot 1 and 3 any higher than 3066MHz! XD ((So I bought a larger capacity version of CJR since I knew they could hit 3600MHz most likely))

Wait why does CPU-Z? and Thaipoon Burner say Samsung? I agree that performance and behavior seems more like a Hynix CJR or C-Die which also explain why they function so perfectly with my other CJR kit with no stability issues.

At 2666MHz none of them would go any lower, the one I suspect is a CJR is only marked as Kingston DRAM by CPU-Z while the G.SKILL kit is marked Samsung, funny enough my other kit of HyperX 3699MH CL17-19-19-39 is clearly marked as SK Hynix in CPU-Z...

Its 100% a Samsung, a B-Die? Well Buildzoid said in a video 3200MHz CL16 Samsungs are very often reject or garbage tier B-Die so I assume it could be.

Funny enough at 1.35v both kits were at best to hit 13-15-15 and that is not very impressive...

I am not gonna aim for maximum performance that is for sure, the first kit of RAM is a SK Hynix, it was able to OC up to 3600MHz CL18-19-19-39 fine from 2666MHz CL16-18-18-39 just fine on my AMD system the other kit is probably a trash bin B-die since its Samsung 3200MHz CL16-18-18-38 I wont bet much on these so considering all that the weakest link is the Hynix or B-die? I guess I gotta settle with the weaker kits reccomended minimum right? X-X

So them being COMPLETELY DIFRENT, that means messing with it like in Ryzen case is a bad idea? For Ryzen the math should be 19 + 39 = 58, so for Intel how does one calculate the optimal tRFC? Or is default preferable?

AMD: *Bank Cycle Time (tRC) Intel: *Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) To my understanding the RIGHT setting should be tRP + tRAS = tRC as the correct setting right? But how come Intel have tRFC at 467?!! O_O What is the correct way to calculate minimum safe tRFC? Going from 467 down to 50 sounds kinda extreme?