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Like @CircleTech i'm having my doubts here. 

sure i like a tier list, but the way this one is compiled might be very labor intensive to keep up to date.

 

Maybe it would be easier to list the nand type's and controllers in tiers? They shouldn't change as often.

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Just now, CircleTech said:

Do we really need a tier list for everything? Because now the list will constantly have to be updated with new products.

 

Everyone on the forum: Yes

 

Well okay then. But I ain't maintaining it.

I feel like it's nice to have a point of reference, but I do see where you're coming from.

Please ping or quote me if you want a response. :) 

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2 minutes ago, CircleTech said:

Do we really need a tier list for everything? Because now the list will constantly have to be updated with new products.

 

Everyone on the forum: Yes

 

Well okay then. But I ain't maintaining it.

 

Yes I appreciate the effort you put into this, but just know you will not have to keep it updated.

Don't worry, I'll update it.

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1 minute ago, Caennanu said:

Like @CircleTech i'm having my doubts here. 

sure i like a tier list, but the way this one is compiled might be very labor intensive to keep up to date.

 

Maybe it would be easier to list the nand type's and controllers in tiers? They shouldn't change as often.

I have listed it this way, because from the POV of a newbie, they are likely to not know the difference between SLC, MLC, TLC and QLC.

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Just now, VEXICUS said:

I have listed it this way, because from the POV of a newbie, they are likely to not know the difference between SLC, MLC, TLC and QLC.

Sounds valid, as i said i don't think the idea is wrong or anything, just trying to provide a possible easier way to maintain this list.

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How about Transcend? They are a pretty large player. Other Kingston drives?

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Just now, 191x7 said:

How about Transcend? They are a pretty large player. Other Kingston drives?

Yes I m working on it

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7 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

Aliexpress SSDs here to save the day

Goldenfir for life 

AliExpress kingspec and kingdian ssds?

I guess, I'll have to add one more tier.

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Anyone can link me to every single thing tier? (mobo,psu and everything?)

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1 hour ago, VegetableStu said:

so how is it ranked? cell levels? rated writes? NAND origin and quality? controller and bus performance? o_o

Overall performance and endurance and also based on nand type

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SX8200 Pro should be switched around with the 960 pro. There is about a 1% difference with the SX8200 Pro and the 970 pro.

SX8200 Pro = ultra high end

960 pro = high end

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2 hours ago, GimmeGaming said:

SX8200 Pro should be switched around with the 960 pro. There is about a 1% difference with the SX8200 Pro and the 970 pro.

SX8200 Pro = ultra high end

960 pro = high end

But 960 pro has a higher DWPD than sx8200 pro.

960 pro has a DWPD of 0.43 whereas sx8200 pro has a DWPD of 0.35.

I am also distinguishing ssds based on their nand type and endurance.

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2 hours ago, VEXICUS said:

I am also distinguishing ssds based on their nand type and endurance.

NAND type isn't that good of an indicator of endurance, for that you look at DWPD and if that is not given in that format then get the warranty length in number of days and divide the TBW by that number to get (rough) DWPD figure.

 

Example:

SX8200 Pro 1TB

TBW: 640

Warranty: 1825 days

DWPD: 0.35 (640 / 1825)

 

When it comes to endurance DWPD really is the industry standard, NAND type doesn't matter as that is reflected in the DWPD rating and NAND OP etc. There are 3D TLC SSDs on the market with high DWPD ratings than some 3D MLC and 2D MLC.

 

Edit:

The HP EX950 is both spec sheet wise and benchmark at the same performance levels and endurance so these are equivalent. The Samsung 970 EVO is similar again but benchmarks superior to those former two mentioned. 

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1 minute ago, leadeater said:

NAND type isn't that good of an indicator of endurance, for that you look at DWPD and if that is not given in that format then get the warranty length in number of days and divide the TBW by that number to get (rough) DWPD figure.

 

Example:

SX8200 Pro

TBW: 640

Warranty: 1825 days

DWPD: 0.35 (640 / 1825)

 

When it comes to endurance DWPD really is the industry standard, NAND type doesn't matter as that is reflected in the DWPD rating and NAND OP etc. There are 3D TLC SSDs on the market with high DWPD ratings than some 3D MLC and 2D MLC.

I never said that nand type reflects endurance

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4 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

I never said that nand type reflects endurance

You said you were looking at NAND type, what I'm saying is that effectively doesn't matter because DWPD is specifically the rating for endurance.

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6 hours ago, VEXICUS said:

But 960 pro has a higher DWPD than sx8200 pro.

960 pro has a DWPD of 0.43 whereas sx8200 pro has a DWPD of 0.35.

I am also distinguishing ssds based on their nand type and endurance.

In fairness for a consumer drive this would be much less important as by the time your looking at them failing much cheaper / faster alternatives would be out.

Sure if your looking at enterprise scale products it makes sense but not so much for standard users.

Your ranking a faster/cheaper drive down a tier vs a competitor product because its endurance would be slightly less.

This is the issue with these tiers, they are very subjective.

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41 minutes ago, GimmeGaming said:

In fairness for a consumer drive this would be much less important as by the time your looking at them failing much cheaper / faster alternatives would be out.

Sure if your looking at enterprise scale products it makes sense but not so much for standard users.

Your ranking a faster/cheaper drive down a tier vs a competitor product because its endurance would be slightly less.

This is the issue with these tiers, they are very subjective.

The list has been updated with DWPD of all the SSDs.

For example (as above) :

Adata sx8200 Pro

TBW = 640

Warranty = 1825 days.

DWPD = 0.35 (640/1825)

This is how DWPD is calculated.

The list is now arranged according to the DWPD.

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Does the mp600 have a dwpd rate set yet?

You should add the DWPD beside the ssd in the post then if your rating it on that rather than throughput?

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Mushkin helix in same tier as 970 plus?? When it,s slightly worse than the ex900/sx6000 pro and shares the same controller?

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41 minutes ago, hello_there_123 said:

Mushkin helix in same tier as 970 plus?? When it,s slightly worse than the ex900/sx6000 pro and shares the same controller?

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39 minutes ago, hello_there_123 said:

Also this looks like very copied from this tier list... 

 

https://imgur.com/a/sYmbnMr

Copied, in what sense?

Compare my list side by side before making any false claims.

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On 8/8/2019 at 11:17 PM, VEXICUS said:

Welcome to the SSD tier list.

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SATA

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Tier E (Avoid These)

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So what if you're choosing between a Tier E SATA SSD, or a spinning HDD whose reliability reputation would make the Seagate ST3000DM001 or other Seagate HDDs (sorry @seagate_surfer), or IBM Deskstar 75GXPs from the early 2000s look like a Samsung 860 / 970 Pro or Intel DC P4800X (pro / enterprise SSDs)?  Would a Tier E SSD (or Kingdian / Kingspec / Goldenfir / whatever) be okay in a situation like that?

 

On the other end of the reliability spectrum, I've heard of ST-225s or ST-412s lasting upwards of 30 years ... Hey does maybe @seagate_surfer or anyone still has any functional ST-506s (the actual drive model, not just other drives that use that interface) laying around?  Also I might be interested in sometime getting my paws on a ST-157A or WD AC140 or other 40MB IDE/PATA HDD for fun. :) (I bet those might take no more than a minute or two to write all 40 MB...an MFM HDD might be interesting to toy with as well, but I don't have any MFM controllers (and don't know of any that work with PCIe or USB), just IDE/PATA.)

 

Also what SSDs would likely have better longevity than the aforementioned Seagate ST-225, and beat a 40MB PATA or 5MB MFM HDD in writing the entire drive's capacity?  And, how long until they cost as much less per M/G/TB (and have as much higher capacities) than backup tapes were vs HDDs in early 1994?  (See the photo of a local magazine ad from that era in the spoiler.)

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