Windows 10 proven to spy on users, regardless of settings or system tweaks.

[deviant88]

Heres another article if you guys dont trust the original post.

 

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/

[patrick3027]

I think the issue with the NSA is everywhere, not just windows but osx and Linux too, not to mention all the online services they may or may not have access to.

Well, Linux is open-source, which makes it much more difficult to put backdoors in it for the NSA.

 

http://falkvinge.net/2013/11/17/nsa-asked-linus-torvalds-to-install-backdoors-into-gnulinux/

[patrick3027]

Heres another article if you guys dont trust the original post.

 

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/

Put this source in the OP @iwasaperson, people will stop bitching about the unreliable source

[GoodBytes]

@GoodBytes

 

Given the nature of these claims, I recommend that this thread be moved to a more suitable location.  Claims made in the OP have not been sufficiently substantiated in order for this to qualify as news.

I have participated enough in these threads. It would be bias of me to manage it. If you really think so, report the thread so that another mod can evaluate your request.

Sorry, but that is the problem of wearing 2 hats. People requested that I do this (user / full expression of my opinion on things, and mod)

[Lethal Seraph]

Holy crap, batman. 

[qwertywarrior]

as i have always said

just block the links from the hosts file

[GoodBytes]

If anyone is interested, Ars looks into it:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft

Has interesting comments as well.

Apparently, based on users claims. Windows 8 does the same/similar (as it doesn't have Cortana), but no proof provided.

[LAwLz]

Heres another article if you guys dont trust the original post.

 

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/

Okay so Ars Technica has validated that yes, Windows 10 will ignore some of the privacy settings and will forcefully send some information back to Microsoft (even going as far as to ignore proxy settings), and Microsoft won't tell us what info is being sent (although we do know they have machine specific IDs being sent along with the data).

You'd have to be a colossal and irrational fanboy to continue to dismiss all the privacy concerns regarding Windows 10 at this point.

 

Windows 10 is spyware. There is no denying it anymore.

 

Hopefully Microsoft gets sued or gets flamed by their users over this. This is completely unacceptable.

[Swndlr]

Well at least I dont have a mic or webcam attached to my desktop, but the Blade does

[PudgyAstronaut]

Yep. And I have to stay for at least another 4 years, too, since I'll be going to Purdue soon. But, once myself and my two siblings are out (my sister's gonna be a junior, and my brother a senior), even my parents are leaving this state.

 

Woo, a Purdue peep. It's a small world after all. The state isn't ALL bad though.

[deadher0]

 

*wink*

[Shakaza]

Okay so Ars Technica has validated that yes, Windows 10 will ignore some of the privacy settings and will forcefully send some information back to Microsoft (even going as far as to ignore proxy settings), and Microsoft won't tell us what info is being sent (although we do know they have machine specific IDs being sent along with the data).

You'd have to be a colossal and irrational fanboy to continue to dismiss all the privacy concerns regarding Windows 10 at this point.

 

Windows 10 is spyware. There is no denying it anymore.

 

Hopefully Microsoft gets sued or gets flamed by their users over this. This is completely unacceptable.

Yep, there's no denying it now. I wonder what Microsoft's response is gonna be?

[Altecice]

Why is this shocking? Samsung smart TV's also spy on you, your phone spys on you... None of this should worry people when they are spamming lots of personal information to EVERYBODY via Facebook/Twitter. Just people being paranoid imo.

[MageTank]

Yep, there's no denying it now. I wonder what Microsoft's response is gonna be?

The same response they give to every bad press they get. "It's a feature!"

[ShadowCaptain]

Windows 10 is spyware. There is no denying it anymore.

 

Yeah its pretty bullshit

 

A part of me doesn't care, because I like W10 and don't care too much, but the other half of me is extremely angry that they would do something like this

 

As you say, its basically spyware but an entire OS based around it

 

EDIT: to further this, I think its fair enough that an OS makes trade offs in privacy to provide convenient features, for example cloud storage, voice search, password syncing,  - i think if somebody wants to opt out of these things, it should be a simple process, -  if Microsoft are still collecting data you have turned off, that is wrong

[GoodBytes]

Okay so Ars Technica has validated that yes, Windows 10 will ignore some of the privacy settings and will forcefully send some information back to Microsoft (even going as far as to ignore proxy settings), and Microsoft won't tell us what info is being sent (although we do know they have machine specific IDs being sent along with the data).

You'd have to be a colossal and irrational fanboy to continue to dismiss all the privacy concerns regarding Windows 10 at this point.

 

Windows 10 is spyware. There is no denying it anymore.

 

Hopefully Microsoft gets sued or gets flamed by their users over this. This is completely unacceptable.

So then you are a hypocrite, as mentioned, you must not use any Google services, including it's search engine, nor Chrome web browser, and have to drop your Android phone (well any free apps and Google apps in there).

It is either or, not both.

[silberdrachi]

So then you are a hypocrite, as mentioned, you must not use any Google services, including it's search engine, nor Chrome web browser, and have to drop your Android phone (well any free apps and Google apps in there).

It is either or, not both.

 

While yes, i think that it is true that its someone hypocritical to say that Microsoft and Google are totally different, but when Google was called out on issues with Google Now ignoring settings to not send telemetry data they fixed the issue. Same for when they were storing location data. Same with Apple and Siri, and Apple and their maps.

 

The issue for me isn't that it is sending data back, its that its sending data back when the user told it not to. And that the only real way to disable it would be to force blocking of the IPs on the router.

 

I have an expectation of privacy when i disable these actions, and i understand that by disabling cortana some stuff shouldn't work, but i also ASSUME that that should be stopping the data transmissions. They also don't fully define anywhere exactly what data is being sent back and why, which also chaffs me.

[Kilerbomb]

ITT: Linux fanboys as far as the eye can see.

[minibois]

RIP privacy

Why they gotta do this shit.. Oh I know why, because advertisers and the NSA and GBI pay good money for it

[LAwLz]

So then you are a hypocrite, as mentioned, you must not use any Google services, including it's search engine, nor Chrome web browser, and have to drop your Android phone (well any free apps and Google apps in there).

It is either or, not both.

What are you on about? How am I a hypocrite exactly?

[MageTank]

What are you on about? How am I a hypocrite exactly?

Because you are a hippo crit. 

 

[sof006]

To me this sounds like a thread made to bash Windows 10.

 

The whole "Linux is superior" vibe just emanates from it. In all honestly I have noticed no background data traffic on my network, I would notice as I have all my devices in my house hooked up to a router capable of monitoring upload/download connections and when my PC is idle no data is being moved. I leave my PC on pretty much all the time, went out the house yesterday to walk the dog and was out of the house for a good hour. Came back to it doing nothing.

[typographie]

The quoted article cites a very questionable source. These are just claims at this point, as far as I'm concerned. I'm certainly not reformatting with Windows 7 based on this.

 

I'm no expert on this, but I feel like the level of data collection claimed by the article would use up a very significant percentage of the system's resources: CPU time, memory, upload bandwidth… enough that I think it could have been noticed by even some casual observers ages ago. Yet, as it stands, Windows 10 seems as lean or leaner than 7 or 8.1.

[dragosudeki]

I'm no expert on this, but I feel like the level of data collection claimed by the article would use up a very significant percentage of the system's resources: CPU time, memory, upload bandwidth… enough to be noticed by even some casual observers ages ago. Yet, as it stands, Windows 10 seems as lean or leaner than 7 or 8.1.

That's a interesting quote. Has there been any checks on what Windows 7 or 8/8.1 does? Really hard to believe that Windows 10 'added' a feature of gathering information, yet is still using less resources than their older OS. This could possibly just be a result of paranoia about the new software, yet we still have to realize what the older software has done.

[MrRavens]

Reminds me of the beginnings of the XBONE.