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Finally starting to understand memory overclocking on Ryzen:
Might even have my incomplete memory OCing guide finished one of these days, lol. I can't remember the name of whomever recommended the B550 Unify series from MSI, but you do still have my thanks. I can't wait for the Unify X to launch here in the states as I can feel this board starting to hold me back a little, and I imagine that boards trace topology will better suite my dual rank DIMM's than what this quad-DIMM board currently can.
Now that we've proven sub-50ns is possible on Ryzen platforms, we just need to baby it until we find stability. Right now, training is still very broken on this latest MSI BIOS and I have to manually train this to get it to boot, but I imagine this will get better as they improve the AGESA firmware.
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I'll try to get to it. I don't feel comfortable teaching others when I myself am still learning something. The Intel guide was easy for me because I've been OCing ram on Intel since Haswell. I had memory overclocking experience on AMD in the past with Phenom II but I wasn't entirely sure if it translated all that well. Surprisingly, some of the older strategies still work and is what allowed me to break sub-50ns while others are still struggling, so I imagine most people will laugh when they see some of the tricks behind getting the above latency results to work.
I also plan on doing a CPU overclocking guide for Ryzen, as this generation of CPU's is very interesting. The new PBO2 curve optimizer is allowing for some very interesting results. I've been able to hold a 5.1ghz overclock across multiple cores while gaming on a 5950X with a negative core offset and it managed to beat my 5.2ghz 8700k, which still shocks me. All while consuming less power in the process.
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Even if not an "official" guide, I'd be interested in reading about your trials and errors with Ryzen. Adding some unofficial posts about it to your OC guide might even help you organize some of your thoughts, and I would love to read them.
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That might be a good idea. I can always just reply to the thread with me beating my head against the wall until I figure it out, then update the first page with the actual information that worked. It really is a lot of that at the moment though, mostly me winging it because most people kinda relied heavily on the Ryzen DRAM calculator and that kinda stifled people from experimenting with more in-depth overclocking, so no real information is readily available.
Still, I've learned a ton over the last 2 weeks, enough to make me dangerous on benchmarks. Now if I can figure out the IMC's voltage tolerances and find that perfect groove for stability, I'll be good to go.
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Had a good time tinkering with my personal 5950X over the weekend:
Now I just need to get my hands on the elusive 1.1.9.0 AGESA firmware for this board that only appears to be available in China. Apparently it helps stabilize FCLK beyond 1900mhz and should allow me to push a little harder with less voltage. Should also fix the latency desync issue at this clock speed too. That, and it allows access to the curve optimizer, which should be extra fun.
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Alright, once again I have another weird request. Anyone know where to find these radiators for sale?
The official website brings me here: http://www.coolgate.net/radiators_360HD.htm with "copper plating optional", but no means of ordering it. No local sellers have it and I can't find any store online with this finish. This radiator fits the design aesthetic of an upcoming build I have planned, so I'd like to source it if at all possible.
More of my component selection below.
With some copper tubing and nickel/silver fittings, I am likely going to be satisfied with the end result. Any assistance I can get with locating these rads would be appreciated.
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I found a couple 240mm rads here:
Anything else seems to be out of stock
https://www.performance-pcs.com/water-cooling/radiators.html?color=939
There is this 360mm rad BUT you'll have to do some sanding to the outside and repaint it:
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@LurickThanks for the information. That first copper rad looks great, however it definitely needs cleaned up from where they did some soldering. I've been checking into local places here in Ohio that offers copper plating, so hopefully that will open up my options quite a bit. I've also stumbled across a few of these radiators that I don't think looks all that bad with the aesthetic of my blocks:
The sand blasted surface looks a little weird, but I could always sand and polish that myself. It also wouldn't be difficult to disassemble these pieces and have them painted/plated. My only concern is the tubing inside the rads. I've been watercooling for quite some time, and ancient watercooling wisdom dictated that flat tubes were better than round tubes in terms of flow impedance. Anyone know if that still holds true these days? I won't be using a traditional D5 pump, it will be slightly weaker (1100 liters per hour) with slightly higher head pressure. Considering I'll be using 4 of these rads, I don't want to run into an issue where I run out of pressure.
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Well, I caved in and bought a board I didn't want as a temporary means to learn MSI's AMD BIOS while waiting for the Unify X.
Hopefully they get the Unify X in soon and I can use this 4-dimm version as a Christmas gift for someone else afterwards. Now to secure a reference PCB RTX 3080 so I can finish this custom build of mine.
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This is going to be a longshot, but if anyone could find these chrome side plates in-stock anywhere (even internationally, I am fine to pay shipping to the US), I'd appreciate it. They fit the aesthetic for my upcoming build perfectly and I want to use them with their water block.
https://www.xs-pc.com/discontinued-2/neo-memory-waterblock-side-plate-set-chrome
I can find the black chrome, but I need the normal chrome.
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I'm pretty sure this is what you want
https://www.amazon.com/XSPC-Memory-WaterBlock-Slot-Chrome/dp/B07613PLCQ
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That is indeed the block I want, however it doesn't include the side plates, which is primarily what I am after. The block itself I was able to find on Performance PCS as well as Titan Rig's Newegg storefront, but those chrome side plates seem to be completely discontinued. I have not checked to see if other side plates from different manufacturers are compatible, but I am pretty set on this aesthetic and I would like to source these plates if at all possible.
I am trying to contact the manufacturer too just to see if they have any they are willing to sell, but so far it's been looking grim.
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