Three times the charm - New AMD CPU announcement + big Navi Teaser

[SFFDesigns]

Performance uplift seems good, but price hikes are too high.

 

I can get a 10700K + Z490-F for $499 right now

[AlfaProto]

Just now, Fatih19 said:

Considering the 3900X is already about 400 dollars, wouldn't be surprising its price dropped below that. They don't make APUs tho.

That's if AMD HAD went and follow their previous release price trend for the original Ryzen 7 as PX4 9600, P2X6 1090T and FX-8150 were all within the US$250-300 price range, and get a bump in core count.

[hollyh88]

5 minutes ago, rcmaehl said:

 

Poor one out for Intel boys

if it was priced properly though.. i can get a 3700x for that price.. heck a 3800xt for 350 bucks which is a much better buy now then a 6 core 5600x for 300 bucks.. 

[porina]

1 hour ago, kewtz said:

Why not?

Missed this earlier. In short, I don't consider my Zen 2 system to be stable enough for something as important as gaming. I never got to the bottom of it after extensive testing and diagnosis including both reinstalls and swapping other hardware around. There is no pattern to it, sometimes it just decides it doesn't want to work any more. I suspect a contributing factor might be I'm using an X370 mobo with a 3700X. It would have been funny to put an RTX 3070 in it too...

[SFFDesigns]

Just now, hollyh88 said:

3700x

I got one for $270. The value here is worse than Zen 2 imo

[TOMPPIX]

Intel need to get their shit together, AMD is just gonna keep upping the prices. 

[Sakkura]

4 minutes ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

Performance uplift seems good, but price hikes are too high.

 

I can get a 10700K + Z490-F for $499 right now

10700K launched at almost the same price as the 5800X. And if they ever add a 5700X...

[AlwaysWong]

YES

 

3900x and 3950x prices will drop in the used market after this which make it a good deal for productivity and workstation users. 

[Energycore]

Very excited for benchmarks. Though I'm a bit disappointed that they increased the price of the 6-core part. That's the one I was eyeing. Maybe I go the 8 core part now

[Quinnell]

Single core performance looking real promising.  5900x and 5950x beat out the 10900k.  I'm hoping this means they will finally be superior in gaming performance than Intel.  Might be going Red team CPU next upgrade!!

[Elvara]

any idea when reviewer will be able to give us their benchmark?

[Blademaster91]

2 minutes ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

Performance uplift seems good, but price hikes are too high.

 

I can get a 10700K + Z490-F for $499 right now

I'm hoping the prices come down a bit after launch, I don't like the price increase but the gain in performance is quite large, AMD is pretty confident in their product to be raising prices.

And going with a 10700K you'd have to add another $100 for cooling.

[dizmo]

Hahaha, to all those people that constantly told me that AMD wouldn't dare raise prices....

 

Told you. You can expect the same with the GPU line; if their performance is close to Nvidia, they'll price it as such.

 

Am I the only one that found it odd that they said an average of 20-something% increase in gaming (I think almost 30), yet there were only a couple of titles that saw that much of an uplift? The rest of the newer titles seemed to hover a lot lower. At least it's better, though.

 

12 minutes ago, Sorenson said:

Seriously, that’s intel pricing. I’m just going to stick with my 3800x until they become reasonably priced.

I mean. What does one expect when they "take the performance crown"? They are a company, after all.

7 minutes ago, rcmaehl said:

 

Poor one out for Intel boys

I mean, at 1080p on DX11 titles, maybe. I'm waiting to see 1440p benchmarks, as well as a wider range of titles tested.

It'll be interesting to see how the 10600k compares to the 5600x.

[SFFDesigns]

Just now, Blademaster91 said:

And going with a 10700K you'd have to add another $100 for cooling.

That's true, but in order to get the most of a 5800X you'll probably want better cooling too.

[AndreiArgeanu]

3 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

if it was priced properly though.. i can get a 3700x for that price.. heck a 3800xt for 350 bucks which is a much better buy now then a 6 core 5600x for 300 bucks.. 

Not when it comes to gaming or single threaded tasks, in any way shape or form.

[Teddy07]

They seem pretty expensive

[Blademaster91]

1 minute ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

That's true, but in order to get the most of a 5800X you'll probably want better cooling too.

Yeah considering the TDP is higher, i'm wondering how sufficient the stock cooler is going to be, if AMD is even going to include one with their X cpu's.

[Gamer Schnitzel]

I find it disgusting how many people here are crying about price and you can see in their signatures that they have Zen 2 chips. You being too poor to upgrade every gen doesn't mean prices are too high.

Prices are completely fine.

[Sorenson]

Just now, dizmo said:

I mean. What does one expect when they "take the performance crown"? They are a company, after all.

I mean, at 1080p on DX11 titles, maybe. I'm waiting to see 1440p benchmarks, as well as a wider range of titles tested.

It'll be interesting to see how the 10600k compares to the 5600x.

"Performance crown" doesn't matter as much to me when the last generation will have almost 0 difference in gaming outside of 1080p. The biggest thing for AMD will be OEM integration as all the tech reviewers shove the 5950x into their "ultimate gaming pc" circle jerk setups. 

[Bombastinator]

1 minute ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

That's true, but in order to get the most of a 5800X you'll probably want better cooling too.

This could be correct.  Current AMD stock coolers are near or below 100w.  They’re going to need something bigger for 150w if they want people to use stock coolers on them.  They might have one though. 

[stewtrain]

1 minute ago, Blademaster91 said:

Yeah considering the TDP is higher, i'm wondering how sufficient the stock cooler is going to be, if AMD is even going to include one with their X cpu's.

according to their website a cooling solution is only present in the 5600x (much like the 3000XTs that only included with the lowest model).

 

link: https://www.amd.com/en/processors/ryzen

[rcmaehl]

3 minutes ago, Teddy07 said:

They seem pretty expensive

It's the same price as before plus $50. I'm amazed anyone has an issue with this increase for a significantly better CPU

[AndreiArgeanu]

fyi, the 5800X doesn't come with a thermal solution like the 3800X used to. However the 5600X, does, and hopefully so will the 5700X. Also below you can see the design of the CPU box.

[TOMPPIX]

Just now, rcmaehl said:

It's the same price as before plus $50. I'm amazed anyone has an issue with this increase for a significantly better CPU

In the USA it's gonna be more in Europe.

[SFFDesigns]

Just now, stewarjr said:

according to their website a cooling solution is only present in the 5600x (much like the 3000XTs that only included with the lowest model).

 

link: https://www.amd.com/en/processors/ryzen

Oh.

 

Honestly at this point a 10700K + mobo ($499 bundle deal on newegg) + cooler is a better deal