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PSU Tier List 4.0

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Posted · Original PosterOP

PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 10.2

welcome to the brand new PSU Tier List! Created and maintained by @Princess Luna, @DatTestBench, @Stefan Payne, @GreatMasterAden, @PSUGuru, @Juular and @LukeSavenije

 

Last Update: 28-02-2020

 

Tiering of various units is opinion based off reputable sources linked in a spoiler below the list.

Units may be bumped down due to the following methodology:

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Tier S must have OCP, OPP, SCP, OTP, UVP, OVP, inrush current limiting, well configured multirail, independent regulation, be Half-/Full bridge and meet c6/c7 crossloads. they exceed a+ requirements and stand out from the other tier units in build quality.

 

Tier A+ is required to have OCP, OPP, SCP, OTP, UVP, OVP, inrush current limiting, well configured multirail, independent regulation, be Half-/Full bridge and meet c6/c7 crossloads.

 

Tier A is required to have OPP, SCP, OTP, UVP, OVP, inrush current limiting, independent regulation, be Half-/Full bridge and meet c6/c7 crossloads.

 

Tier B+ is required to have OPP, SCP, OTP, UVP, OVP, inrush current limiting, independent regulation, be ACRF/Half-/Full bridge and meet c6/c7 crossloads.

 

Tier B is required to have OPP, SCP, UVP, OVP, inrush current limiting, independent regulation and meet c6/c7 crossloads.

 

Tier C+ is required to have OPP, SCP, UVP, OVP, inrush current limiting and meet c6/c7 crossloads.

 

Tier C falls slightly behind requirements, but has rather unrealistic scenarios where it'll fail in (3.3v/5v transients, overload ripple, failing fan controller and so on)

 

Tier D is everything that falls short of the other tier's requirements, but can only have a potential to be dangerous in certain situations.

 

Tier E has heavily malfunctioning protections or far outdated and is not recommended to use with any modern system.

Information about commonly mentioned terms:

Spoiler

Protections

Spoiler

 

Voltages

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12V rail

The most important rail in current PSUs, mostly used by the power hungry parts like the GPU and CPU, but also part of the motherboard and part of the molex connector.

 

5V rail

An important, but much less used rail, mostly used by storage and part of the GPU.

 

3.3V rail

A rail that gets less and less relevant, it provides power to the RAM (though this can be 12v as well these days), chipset and M.2 drives

Single- and Multirail

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Single rail

A single rail lets all the current of a voltage, in this case 12v go over a single trace or “rail” (see them as breakers in your house). This has the advantage of turning off less quickly, but does mean it allows full current to go through a single wire or connector, potentially melting or burning it before shutting down

 

Multi rail

Multi rail these days aren’t physical rails, rather they have multiple points where they measure the current (generally 2-8). it can shut down the psu earlier to protect itself, with a lower chance of burning through connectors and/or cables with a catastrophic failure.

 

http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?3990-Single-vs-Multiple-12V-rails-The-splitting-of-the-12V-rail

Regulations and Topologies

Spoiler

 

Digital parts

Spoiler

Digital Monitoring

Monitors current and reports it to software like NZXT CAM or Corsair iCue, generally using the OCP rail to measure.

 

Digital Circuit

Analog and digital circuits at the end have one goal: transmit data and process information into other forms(sound, light, etc). Digital circuits function on two fixed signal levels, 1s and 0s(binary). This allows for better control of switching frequencies under different loads and can achieve really high efficiency, but is also much more expensive to implement

Specifications

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ATX specification

A certification maintained by Intel that sets baselines for PSUs to meet.

 

c6/c7 crossloads

c6/c7 sleep states or “Haswell ready” connects to a sleep state used on Intel processors of 4th gen or newer. AMD has these sleep states too, but doesn’t specifically name them. most importantly it has to meet a crossload performance and that it has to be keepable to do a zero-load-power, that most group regulated units can’t meet, it’s highly recommended you pick something up for modern systems that meets this.

 

ATX 2.3: 

https://web.archive.org/web/20150114105013/http://www.formfactors.org/developer/specs/PSU_DG_rev_1_1.pdf

 

ATX 2.31: 

https://web.archive.org/web/20160414133738/http://www.formfactors.org/developer/specs/Power_Supply_Design_Guide_Desktop_Platform_Rev_1_2.pdf

 

ATX 2.4: 

https://web.archive.org/web/20170718011357/https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/guides/power-supply-design-guide.pdf

 

ATX 2.52: 

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/guides/power-supply-design-guide-june.pdf

 

ATX 12vo:

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/guides/single-rail-power-supply-platform-atx12vo-design-guide.pdf 

Other

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Ripple

Ripple is mostly the noise in DC not filtered out from the AC current. A high ripple can shorten part’s lifespan. Intel allows up to 120mV, but we prefer to keep it below 50.

 

Inrush current limiting

An inrush current limiter tries to limit inrush current, the instantaneous current electronic devices draw when turned on. This is normally done with a so called NTC Thermistor.

 

Italics = temporary/estimated position

Green = SFX(-L)/TFX

Purple = Multi-rail units with manual OCP trigger point control

Blue= Quiet operation - sub 25 dBa at 400w load for 550-650w units/500w load for 750-850w

Underline = PcPartPicker link (random wattages except noted otherwise)

 

Tier S - The best built units, generally come at a premium

 

Tier A+ - Recommended for 650w+ high end systems (HEDT, Multi-GPU)

 

Tier A - Recommended for <=650w high end systems

 

Tier B+ - Recommended for midrange systems

 

Tier B - Recommended for entry level gaming systems

 

Tier C+ - Recommended for entry level desktops, low profile HTPCs, Office desktops.

 

Tier C - Units that fall short from upper tiers due to issues (see notes)

Spoiler

Aerocool project 7: high fan controller failure

Antec Earthwatts Pro Gold: high overload ripple

Earthwatts Pro Platinum: high overload ripple

High Current Gamer Gold: high overload ripple

Neo Eco Gold: high overload ripple

High Current Gamer Extreme: high overload ripple

Cooler Master MWE V2: high low-load ripple, fix pending

EVGA G3: too high set OCP and OTP

G5 1000w: high 110% ripple

Enermax Revolution SFX: fan controller problems

FSP Dagger Pro: Wrongly configured +12V OCP and OPP

Seasonic Focus FM: high overload ripple
Seasonic Focus Plus FX: high overload ripple

Seasonic Focus Plus PX: high overload riiple

Silverstone SFX gold:

Strider Gold Evo: failed 3.3v

Gold Evolution: failed 3.3v

Strider Gold S: failed 3.3v

Superflower Leadex III 650w: Voltage drop to 11.4v in review

 

Tier D - Potentially dangerous, but only in specific situations

 

Tier E - Potentially dangerous in multiple scenarios

  • BR ONE BR-X
  • Chieftec Non-rated units
  • Corsair VS 2012
  • Cooler Master Elite - Realpower - B2
  • Diablotek All units
  • EVGA N1 - N2
  • L-C Power All units
  • Lepa Non-rated units
  • Linkworld All units
  • Logisys All units
  • MS-Tech All units
  • Raidmax Non-rated units
  • Rasurbo All units
  • Rhomburtech All units
  • Sempre All units
  • Speedlink All units
  • Tacens All units
  • Thermaltake Litepower
  • Trust All units
  • Ultron All units

Sources:

Spoiler

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PBO1JI_yMZfgupiWdkIi9228xJ0LMYzf/view?usp=sharing

Changelog:

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Rev 3.0 (8-11-19)

added revolt X

added hammer/hyper

added bh

added ion+

moved photon

added digital marks

updated on inrush current limiting

moved differences to notes

added information on terms

 

Rev 4.0 (10-11-19)

added pcpartpicker links to units

added prime/x fanless

removed notes because pcpartpicker shows the difference

added back colors because copying over didn't go 100% perfect

 

Rev 4.1 (12-11-19)

put hyper/hammer in italic position

added sources

 

Rev 5.0 (14-11-19)

added sheets for methodology

 

Rev 5.1 (22-11-19)

added some gigabyte units

added riotoro enigma bronze

 

Rev 5.2 (24-11-19)

added thermaltake smart m

added silentiumpc supremo l2

separated cx/cxm

added a couple links

 

Rev 6.0 (25-11-19)

added tier D+

added neo eco gold, high current gamer gold

 

Rev 6.1 (26-11-19)

split up GQ

fixed RM 2019 link

 

Rev 6.2 (2-12-19)

added phanteks amp

changed txm 2017 name

set position for focus 2019, based off amp review

 

Rev 6.4 (16-12-19)

added high current gamer extreme

added Gamdias Kratos

 

Rev 6.5 (21-12-19)

put all focus based units in estimated position

 

Rev 6.6 (27-12-19)

updated gigabyte apgm

temporary set dqst

added supremo m2

moved supremo l2

 

revision 6.7 (01-01-2020)

temporary set all cwt gps units except formula

removed link on g1

 

revision 6.8 (03-01-2020)

moved all cwt gps units except formula down due to lack of otp

 

revision 6.9 (07-01-2020)

moved Riotoro Enigma G2

added some links

moved g5

 

revision 6.10 (13-01-2020)

added enermax maxtytan

 

revision 7.0 (19-01-2020)

added BR

added tier D+ notes

added source to APGM

 

revision 7.1 (21-01-2020)

moved ROG Strix

moved project 7

 

revision 7.2 (29-01-2020)

split up m12ii platforms

changed name on hyper m85

 

revision 7.3 (31-01-2020)

fixed Pro Black FM

 

revision 8.0 (06-02-2020)

fixed seasonic focus PX

added XPG Core Reactor

updated some thermaltake links

updated tier description 

 

revision 8.1 (11-02-2020)

moved MWE v2

 

revision 9.0 (12-02-2020)

added noise ratings, with more to come in the future

changed digital to manual multirail OCP

 

revision 9.1 (13-02-2020)
added more noise ratings

 

revision 9.2 (14-02-2020)

added more noise ratings

added Straight power 11 Platinum

added reactor

 

revision 9.3 (18-02-2020)

changed methodology around ocp for tier a

removed loud units colour

changes on extra info

added gx1

 

revision 10.0 (19-02-2020)

changed sources spoiler for spreadsheet

moved notes below tier

 

revision 10.1 (20-02-2020)

added g2l

added platinum king

moved golden green

added silencer mk iii

moved capstone

moved gamdias units

 

revision 10.2 (26-02-2020)

added powerspec psus

 

revision 10.3 (28-02-2020)

added corsair CV

added system power u9/b9

C-series permanent position

Legacy list:

Spoiler

 

PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//PSU Protections

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

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PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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Build Logs: Cotton Candy Threads | Lucid Visions | Matte Machine (4U Rackmount) | Noc Noc | NUC | Storage Log

 

Cotton Candy Threads - CPU AMD Threadripper 2950X | GPU EVGA FTW3 RTX 2080 Ti | MOBO Asus ROG Zenith Extreme | MEMORY 128GB (8x 16GB) Corsair Vengeance RGB 3200 | STORAGE 3x Samsung 960 Evo SSD + 4x Crucial P1 1TB + 2x Seagate Ironwolf 8TB 7.2k HDDs | PSU Corsair HX1200i w/ Cablemod Pro Extensions | COOLING Cooler Master TR4 ML360 | CASE Lian Li O11 Dynamic Black | LIGHTING 9x Corsair HD120 Fans, 4x Corsair Addressable RGB Strips, 2x Corsair Commander Pro | PCPP
 
LUCID VISIONS - CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3950X | GPU PowerColor 5700XT Liquid Devil | MOBO Crosshair VII Hero | MEMORY 64GB (4x 16GB) Trident-Z Neo @ 3733 | STORAGE Samsung 960 Pro SSD | PSU Corsair RM1000i | COOLING EKWB Custom Loop | CASE Define S2 Vision | LIGHTING 4x Fractal Prisma AL-14 Fans, Built-in RGB Strip | PCPP
 
Just NCASE mITX - CPU Intel Core i7 8700K @ 5.2GHz | GPU EVGA RTX 2080 Ti XC | MOBO Asus Z370-I Gaming | MEMORY 16GB (2x 8GB) G.Skill Triden-Z RGB 3000 | STORAGE Samsung 960 Evo 500GB SSD + Corsair MX500 1TB M.2 SSD | PSU Corsair SF600 | COOLING Noctua NH-U9S w/ Redux Push/Pull Fans | CASE NCase M1v5 | LIGHTING 2x Cablemod Addressable RGB Strips | PCPP
 
Noc Noc, Who's There? - CPU AMD Threadripper 1950X | GPU ASUS RTX 2080 Ti OC | MOBO ASRock X399M Taichi | MEMORY 32GB (4x 8GB) GSkill Trident-Z 3200 | STORAGE Samsung 970 Evo SSD | PSU Corsair HX1000i w/ Cablemod Pro B&W Kit | COOLING Noctua U9 TR4 w/ 2x Redux 92mm | CASE Corsair 280X White | FANS 6x Noctua 140mm Redux | PCPP
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Just now, emosun said:

Does the list only contain products currently sold brand new? as I don't see my psu in it

sorry, we don't do hamsters in this list

 

seriously though, what model?

PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//PSU Protections

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

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PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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I'll count the number of haters this time

 

actually that'd take too long considering SOME PEOPLE don't give feedback on how to improve it

Don't forget to use the "Quote" feature or mention me ( @Gegger) if you want me to see your reply!

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@LukeSavenije there was some unhappiness with the fact that there are so many tier list versions on our forum, can you add a disclaimer that the 3,0 would have been updated into this anyway if lienus still maintained it? (this is a bit of a 3.5)

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I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Kill Trident Z RGB - Force MP500 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - The venerated Hyper 212 Evo (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - Black and green theme, Razer branwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - Dark moded Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

EVGA G3 thread, Seasonic Focus thread, Userbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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@Den-Fi Hey hey, this time there was a reason to though, @LienusLateTips has informed he will not longer be available to manage the OP on the current Tier List and therefore asked someone else to take it forward on a new thread.

 

We have also tried to update the list and decided to keep it simple and straight forwards just for people to have a quick reference to check, as always anyone looking to purchase a brand new PSU is always advised to make their own proper individual threads for the best assistance possible from our community.

 

Cheers :3

Workstation Rig:
CPU:  Intel Core i9 9900K @5.0ghz  |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 |~|  MOBO: Asus Z390M ROG Maximus XI GENE |~| RAM: 32gb 3333mhz CL15 G.Skill Trident Z RGB |~| GPU: nVidia TITAN V  |~| PSU: beQuiet! Dark Power Pro 11 80Plus Platinum  |~| Boot: Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2X4TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Iron Wolf + 2X2TB SSD SanDisk Ultra |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Acer Predator X34 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
 
Personal Use Rig:
CPU: Intel Core i9 9900 @4.75ghz |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Shadow Rock Slim |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z390M Gaming mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3400mhzCL15 Viper Steel |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition RTX 2080 Ti |~| PSU: beQuiet! Straight Power 11 80Plus Gold  |~|  Boot:  Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2x2TB SanDisk SSD Ultra 3D |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Viotek GN34CB 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.


HTPC / "Console of the house":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
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1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

@Den-Fi Hey hey, this time there was a reason to though, @LienusLateTips has informed he will not longer be available to manage the OP on the current Tier List and therefore asked someone else to take it forward on a new thread.

 

We have also tried to update the list and decided to keep it simple and straight forwards just for people to have a quick reference check, as always anyone looking to purchase a brand new PSU is always advised to make their own proper individual threads for the best assistance possible from our community.

 

Cheers :3

Makes sense.

Would love to see an effort made to cite where this information is sourced.

Methodology and sources are the backbone of lists like this. It would go a long way to keep this list strong and relevant as it ages.

Build Logs: Cotton Candy Threads | Lucid Visions | Matte Machine (4U Rackmount) | Noc Noc | NUC | Storage Log

 

Cotton Candy Threads - CPU AMD Threadripper 2950X | GPU EVGA FTW3 RTX 2080 Ti | MOBO Asus ROG Zenith Extreme | MEMORY 128GB (8x 16GB) Corsair Vengeance RGB 3200 | STORAGE 3x Samsung 960 Evo SSD + 4x Crucial P1 1TB + 2x Seagate Ironwolf 8TB 7.2k HDDs | PSU Corsair HX1200i w/ Cablemod Pro Extensions | COOLING Cooler Master TR4 ML360 | CASE Lian Li O11 Dynamic Black | LIGHTING 9x Corsair HD120 Fans, 4x Corsair Addressable RGB Strips, 2x Corsair Commander Pro | PCPP
 
LUCID VISIONS - CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3950X | GPU PowerColor 5700XT Liquid Devil | MOBO Crosshair VII Hero | MEMORY 64GB (4x 16GB) Trident-Z Neo @ 3733 | STORAGE Samsung 960 Pro SSD | PSU Corsair RM1000i | COOLING EKWB Custom Loop | CASE Define S2 Vision | LIGHTING 4x Fractal Prisma AL-14 Fans, Built-in RGB Strip | PCPP
 
Just NCASE mITX - CPU Intel Core i7 8700K @ 5.2GHz | GPU EVGA RTX 2080 Ti XC | MOBO Asus Z370-I Gaming | MEMORY 16GB (2x 8GB) G.Skill Triden-Z RGB 3000 | STORAGE Samsung 960 Evo 500GB SSD + Corsair MX500 1TB M.2 SSD | PSU Corsair SF600 | COOLING Noctua NH-U9S w/ Redux Push/Pull Fans | CASE NCase M1v5 | LIGHTING 2x Cablemod Addressable RGB Strips | PCPP
 
Noc Noc, Who's There? - CPU AMD Threadripper 1950X | GPU ASUS RTX 2080 Ti OC | MOBO ASRock X399M Taichi | MEMORY 32GB (4x 8GB) GSkill Trident-Z 3200 | STORAGE Samsung 970 Evo SSD | PSU Corsair HX1000i w/ Cablemod Pro B&W Kit | COOLING Noctua U9 TR4 w/ 2x Redux 92mm | CASE Corsair 280X White | FANS 6x Noctua 140mm Redux | PCPP
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7 minutes ago, Den-Fi said:

Would love to see an effort made to cite where this information is sourced.

I'll soon be working on that, give me a while

 

methodology is in the spoiler above

PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//PSU Protections

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

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PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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Is it just spam at this point ? lol

Still no sources

I don't get what's the difference between the last one other than the post is newer & higher amongst the posts in the section 

 

 

You know.. the point of revisions is to keep the last update up as long as possible, updating it as things come out / you add sources.

 

Just dumping the same info in another post with none of the suggested improvement brings nothing to the table

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2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

I'll soon be working on that, give me a while

 

methodology is in the spoiler above

It should have been a top priority as the list was published. Just as you’ve all put lots of work into this, so did your sources. I won’t dwell on it any further as I’m sure you will do it, but I hope this happens soon for the sake and credibility of this project. 

Build Logs: Cotton Candy Threads | Lucid Visions | Matte Machine (4U Rackmount) | Noc Noc | NUC | Storage Log

 

Cotton Candy Threads - CPU AMD Threadripper 2950X | GPU EVGA FTW3 RTX 2080 Ti | MOBO Asus ROG Zenith Extreme | MEMORY 128GB (8x 16GB) Corsair Vengeance RGB 3200 | STORAGE 3x Samsung 960 Evo SSD + 4x Crucial P1 1TB + 2x Seagate Ironwolf 8TB 7.2k HDDs | PSU Corsair HX1200i w/ Cablemod Pro Extensions | COOLING Cooler Master TR4 ML360 | CASE Lian Li O11 Dynamic Black | LIGHTING 9x Corsair HD120 Fans, 4x Corsair Addressable RGB Strips, 2x Corsair Commander Pro | PCPP
 
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18 minutes ago, Den-Fi said:

It should have been a top priority as the list was published. Just as you’ve all put lots of work into this, so did your sources. I won’t dwell on it any further as I’m sure you will do it, but I hope this happens soon for the sake and credibility of this project. 

When I brought this up internally, quite a while ago, the response was that it was too much work, and that he was busy. One of the several reasons I decided to get less involved, and eventually leave. And that has pretty much been his response to pretty much everyone for quite some time. 

 

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I think the hoomans put their builds here?

Why do you hoomans give your builds a name? Here's my build, which I shall call "Do as I Say, Not As I Do" (seriously, don't get this build)

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Ryzen 1500X @3,925 GHz

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo + 2x ML120

MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic

2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 MHz CL15 (Micron B-die) @2933 MHz

Sapphire Radeon R9 280 Dual-X @1120 MHz / 1450 MHz

120GB 850 Evo

120GB Kingston SSD

500GB WD Blue

Cooler Master Elite 430

Seasonic Prime Titanium 650W

Logitech G710 with Kailh Box Jade

Logitech G502

HyperX Cloud

And my laptop, which I shall call "If It's Stupid But It Works" (It can actually play CS:GO at 50 FPS, and Civ V at 25 FPS)

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Lenovo Thinkpad L460

Intel Core i3 6100U

4GB (probably) DDR4 2133 MHz

Intel HD Graphics 520 0.3-1.0 GHz

128GB Samsung MZ7LF128HCHP

Corsair M65 Pro RGB (worst mouse I've ever had)

Sennheiser CX 5.00G

And here would be where I would put a picture of my cat. But apparently, images are not allowed here. So take this instead (*ΦωΦ*)

Hello fellow night theme users

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28 minutes ago, givingtnt said:

Is it just spam at this point ? lol

Still no sources

I don't get what's the difference between the last one other than the post is newer & higher amongst the posts in the section 

 

 

You know.. the point of revisions is to keep the last update up as long as possible, updating it as things come out / you add sources.

 

Just dumping the same info in another post with none of the suggested improvement brings nothing to the table

As stated in the "best answer" post at the very top, the OP of the last list stepped down from keeping the list updated. This required changing hands to someone else who was willing to keep it updated.

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@seon123 @Den-Fi @givingtnt i got a small update for you, with some sources gathered from internal talk and a bit of help

PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//PSU Protections

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

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PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

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DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

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22 minutes ago, MEC-777 said:

As stated in the "best answer" post at the very top, the OP of the last list stepped down from keeping the list updated. This required changing hands to someone else who was willing to keep it updated.

Ah.

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1 minute ago, MrFixitBlankFace said:

I haven’t ever checked one of these lists out.

What have I been missing?!

psu talk, complaints and a list of psus

 

that's pretty much the last years summed up in a tldr

PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//PSU Protections

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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

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PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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I'd change the Tier D - Not Recommended to some different wording.  Some people may read it as "Trash, avoid them" and they'll go for some local no-name crap instead which will be even worse.

There's quite a few solid power supplies in that Tier D category, which could be considered "high end" in some regions where there's not much selection or options to buy online.

 

It would make more sense to have the list as an excel/google docs sheet because it would allow for some comments columns

 

I'd add a comment to psus that are rated for less than 40c ambient temperature ex EVGA N1 being rated 400w @ 25c or older Corsair VS rated for 30c (current models are 40c)

I'd also consider warranty - for example should be noted any psu that has less than 5 years warranty if it's in tier B... there's power supplies with 5y or more years warranty in Tier C

 

The list should use a better font, maybe something sans-serif, makes it more readable.

Even using source code snippets would make it more readable, here's an example :

  

Aerocool	Project 7
Asus		ROG Thor
BeQuiet		SFX-L
Cooler Master	V Semi-Modular, Masterwatt Maker MiJ, V-Gold 2013/2018, V-platinum 2013
Corsair		RMx, AX 2013, RM 2019, HX Gold 750w+, TXm Gold, Vengeance Silver, SF, AX 2018
Cougar		GX-F Aurum, GX-F
Enermax		RG, GX
EVGA		PS, G/P/T2
Enermax		Platimax
FSP		Aurum PT/Xilencer/Pro, Hydro G/X/PT/PTM, Dagger SFX
Gamdias		Astrape P1
Kolink		Continuum
Mistel		MX
NZXT		E
Rosewill	Capstone, Lightning, Silent Night, Photon
Sama		Armor Gold/Platinum, Forza Titanium
Seasonic	Focus GX/GM/PX, Prime, X/XP2/XP3, Snow Silent
Super Flower	Golden Green, Leadex I/II/III
Thermaltake	Toughpower Grand Gold/Platinum, iRGB Plus, DPS Gold
XFX		Pro Black Edition Limited, XTS 1000w, Pro Black FM 750w+

 

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1 minute ago, mariushm said:

I'd change the Tier D - Not Recommended to some different wording.  Some people may read it as "Trash, avoid them" and they'll go for some local no-name crap instead which will be even worse.

any suggestions on that? the tier d's are for a reason not recommended to use, but not straight up bombs like tier e (kinda) is

 

2 minutes ago, mariushm said:

I'd also consider warranty - for example should be noted any psu that has less than 5 years warranty if it's in tier B... there's power supplies with 5y or more years warranty in Tier C

this would for one make things pretty complicated, as not all warranties are the same everywhere, both in policy and even duration for some locations. and to name an example: if you smoke in the living room, a psu warranty can sometimes be worthless already

 

the other things i can't give any comments on as of right now

PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//PSU Protections

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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

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PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, OlympicAssEater said:

WHERE IS EVGA G2?!

tier a?

PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//PSU Protections

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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

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PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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Let's get some server PSU's in here. Where's my Zippy's at? :D

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
19 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

Let's get some server PSU's in here. Where's my Zippy's at? :D

those fsp's? i could find so little about them, maybe a couple internal shots at best

PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//PSU Protections

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

Spoiler

PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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