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50 minutes ago, PeterPaul said:

Hello Everyone! What is your opinion about the new Be Quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850W PSU?

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/bequiet_pure_power_12_m_850w_atx30_psu_review,8.html

 

The new 13 is more interesting to me.

Not cheap, but not insanely over-priced for a TIT rated high end.

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/1HU-004H-000R9?Item=9SIA68VJJ74536

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6 hours ago, mdk777 said:

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/bequiet_pure_power_12_m_850w_atx30_psu_review,8.html

 

The new 13 is more interesting to me.

Not cheap, but not insanely over-priced for a TIT rated high end.

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/1HU-004H-000R9?Item=9SIA68VJJ74536

That's the Dark Power 13. That's two product tiers above the Pure Power (with the Straight Power in between). Not sure why you'd even bring it up

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9 hours ago, seon123 said:

That's the Dark Power 13. That's two product tiers above the Pure Power (with the Straight Power in between). Not sure why you'd even bring it up

because i listed a review for what i thought he was looking at.

It indicated that it was OK....

I mentioned the better level for what i saw as a good price to performance delta.

thought it was pretty clear. 

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Any Dark Power 13 1000w owners out there with no fan problems? I wanted to order this power supply, but after everything I read, I had doubts.

Also on the cultists site I read the following about the Dark Power 13 1000w: "Non-functioning multi-rail OCP essentially making it a single-rail PSU". Does this mean the "Overclocking key" switch is not working?

As an alternative, I'm looking at the Cooler Master MWE Gold 1250 V2 ATX 3.0. There are almost no reviews about it. Is it worth buying?

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  • 5 weeks later...

Is the Seasonic Vertex GX series good. Or is it a avoid or is it just okay. Could not really find anything about it.

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In Tier A, low priority units, Aerocool Project 7 is not a PSU, it's a computer case.

PC #1 : Gigabyte Z170XP-SLI | i7-7700 | Cryorig C7 Cu | 32GB DDR4-2400 | LSI SAS 9211-8i | 240GB NVMe M.2 PCIe PNY CS2030 | SSD&HDDs 59.5TB total | Quantum LTO5 HH SAS drive | GC-Alpine Ridge | Corsair HX750i | Cooler Master Stacker STC-T01 | ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ 2560x1440 @ 60 Hz (plugged HDMI port, shared with PC #2) | Win10
PC #2 : Gigabyte MW70-3S0 | 2x E5-2689 v4 | 2x Intel BXSTS200C | 32GB DDR4-2400 ECC Reg | MSI RTX 3080 Ti Suprim X | 2x 1TB SSD SATA Samsung 870 EVO | Corsair AX1600i | Lian Li PC-A77 | ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ 2560x1440 @ 144 Hz (plugged DP port, shared with PC #1) | Win10
PC #3 : Mini PC Zotac 4K | Celeron N3150 | 8GB DDR3L 1600 | 250GB M.2 SATA WD Blue | Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro USB | Samsung Blu-ray writer USB | Genius SP-HF1800A | TV Panasonic TX-40DX600E UltraHD | Win10
PC #4 : ASUS P2B-F | PIII 500MHz | 512MB SDR 100 | Leadtek WinFast GeForce 256 SDR 32MB | 2x Guillemot Maxi Gamer 3D² 8MB in SLI | Creative Sound Blaster AWE64 ISA | 80GB HDD UATA | Fortron/Source FSP235-60GI | Zalman R1 | DELL E151FP 15" TFT 1024x768 | Win98SE

Laptop : Lenovo ThinkPad T460p | i7-6700HQ | 16GB DDR4 2133 | GeForce 940MX | 240GB SSD PNY CS900 | 14" IPS 1920x1080 | Win11

PC tablet : Fujitsu Point 1600 | PMMX 166MHz | 160MB EDO | 20GB HDD UATA | external floppy drive | 10.4" DSTN 800x600 touchscreen | AGFA SnapScan 1212u blue | Win98SE

Laptop collection #1 : IBM ThinkPad 340CSE | 486SLC2 66MHz | 12MB RAM | 360MB IDE | internal floppy drive | 10.4" DSTN 640x480 256 color | Win3.1 with MS-DOS 6.22

Laptop collection #2 : IBM ThinkPad 380E | PMMX 150MHz | 80MB EDO | NeoMagic MagicGraph128XD | 2.1GB IDE | internal floppy drive | internal CD-ROM drive | Intel PRO/100 Mobile PCMCIA | 12.1" FRSTN 800x600 16-bit color | Win98

Laptop collection #3 : Toshiba T2130CS | 486DX4 75MHz | 32MB EDO | 520MB IDE | internal floppy drive | 10.4" STN 640x480 256 color | Win3.1 with MS-DOS 6.22

And 6 others computers (Intel Compute Stick x5-Z8330, Giada Slim N10 WinXP, 2 Apple classic and 2 PC pocket WinCE)

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12 hours ago, seon123 said:

Yep, you can definitely fit a motherboard inside that

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/aerocool-acp-650fp7/

Oh, when I made a research on Google, I get results that say Aerocool Project 7 as a computer case without PSU (in France).

PC #1 : Gigabyte Z170XP-SLI | i7-7700 | Cryorig C7 Cu | 32GB DDR4-2400 | LSI SAS 9211-8i | 240GB NVMe M.2 PCIe PNY CS2030 | SSD&HDDs 59.5TB total | Quantum LTO5 HH SAS drive | GC-Alpine Ridge | Corsair HX750i | Cooler Master Stacker STC-T01 | ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ 2560x1440 @ 60 Hz (plugged HDMI port, shared with PC #2) | Win10
PC #2 : Gigabyte MW70-3S0 | 2x E5-2689 v4 | 2x Intel BXSTS200C | 32GB DDR4-2400 ECC Reg | MSI RTX 3080 Ti Suprim X | 2x 1TB SSD SATA Samsung 870 EVO | Corsair AX1600i | Lian Li PC-A77 | ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ 2560x1440 @ 144 Hz (plugged DP port, shared with PC #1) | Win10
PC #3 : Mini PC Zotac 4K | Celeron N3150 | 8GB DDR3L 1600 | 250GB M.2 SATA WD Blue | Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro USB | Samsung Blu-ray writer USB | Genius SP-HF1800A | TV Panasonic TX-40DX600E UltraHD | Win10
PC #4 : ASUS P2B-F | PIII 500MHz | 512MB SDR 100 | Leadtek WinFast GeForce 256 SDR 32MB | 2x Guillemot Maxi Gamer 3D² 8MB in SLI | Creative Sound Blaster AWE64 ISA | 80GB HDD UATA | Fortron/Source FSP235-60GI | Zalman R1 | DELL E151FP 15" TFT 1024x768 | Win98SE

Laptop : Lenovo ThinkPad T460p | i7-6700HQ | 16GB DDR4 2133 | GeForce 940MX | 240GB SSD PNY CS900 | 14" IPS 1920x1080 | Win11

PC tablet : Fujitsu Point 1600 | PMMX 166MHz | 160MB EDO | 20GB HDD UATA | external floppy drive | 10.4" DSTN 800x600 touchscreen | AGFA SnapScan 1212u blue | Win98SE

Laptop collection #1 : IBM ThinkPad 340CSE | 486SLC2 66MHz | 12MB RAM | 360MB IDE | internal floppy drive | 10.4" DSTN 640x480 256 color | Win3.1 with MS-DOS 6.22

Laptop collection #2 : IBM ThinkPad 380E | PMMX 150MHz | 80MB EDO | NeoMagic MagicGraph128XD | 2.1GB IDE | internal floppy drive | internal CD-ROM drive | Intel PRO/100 Mobile PCMCIA | 12.1" FRSTN 800x600 16-bit color | Win98

Laptop collection #3 : Toshiba T2130CS | 486DX4 75MHz | 32MB EDO | 520MB IDE | internal floppy drive | 10.4" STN 640x480 256 color | Win3.1 with MS-DOS 6.22

And 6 others computers (Intel Compute Stick x5-Z8330, Giada Slim N10 WinXP, 2 Apple classic and 2 PC pocket WinCE)

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I did see quite a bit of the same brand "Enermax" but i couldnt find where the enermax revolution87+ 1000w psu stacks up. is it under the revolution category all together?

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Is the Montech Titan Gold 850w good? I am considering switching from the Corsair HX1200 to the new Montech.

Gaming-PC: AMD 7700X | ASUS RTX 4070 Ti | ASUS ROG Strix X670E-E Gaming WIFI | G-Skill RGB 32GB, DDR5-6000 | Corsair HX1200 | Fractal Torrent Compact |
Internet: Magenta | Fritz!Box 6660 Cable | 1028 Mbit/s / 53 Mbit/s |

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7 minutes ago, Schrotty said:

Is the Montech Titan Gold 850w good? I am considering switching from the Corsair HX1200 to the new Montech.

I think they have moved their "base of operations" to https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

And there it seems Montech Titan is a-tier.

I edit my posts more often than not

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I have seen, but they don't have a Community.

Gaming-PC: AMD 7700X | ASUS RTX 4070 Ti | ASUS ROG Strix X670E-E Gaming WIFI | G-Skill RGB 32GB, DDR5-6000 | Corsair HX1200 | Fractal Torrent Compact |
Internet: Magenta | Fritz!Box 6660 Cable | 1028 Mbit/s / 53 Mbit/s |

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5 hours ago, Schrotty said:

I have seen, but they don't have a Community.

Well there is a link to Discord channel, not sure what goes on there though.

 

I edit my posts more often than not

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22 hours ago, WiteRookie said:

I did see quite a bit of the same brand "Enermax" but i couldnt find where the enermax revolution87+ 1000w psu stacks up. is it under the revolution category all together?

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It's a decade old unit. It's not on the Tierlist anymore.

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On 5/4/2023 at 7:09 PM, --SID-- said:

It's a decade old unit. It's not on the Tierlist anymore.

ok, i do see that now,Im glad I didnt buy one now lol

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On 5/4/2023 at 4:25 PM, Tan3l6 said:

Well there is a link to Discord channel, not sure what goes on there though.

 

pretty decent place. You get help if yo uask basically.

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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the rm1000e listed in the 3.0 atx psus looks like a normal psu with an adapter and pci 5.0 slapped label slapped on the box lol

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2 hours ago, Azure owo said:

the rm1000e listed in the 3.0 atx psus looks like a normal psu with an adapter and pci 5.0 slapped label slapped on the box lol

Are you that confused by the difference between ATX 3.0 and 12VHPWR?

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  • 4 weeks later...

Hey guys, hope everyone is doing well!

 

I just wanna bring attention to Seasonic and the current state of their PRIME line - spoiler alert, a ton of lemons.

 

I just spent 3 days talking to their support, who are literally tried to gaslight me into thinking that everything is fine.

 

3 major issues with SSR-750GD2:

 

- fan ticking noise, all the units in the PRIME have the same shitty fan 135mm, there are only a handful on replacement fans and it voids warratny

- coil while, Seasonic cheaped out on the filtering caps, this thing screams to the high heaves and it's not just one tone, its a symphony that can be hear in the next room

- trash tier cables, I disassembled my PC to do spring cleaning, after just a single reconnection the cables lost clamping force and voltage cropped  (11.4v 4.5v on rails, yes shit is crashing!)

 

Also the accessories - trash! Every single ziptie cracked and disintegrated in my pc case, causing a mess.

 

Now the fun part, their support literally mocking me and telling me that they wont give me a different unit (I asked for same capacity, not even an upgrade).  I was denied and told to just use this one.

 

I'm an IT manager myself, running a helpdesk dept - this was by far the worst RMA experience in the last 10 years, from any brand.

 

 

SSR-750GD2 - this is NOT a A tier unit, this a C grade at best.

 

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Interesting to see the (for me) Ye Olde Faithful Aerocool Integrator relegated so low on the list. I can only speak for myself here of course, others may have bad experiences.

 

I have built a good many pcs using this as my base, typically 500w or 600w depending on the build. Mostly mid range Ryzens with mid range or older higher end graphics. A typical build from memory was  Ryzen 7 2700X, 16Gb DDR4, 500gb M.2, RX6700 (non XT). Think that one had an aerocool Integrator 600.

 

I would say I have had maybe 10 or more Integrators over the years, no reported failures to date. When I sell a PC I put a life time `bring it back if it breaks and I will fix it` provision on them. I dont sell PCs to make money, I just cover my costs and maybe £25 bonus for building. No I build because i really enjoy building pcs. I purchased Integrators due to (for me) no frills reliability and to keep the costs down.

 

In my house there are 5 gaming pcs built by me, I think three of those have either Integrators or the very similar Toro PSUs.

 

This reply is not intended the flame the list writer - my hat off to you sir for the work put in to create this list and to place your head above the parapet in doing so. Keep up the good work! Im just sharing my experiences with a PSU thats fairly low on your list.

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12 minutes ago, Desktopstu said:

Interesting to see the (for me) Ye Olde Faithful Aerocool Integrator relegated so low on the list.

There are reasons it's that low listed. First the topology of the unit. Group regulated can be Tier D at best. Terrible voltage regulation, bad protection features and some other reasons makes it lower listed than D.

The authors started their own website. https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ for the most recent list.

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