AMD Threadripper confirmed to have 4 actual Zepplin dies.

[S w a t s o n]

So it appears that der8auer has just confirmed that the 2 extra "dummy dies" in Threadripper are not in fact just silicon spacers but disabled or at least non-functional Zeppelin dies that do contain transistors.

 

 

Personally, this didn't surprise me as this was my theory all along. Silicon and packaging aren't free and even though Zepplin die yield is supposed to be 80%+ it would still make sense to use real dies even if you have to disable working ones.

 

This also supports my theory that we might see a 32 core Threadripper down the line, I assume this will be slowly rolled out to compete with Intel's HCC/XCC core i9 chips.

[Ashiella]

Dang 32c 64t, who needs intel

[GatioH]

So isn’t threadripper just EYPC with 2 dummy dies?

[pas008]

Wonder if these Will Be unlockable like many have speculated before

 

Didn't watch vid though

[emosun]

5 minutes ago, Ashiella said:

Dang 32c 64t, who needs intel

anyone who want their quad socket board that double threadrippers speeds I suppose.

[Agosto]

Two of them look like "incomplete", like the last passages of chip making weren't completed

[mrthuvi]

German and their kinky torture porn....

[The Benjamins]

12 minutes ago, Swatson said:

So it appears that der8auer has just confirmed that the 2 extra "dummy dies" in Threadripper are not in fact just silicon spacers but disabled or at least non-functional Zeppelin dies that do contain transistors.

 

 

Personally, this didn't surprise me as this was my theory all along. Silicon and packaging aren't free and even though Zepplin die yield is supposed to be 80%+ it would still make sense to use real dies even if you have to disable working ones.

 

This also supports my theory that we might see a 32 core Threadripper down the line, I assume this will be slowly rolled out to compete with Intel's HCC/XCC core i9 chips.

 

6 minutes ago, Ashiella said:

Dang 32c 64t, who needs intel

32c will not happen.

AMD will not, should not sell a CPU with half it's cores with out a directly attached memory controller. It would be shooting them selves in the foot.

[mynameisjuan]

1 minute ago, pas008 said:

Wonder if these Will Be unlockable like many have speculated before

I doubt it. They most likely damage the dies to make them unusable. The ability to enable them in any way would prove dangerous to AMD's profits if someone did figure out how to

[pas008]

Just now, mynameisjuan said:

I doubt it. They most likely damage the dies to make them unusable. The ability to enable them in any way would prove dangerous to AMD's profits if someone did figure out how to

Didn't watch video and that's nonsense

Many amd products have been unlockable

[mynameisjuan]

2 minutes ago, pas008 said:

Didn't watch video and that's nonsense

Many amd products have been unlockable

No I didnt because I cant right now. But thats not non-sense since other chip makes will kill the extra dies and/or cores. Its more non-sense that you think you can just unlocked the dies and have an instant $500 Epic chip. 

[pas008]

15 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

No I didnt because I cant right now. But thats not non-sense since other chip makes will kill the extra dies and/or cores. Its more non-sense that you think you can just unlocked the dies and have an instant $500 Epic chip. 

Considering they said yields were great

And cheaper to make tr and epyc in one single design and make the socket disable half in not saying anything just it could be a possibility

And unlocking wasn't always guaranteed to have great results

Think it was pII 550 into pII into quad

Double the cores lol

[Dylanc1500]

8 minutes ago, emosun said:

anyone who want their quad socket board that double threadrippers speeds I suppose.

Or octo-socket cause who doesn't want 224 cores running at 3.2ghz and 18,432Gb of ram in one system.

[emosun]

3 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

And at over double the price I suppose

Yeah people buying quad socket boards aren't broke so cost isn't a consideration. A mere tax deductible business expense.

[emosun]

2 minutes ago, huilun02 said:

And this product on topic that could potentially have 32 cores is Threadripper instead of Epyc. X399 that has mobos made for consumers. Consumers take cost into consideration. Or are you just another AMD hater trying to make their products look bad by comparing with stuff that costs wayy more?

you should like , read the whole thread instead of skimming it

[Falconevo]

Very interesting video, it was to be expected however as AMD has a history of this in the past.

 

Maybe people can figure out how to unlock the additional 16 cores on the CPU if they are functional and not just ones which are failed.  I would imagine work to that end has already started based on the information in this video.

[Coaxialgamer]

Just now, Falconevo said:

Very interesting video, it was to be expected however as AMD has a history of this in the past.

 

Maybe people can figure out how to unlock the additional 16 cores on the CPU if they are functional and not just ones which are failed.  I would imagine work to that end has already started based on the information in this video.

AMD has learned since k10 . It's unlikely that amd didn't laser off some sections . 

[TheCherryKing]

34 minutes ago, emosun said:

anyone who want their quad socket board that double threadrippers speeds I suppose.

AMD is no longer supporting processors with more than a 2-Way configuration. 

[emosun]

2 minutes ago, TheCherryKing said:

AMD is no longer supporting processors with more than a 2-Way configuration. 

um , neato?

[TheCherryKing]

1 hour ago, emosun said:

um , neato?

What?

[TheRandomness]

1 hour ago, Dylanc1500 said:

Or octo-socket cause who doesn't want 224 cores running at 3.2ghz and 18,432Gb of ram in one system.

Or you know, buy a Xeon Phi and get 64 cores and 256 threads at 1.2GHz with LGA 3647.

[AnonymousGuy]

1 hour ago, Coaxialgamer said:

AMD has learned since k10 . It's unlikely that amd didn't laser off some sections . 

Pedantic, but you don't laser cut silicon anymore, you just fuse off whatever features you don't want enabled.

[WMGroomAK]

Just looking at the numbers, considering that the Zen die yields are over 80% and that Threadripper supposedly is binned from the top 5% of the yield, the other dies on the set are probably from the failed 20% in production...  AMD recycling program.

[TorqueS]

Haven't this been known for a while?

From what I recall, I watched der8auer's video and I believe the 2 dummy dies have no circuitry in them. They're there so that the surface area of the IHS is uniform.

 

[TheCherryKing]

1 hour ago, TheRandomness said:

Or you know, buy a Xeon Phi and get 64 cores and 256 threads at 1.2GHz with LGA 3647.

Xeon Phi processors are not scalable.