No, flying cars are not airplanes

[_princess_]

Lets break it down to the basic truths.

 

 

Flying cars are not airplanes.

 

Flying cars are not airplanes.

 

Flying cars are not airplanes.

 

Airplanes have low level of mobility and are generally suited for long distance travel, with coordinated and long wait times due to congestion, flying cars on the other hand would have high mobility, the ability to rotate on a point, fast local transportation and low levels of congested traffic.

 

 

 

Also Elon did not say flying cars are airplanes, since Elon is perfection, probably only the narrator actually said this.

 

 

[Middcore]

Now you're in for it.

 

 

[WereCatf]

3 minutes ago, _princess_ said:

Airplanes have low level of mobility and are generally suited for long distance travel, with coordinated and long wait times due to congestion, flying cars on the other hand would have high mobility, the ability to rotate on a point, fast local transportation and low levels of congested traffic.

You're speaking as if flying cars were a thing already and had any sort of a standardized design. They aren't a thing and there is no standardized design, so you can't just claim that they have this feature or that feature. They MAY have those, but whether flying cars will even become a thing is yet to be proven.

 

Secondly, you're conflating airplanes with airlines; two different things.

[Semper]

31 minutes ago, _princess_ said:

Airplanes have low level of mobility and are generally suited for long distance travel, with coordinated and long wait times due to congestion, flying cars on the other hand would have high mobility, the ability to rotate on a point, fast local transportation and low levels of congested traffic.

What defines "long distance" travel? Further than you can walk in a day? Ride a horse? Drive a car?
There was a time when 25 miles was "long distance".
There was a time when 100 miles was "long distance".
There's people in the world that can drive for two hours and drive through multiple different countries.
Due to traffic, It can (not infrequently) take me two hours to get to the heart of Los Angeles. I can get to the US/Mexico border in under that, however. Los Angeles is not a long distance drive for me. A trip to the border is not a long distance drive for me. To someone else, two hours may be among the longest distance they've every driven. Further more, what is "local" transportation. To the supermarket? Your Grandmother's house? the closest nearby metropolitan? Within your state? Within your country?

Airplanes, aircraft of any kind, for that matter do not have congestion in the exact same way that cars do not have congestion. Roadways, flight paths, destinations and departure points have congestion.

There's aircraft that are considered to be airplanes that have the ability to take off and land vertically, as well as rotate on point. VTOL; V-22, multiple generations and designations of Harrier fighters, and the XV-15 being the most well known.

As @WereCatf has said, There is no standard for "flying cars" they're a high level pipe dream right now. Your stance takes heavily from the position of airlines, airports, air traffic control, not what does and does not make an airplane an airplane. They don't exist in any meaningful quantity that can establish and define a standard. They don't have an "average" fuel economy, and thusly flight distance. They don't' have congestion, as there's not enough of them to cause congestion. For that matter, they have very few departure points, and even fewer destinations.

Your stance is no more correct nor incorrect than his.

[Mark Kaine]

well I hate the guy as much as everyone else, but a broken clock is right once a day (depending on your time format even twice a day) and, well, "flying cars"  *are* airplanes.

[tikker]

Indeed they are not, and the Sun is hot, what else is new? The analogy is fine though. Even if we got literal flying cars we'd likely have infrastructure very similar to our driving cars right now to prevent chaos from ensuing.

[airborne spoon]

If flying cars aren't airplanes they why TF do you need a pilot's license to operate one in flying mode? Oh thats why, BECAUSE ITS A FUCKING AIRPLANE!!

Below is the specs for Terrafugia flying car for reference.

 

 

[JZStudios]

This is laughably dumb. Having been in the industry and working on propellers for flying cars, yes they are airplanes and nothing you said makes any sense. There's a lot more to airplanes than 737s.

At absolute best they would be single or two passenger VTOLs, and yes, they'd still be airplanes. Maybe helicopters if you want to stretch it. The classic idea of flying cars, and the ones currently in "production" are literally slapping wings and a prop on a car and you need to have a pilots license to fly and still have to call in with the FAA and ATC.

[IkeaGnome]

And helicopters are not airplanes.

Spoiler

Oh wait...

[TVwazhere]

Okay, but is this an airplane?

^{(Technically, yes?)}

[tikker]

4 hours ago, airborne spoon said:

If flying cars aren't airplanes they why TF do you need a pilot's license to operate one in flying mode? Oh thats why, BECAUSE ITS A FUCKING AIRPLANE!!

Below is the specs for Terrafugia flying car for reference.

Technically if it doesn't have wings it's an aircraft. Helicopters aren't airplanes and still require a pilot's license An airplane is defined as

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A powered flying vehicle with fixed wings and a weight greater than that of the air it displaces.

whereas an aircraft can be anything

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An aeroplane, helicopter, or other machine capable of flight.

(according to oxford english dictionary)

[Kilrah]

  

1 minute ago, TVwazhere said:

Okay, but is this an airplane?

 

This is not something that would fly as depicted, so no 

[Sauron]

A plane is not a flying car.

 

A helicopter is

 

@TVwazherequote isn't working, that looks exactly like half of a racing pod with a seat strapped on it

 

[Amias]

Definition of an Airplane:

 

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An airplane or aeroplane (informally plane) is a powered, fixed-wing aircraft that is propelled forward by thrust from a jet engine, propeller or rocket engine. Airplanes come in a variety of sizes, shapes, and wing configurations. The broad spectrum of uses for airplanes includes recreation, transportation of goods and people, military, and research. Worldwide, commercial aviation transports more than four billion passengers annually on airliners^[1] and transports more than 200 billion tonne-kilometers^[2] of cargo annually, which is less than 1% of the world's cargo movement.^[3] Most airplanes are flown by a pilot on board the aircraft, but some are designed to be remotely or computer-controlled such as drones.

 

Definition of a Flying Car:

 

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A flying car is a type of personal air vehicle or roadable aircraft that provides door-to-door transportation by both ground and air. The term "flying car" is also sometimes used to include hovercars.

 

Yeah, I'm siding with the billionaire who has or is continuing to revolutionise space travel, electrical vehicles, global telecommunications, tunnel transportation, digital electronic payments and solar panel deployment over some internet nobodies.

 

The guys a genius, I don't care for interrogating his personal life, you don't become that successful by being boring and normal. Dude is ruthless and good on him for it. The world is too soft, we need more maveriks to challenge and push things.

 

Also flying cars is f***ing dumb and an absolute waste of time.

[TVwazhere]

15 hours ago, Sauron said:

@TVwazherequote isn't working, that looks exactly like half of a racing pod with a seat strapped on it

It's the Oppressor MKII from GTAV. Comes complete with missiles too!

15 hours ago, Kilrah said:

  This is not something that would fly as depicted, so no 

Eh, we'll iron out the details later  

[RoseLuck462]

They kinda are

[Helpful Tech Witch]

All this arguing about airplanes being flying cars or not, no one asks:

Why does everyone listen to Elon Musk at this point?

[Mling]

I once heard someone claim we already have flying cars. We move our cars in three dimensions via tunnels and overpasses.

[whm1974]

15 hours ago, TVwazhere said:

It's the Oppressor MKII from GTAV. Comes complete with missiles too!

Eh, we'll iron out the details later  

So not real life velhical but a mock up instead.

[TempestCatto]

Flying cars would be a type of aircraft, thus regulated by the FAA when airborne. They are not airplanes, but aircraft. At this point in time, they would be considered experimental aircraft.

 

 

[papajo]

On 2/4/2021 at 7:18 AM, _princess_ said:

Lets break it down to the basic truths.

 

 

Flying cars are not airplanes.

 

Flying cars are not airplanes.

 

Flying cars are not airplanes.

 

Airplanes have low level of mobility and are generally suited for long distance travel, with coordinated and long wait times due to congestion, flying cars on the other hand would have high mobility, the ability to rotate on a point, fast local transportation and low levels of congested traffic.

Dont get confused by words/names and how you have been introduced to them e.g Car used to mean a wooden box with wheels pulled by a horse... 

 

 

You should ask yourself what is an airplane? (also btw that is the whole premise of the video you linked is about  thinking of the basic ideas instead of holding on what you know from your past) 

 

 

It is a metal contraption that people sit in and fly in order to go from point A to point B

 

What is a flying car? It is a metal contraption that people sit in and fly in order to go from point A to point B

 

So flying cars are airplanes. 

 

 

 

You might say yes but a flying car can just go from point A to point B using only its wheels without actually flying.

 

Well an airplane can do the same it is just less efficient (as the flying car is less efficient in flying compared to an airplane further more added/different functionality doesnt change the basic idea, seaplanes can float on water for example while "regular" planes cant, doesn't mean that seaplanes arent airplanes) 

 

 

 

 

[papajo]

On 2/4/2021 at 11:58 PM, TVwazhere said:

Okay, but is this an airplane?

^{(Technically, yes?)}

I wonder how that would not destroy its fins/legs since they dont have any wheels + it doesnt have any sort of jet engine for vertical ascension (to mitigate the lack of wheels) 

 

Also how can it have a piston and a shaft while it is clearly a jet engine lol 

 

Rockstar has lost its creativity

[TetraSky]

Another difference is, I wouldn't trust anyone behind the "wheel" of a flying car if it didn't 100% fly by itself without any input front the dumb monkey sitting between the front glass window and the seat. We are likely a good decade or two away from "flying cars" to be a thing.

 

Also, considering we've seen some prototype basically take off and land the same way airplanes do... They aren't that much different from a regular tiny plane. Not all flying car prototype are the helicopter/vtol type.

[papajo]

1 minute ago, TetraSky said:

Another difference is, I wouldn't trust anyone behind the "wheel" of a flying car if it didn't 100% fly by itself without any input front the dumb monkey sitting between the front glass window and the seat.

Would you purchase an airticket?  

[TetraSky]

1 hour ago, SGT-AMD said:

That means that you are trusting the monkey at the airport to fly it. Personally, I would rather have a professional in the monkeys seat any day.

Of course I'm trusting the monkey at the airport to fly it. They were trained for it. They are licensed for it.
But the regular Joe and Jane's who barely remembers their driving lessons ? I wouldn't trust them with a flying coffin.