SaltTel - Apparently an 8th gen Core i3 is better than a 3rd gen ryzen

[Fnige]

Medium rare beef

 

Team blue is now claiming that the 3700U from AMD is worse than an i3-8145U

 

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According to Intel, the Core i3–8145U (a dual-core chip) is up to 65% better than the newly launched Ryzen 7 3700U (a quad-core processor).

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This slide from Intel claims that the Core i3–8145U delivers “longer productivity on the go”, offering up to 65% better overall performance. Where they got that figure is a mystery for the ages. Even in their own breakdown, the chip is supposedly 10–20% faster in tasks ranging from media editing to web-browsing.

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It’s a shame Intel has resorted to such tactics despite the fact that their products are quite competitive. The Ryzen 7 3700U competes with the Core i5–8265U and it yes, it costs more but performs more or less the same.

Intel has to calm down. Thats all i have to say about this

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, SlimyPython said:

offering up to 65% better overall performance. Where they got that figure is a mystery for the ages.

obviously, 10+18+4+23 = 65

[porina]

It's not "3rd gen" Ryzen, at least not in any meaningful sense. The mobile 3700U is a Zen+ design, not Zen 2. AMD unfortunately copied Intel's old HEDT naming scheme meaning it appears to be a generation newer than the number suggests.

[Rune]

If we were allowed to post things from IREP there's a lot worse in there..

[S w a t s o n]

Now this is what I call desperation!

[dizmo]

Companies do this all the time. If it's better, why not emphasis that? It also wouldn't surprise me if it's better at battery life, AMD mobile has never really excelled at that. 

[ApolloX75]

My laptop I use for work has an 8th gen i3 in it. Slow as hell in every task.

[COTG]

13 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Companies do this all the time. If it's better, why not emphasis that? It also wouldn't surprise me if it's better at battery life, AMD mobile has never really excelled at that. 

because it is undoubtably irrefutably not better? it may be in some VERY VERY specific tasks, but claiming that its "up to" 65% better in overall performance isnt just misleading, its flat out lying 

[leadeater]

45 minutes ago, dizmo said:

AMD mobile has never really excelled at that. 

I'm interested to see Zen2 mobile CPUs and how those do, hopefully they are a lot better than past efforts.

[AnonymousGuy]

You see all the ^superscript numbers next to those claims?  It's because they're backed up with fact.  The tests they use may be one sided, but the numbers aren't just made up.

[Fnige]

3 hours ago, Rune said:

If we were allowed to post things from IREP there's a lot worse in there..

wait... are we allowed to post from medium rare steak?

[Taf the Ghost]

1 hour ago, dizmo said:

Companies do this all the time. If it's better, why not emphasis that? It also wouldn't surprise me if it's better at battery life, AMD mobile has never really excelled at that. 

Mobile is one of the places Intel has structural advantages because of development work. However, they did get that advantage by preventing AMD from entering mobile on several occasions.

 

Renoir next year is going to be really interesting, though it'll be forever before AMD puts a dent in Mobile.  Even with the win by getting into Surface devices.

[Fnige]

3 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Mobile is one of the places Intel has structural advantages because of development work. However, they did get that advantage by preventing AMD from entering mobile on several occasions.

 

Renoir next year is going to be really interesting, though it'll be forever before AMD puts a dent in Mobile.  Even with the win by getting into Surface devices.

even then, intel acted better there (if i remember from daves vid)

[Arika]

Marketing. Everyone does it. 

[Derangel]

6 minutes ago, Arika S said:

Marketing. Everyone does it. 

"Everyone does it, that means we should never call it out. Never think or complain, just consume mindlessly."

[Arika]

3 minutes ago, Derangel said:

"Everyone does it, that means we should never call it out. Never think or complain, just consume mindlessly."

marketing is not news. if we went through every single tech press release and made a news thread about it., all legit news threads would be buried under a sea of nothing

[Derangel]

Just now, Arika S said:

marketing is not news. if we went through every single tech press release and made a news thread about it., all legit news threads would be buried under a sea of nothing

Umm...What? If marketing isn't news then press releases wouldn't be posted.

[Arika]

30 minutes ago, Derangel said:

Umm...What? If marketing isn't news then press releases wouldn't be posted.

and i would argue that some of them don't actually belong in the news section when it amount to little more than a single powerpoint slide. Especially when data is misconstrude to show said product in the best possible light against a competitor with no other information about the product itself. 

But hey, i dont run these forums.

 

EDIT: ALL comparison marketing is bullshit, give me the facts of your product as a standalone item and let me draw my own conclusions 

[Deli]

The i3 8145u only has two cores four threads. Or am i mistaken?

 

Our two cores budget CPU can beat the rival's top end product by 65%.

 

Intel.....!

[amdorintel]

1 minute ago, Deli said:

The i3 8145u only has two core four threads. Or am i mistaken?

 

Intel.....!

2c/4t

 

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/149090/intel-core-i3-8145u-processor-4m-cache-up-to-3-90-ghz.html

[Arika]

13 minutes ago, Deli said:

The i3 8145u only has two cores four threads. Or am i mistaken?

 

Our two cores budget CPU can beat the rival's top end product by 65%.

 

Intel.....!

anything can beat anything if you pick and chose your tests very carefully

[WereCatf]

Just now, Arika S said:

anything can beat anything if you pick and chose your tests very carefully

I hear paper can beat rock!

[amdorintel]

2 minutes ago, Arika S said:

anything can beat anything if you pick and chose your tests very carefully

the polls say you are wrong though

[Deli]

13 minutes ago, Arika S said:

anything can beat anything if you pick and chose your tests very carefully

I suppose Fiat can start advertising its Panda is faster than Porsche 911.

[Arika]

8 minutes ago, Deli said:

I suppose Fiat can start advertising its Panda is faster than Porsche 911.

If they can find a test were it can cross the finish line first, they technically can.

 

this is why compartive marketing is bullshit.