[Updated] Nvidia releases a new Titan X GPU called "Titan Xp"

[Inkz]

Thought this was fake at first.

 

Also I totally called that they were going to make a card with 3840 CUDA cores and target 4k gaming. After all I made the joke that the had the other cards with 2560 or 1920 CUDA cores and those were perfect for their respective resolutions.

[badjokr]

Too bad the import tax of electronics are high in my country. Literally 25% right to the states pocket change.

[marldorthegreat]

21 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Now that depends why it originally was a cut-down core in the first place. Was it because yields weren't good enough or was it a cash grab? Since it's unlikely anyone would go from a Titan X(P) to a Titan Xp, it seems far more likely that yields just weren't high enough before. 

Maybe, but its a $1000 video card, worse yields probably shouldn't make a difference. 

[Castdeath97]

Nvidia are just taking the piss with the names aren't they?

[Mihle]

Nvidia have to make bad names on purpose, like, its no way they think it actually is a good name, right? Riiiiight......?

[Marinatall_Ironside]

6 minutes ago, Mihle said:

Nvidia have to make bad names on purpose, like, its no way they think it actually is a good name, right? Riiiiight......?

Maybe they're running out of ideas for names

 

Although I prefer Nvidia for their power-efficient GPUs, I just hope that the Radeon RX Vega can bring something to the high-performance table. I may consider that GPU as well for my next upgrade, we'll see.

[goodtofufriday]

31 minutes ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

You McGyver'd the PSU from a 6-pin to an 8-pin. Don't think that's recommended.

Pretty common mod, and the card is running a custom FW if I recall correctly. 

 

Though the recommended mod has been to install an actual PSU.

[Valentyn]

38 minutes ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

You McGyver'd the PSU from a 6-pin to an 8-pin. Don't think that's recommended.

Nope, they support it really well considering it's a 1000W PSU.

Been running near top end NVIDIA GPUs since 2010 with it, sold it in 2013 and it's still chugging along

 

Not bad for a 2009 MP, that had it's processor upgraded, RAM, GPUs, SSDs, Blu-Ray and more.

[Bouzoo]

1 hour ago, Kevo05s said:

it's even funnier seeing your profile pic being linus freaking out about the first titan!

It was Linus freaking out about GtX 760 with 6GB of GDDR5. 

[Soonercoop]

2 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

My mother buys jewels, thousands of dollars in rocks and no one says anything... I don't give a crap about jewels/rocks, my luxury are Titan cards, but after this dick move... Who knows... I'll find another hobby.

Yes but jewels are not outperformed by the newest architecture every 1-2 years. If you buy a Titan you are essentially buying into an early access platform for new features and performance early and people have been complaining about this with Nvidia for years now. 9 months is a bit short but it's not a new concept. Anyone could have looked at the Maxwell and Kepler lineups and known since the 1080 release that a 1080ti would release.

[Kamina]

This just makes it confusing because I referred the other one as Titan XP.

[dalekphalm]

4 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

What to complain, you got it easy, I'm with a fake Titan XP now, kinda of a dick move, you buy a Titan expecting to have the finest card of the architecture then you get a 80ti that is equal and a second Titan that is better? what's with that... 

The thing is, when the Titan X Pascal was launched, we KNEW it wasn't the biggest Pascal chip. We knew:

 

1. That the Titan X Pascal was not the fully unlocked GP102

2. That GP102 wasn't even the biggest Pascal chip (GP100)

 

So, I'm sorry to say that if you based your purchasing decision on the Titan X Pascal being "the best possible card for this architecture", then you made a poor purchasing decision.

 

We knew that there was a larger GP102 variant with more CUDA cores over what the Titan X Pascal had, in the form of their compute cards. We also knew, also in the form of compute cards, that an even larger GP100 exists (Though this still hasn't seen a consumer variant).

 

So it's entirely possible that in another 6 months, NVIDIA could release the GP100 as ANOTHER Titan X variant, making the Titan XP (2017) redundant once again.

 

People should base their decisions on the info available at the moment, and the performance we know it has. Not based on it being "The best card in the arch", when we know it's not.

[79wjd]

1 hour ago, marldorthegreat said:

Maybe, but its a $1000 video card, worse yields probably shouldn't make a difference. 

They do if they can't sustain their sales. 

 

But, what advantage is there for Nvidia to sell a slightly cut down Titan X(P) and then a few months later, after there is still no competition, replacing it with a full GP102 card? 

[ZothOmmog]

Titan Xp and Titan X Pascal, wow this will make so much sense in benchmarks....

[dalekphalm]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

They do if they can't sustain their sales. 

 

But, what advantage is there for Nvidia to sell a slightly cut down Titan X(P) and then a few months later, after there is still no competition, replacing it with a full GP102 card? 

At this point, the only logical explanation is:

 

1. They wanted to have a Titan level card that was "clearly" superior to the 1080 Ti

2. They wanted to pre-emptively ward off any potential that VEGA might reclaim the "fastest single GPU" crown

 

This could mean that VEGA spooked them a bit. Or it could mean they were just being cautious. Hard to say until we get solid VEGA numbers.

[79wjd]

2 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

At this point, the only logical explanation is:

 

1. They wanted to have a Titan level card that was "clearly" superior to the 1080 Ti

2. They wanted to pre-emptively ward off any potential that VEGA might reclaim the "fastest single GPU" crown

 

This could mean that VEGA spooked them a bit. Or it could mean they were just being cautious. Hard to say until we get solid VEGA numbers.

But releasing a full GP102 Titan X(P) from day one would have done that too. If anything, I would think it would help Nvidia to have released a full GP102 on day one since more people would likely have paid up from the 1080 to the Titan since the performance delta would be greater. So, it can't be more profitable for Nvidia this way, and no one is going to upgrade from a Titan X(P)/1080Ti to a Titan Xp. So the only conclusion I can come to is that yields simply weren't good enough on day one. 

[Hiryuu]

I think that is just a show off dick from Nvidia -naming it the TXp was clearly a pun- they need a TOP DOG card for HEDT

[Hobox]

If this thing STILL doesn't have double precision, it's the most expensive "fuck you" I've ever seen a company give to their customers who pay up big money for products. Just a massive fucking middle finger to everyone to bought the first Titan X (Pascal)

[DoctorWho1975]

Titan XPee - R Kelly Edition

 

This is just going to frak with NewEgg, Amazon, etc when searching for the Titan Xp... er, XP, er whatever the hell this monstrosity is.

[RGProductions]

4 hours ago, Grinners said:

I wonder if people who buy Ferraris get angry at Ferrari when they release a new model. 

 

Seems a silly thing to get angry about. 

 

They would if they made a new car, totally different to the 488, but called it the 488.

[dalekphalm]

7 minutes ago, RGProductions said:

They would if they made a new car, totally different to the 488, but called it the 488.

The naming scheme is moronic, no doubt. It will, at minimum, cause lots of confusion about their product stack.

 

But most people in this thread that seem to be genuinely mad about the Titan Xp (2017) is that it makes their Titan X (Pascal) officially "No longer the king card". That is, in my opinion, a stupid thing to get mad about.

[DoctorWho1975]

It would be like Ferrari releasing the 488 Type F1 for 1.2 million, then releasing a 488 Ti for 700K a few months later which performs better only to release a 488 Type F-One for 1.2M million less then 2 months after that which blows the door off the 488 Type F1 all the while promising the 488 Type F1 would be top of the line for that generation of car. This without telling a soul that these cars were coming.

[dalekphalm]

Just now, DoctorWho1975 said:

It would be like Ferrari releasing the 488 Type F1 for 1.2 million, then releasing a 488 Ti for 700K a few months later which performs better only to release a 488 Type F-One for 1.2M million less then 2 months after that which blows the door off the 488 Type F1 all the while promising the 488 Type F1 would be top of the line for that generation of car. This without telling a soul that these cars were coming.

It would not be like that at all.

 

Please post a source where NVIDIA promised that the Titan X Pascal would be the fastest GPU of that generation/architecture? They certainly claimed it was the fastest consumer GPU on the market, but I don't believe I've ever seen a statement where they've claimed they will never make a faster Pascal GPU.

 

Furthermore, as I stated above, we KNEW that Titan X Pascal was NOT the fully unlocked GP102 chip. We KNEW that there was an even larger GP102 chip out there, due to their compute cards.

 

On top of that, we even KNEW that GP102 wasn't even the top dog, again, due to compute cards running GP100.

 

So, I will reiterate. Anyone who's mad because Titan X Pascal is no longer the king card, is naive at best, because we knew all of this information months and months ago - in fact, we've known all this for almost a year, since when NVIDIA started marketing all the Pascal stuff.

[DoctorWho1975]

So the only way to hold NVidia's feet to the fire for the XP...or Xp or whatever the frak the new Titan is is if they came out and promised Titan XPascal would be king of the hill for XX amount of time? I'd be pretty pissed if I had paid 1200 dollars for a card only to have a card 500 dollars less in less then a year stomp it then 2 months later have a new card released for the same price that obliterates it. What's the point of spending money to have the top card if a few months later the prices are going to get dumped?

 

If I'm investing 1200 dollars in a GPU I'd expect it to last as the top dog more then a few months and certainly not get beaten out by a 700 dollar card only to have another carrot dangled a couple of months later for... 1200 dollars.

 

[razor007]

6 hours ago, M.A.P said:

I don't think it is worth the money for gaming though. As I'm sure that the extra money doesn't justify the performance but for productivity stuff this thing is a monster. I expect a really good performance increase over GTX 1080, Titan XP.

Nvidia making red team jealous day by day with their new cards....and not going to good for green team....when red team will come with their new card vega....going to smash the butts of green team then cherry pop out aahhahh