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Dell case power button shenanigans

Nesy

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So I'm going to college this fall, and I'm planning on building a PC in an old Dell case. When I do this I want the power button, Power LED, and HDD indicator to be able to work as intended, so as to make it seem as if this is just a normal Dell computer, but along the way I ran into a few problems. 

 

 

First of all, it uses an all in one custom connector for the power button that nobody has documentation for on the pinout, that's fine I'll do it myself. I'll figure out each wire. 

 

 

So I spend the time one by one testing pins with my test bench until I get the button itself working

 

The power LED

 

And the HDD indicator all working

 

Except one thing is bothering me: The power LED never turns white like it should, it stays orange, but there are no more pins I could possibly hook into on this 6 pin connector (really 9 pin but 3 are not populated) 

 

So I guess I'm really just asking on here if anyone has the very niche knowledge to help me solve this problem and help me make this disguised PC build a little more stealthy when I finally get all the parts in to put it together properly. 

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Sorry in advance about my handwriting on the poorly drawn pinout diagram I made. Trust me I know it's bad. 

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you shur is sapos to go white? only thing i can think of is different voltage per led.

so is that like orange standby and white power on?

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Corsair Lian Li Bykski Barrow thermaltake nzxt aquacomputer 5v argb pin out guide + argb info

5v device to 12v mb header

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6 minutes ago, thrasher_565 said:

you shur is sapos to go white? only thing i can think of is different voltage per led.

so is that like orange standby and white power on?

Yep. It's supposed to go white, I found videos of it online with the original Dell motherboard inside and such, orange with the original Dell motherboard usually seems to indicate there is power but but there is some kind of  hardware failure, so I'm wondering what I'am failing to replicate. I'll have to look into it more in the morning. 

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5 minutes ago, Nesy said:

Yep. It's supposed to go white, I found videos of it online with the original Dell motherboard inside and such, orange with the original Dell motherboard usually seems to indicate there is power but but there is some kind of  hardware failure, so I'm wondering what I'am failing to replicate. I'll have to look into it more in the morning. 

hmm ya seems compacted for a dell. my guess is the power is  variable thats how it would no. its not like things had a smart chip in it to tell it what to do. (as far as i no...) you might be able to put some small voltage thow it and push the button and see what it dose on a multy meteor but im guessing its a momentary switch? and with out more data wires only thing i can think of. a normal mb wont have variable voltage at lest for the headers.

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also i edit post alot because you no why...

Thrasher_565 hub links build logs

Corsair Lian Li Bykski Barrow thermaltake nzxt aquacomputer 5v argb pin out guide + argb info

5v device to 12v mb header

Odds and Sods Argb Rgb Links

 

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1 hour ago, Nesy said:

Except one thing is bothering me: The power LED never turns white like it should, it stays orange

What happens if you flip the power LED polarity?

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6 hours ago, AbydosOne said:

What happens if you flip the power LED polarity?

It just doesn't turn on. Which makes sense, LEDs are diodes.

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4 minutes ago, Nesy said:

It just doesn't turn on. Which makes sense, LEDs are diodes.

I was under the impression that the two colors were reverse parallel LEDs (one color one polarity, other color other polarity).

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Laptop (Narrative): Lenovo Flex 5 81X20005US | Ryzen 5 4500U | 16GB RAM (soldered) | Vega 6 Graphics | SKHynix P31 1TB NVMe SSD | Intel AX200 Wifi (all-around awesome machine)

 

Proxmox Server (Veda): Ryzen 7 3800XT | AsRock Rack X470D4U | Corsair H80i v2 | 64GB Micron DDR4 ECC 3200MT/s | 4x 10TB WD Whites / 4x 14TB Seagate Exos / 2× Samsung PM963a 960GB SSD | Seasonic Prime Fanless 500W | Intel X540-T2 10G NIC | LSI 9207-8i HBA | Fractal Design Node 804 Case (side panels swapped to show off drives) | VMs: TrueNAS Scale; Ubuntu Server (PiHole/PiVPN/NGINX?); Windows 10 Pro; Ubuntu Server (Apache/MySQL)


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Network:

Spoiler
                           ┌─────────────── Office/Rack ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
Google Fiber Webpass ────── UniFi Security Gateway ─── UniFi Switch 8-60W ─┬─ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Veda (Proxmox Virtual Switch)
(500Mbps↑/500Mbps↓)                             UniFi CloudKey Gen2 (PoE) ─┴─ Veda (IPMI)           ╠═ Veda-NAS (HW Passthrough NIC)
╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╩═ Narrative (Asus USB 2.5G NIC)
║ ┌────── Closet ──────┐   ┌─────────────── Bedroom ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
╚═ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╤═ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Byarlant
   (PoE)                 │                        ╠═ Narrative (Cable Matters USB-PD 2.5G Ethernet Dongle)
                         │                        ╚═ Jesta Cannon*
                         │ ┌─────────────── Media Center ──────────────────────────────────┐
Notes:                   └─ UniFi Switch 8 ─────────┬─ UniFi Access Point nanoHD (PoE)
═══ is Multi-Gigabit                                ├─ Sony Playstation 4 
─── is Gigabit                                      ├─ Pioneer VSX-S520
* = cable passed to Bedroom from Media Center       ├─ Sony XR65A80K (Google TV)
** = cable passed from Media Center to Bedroom      └─ Work Laptop** (Startech USB-PD Dock)

Retired/Other:

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Testbed/Old Desktop (Kshatriya): Xeon X5470 @ 4.0GHz | ZALMAN CNPS9500 | Gigabyte EP45-UD3L | 8GB Nanya DDR2 400MHz | XFX HD6870 DD | OCZ Vertex 3 Max-IOPS 120GB | Corsair CX430M | HooToo USB 3.0 PCIe Card | Osprey 230 Video Capture | NZXT H230 Case

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6 minutes ago, Nesy said:

It just doesn't turn on. Which makes sense, LEDs are diodes.

They're on to something, though. The Optiplex 7010 has two LEDs 'facing' opposite directions, so all they have to do to change the color on those models is reverse the polarity of the power LED pins.

 

https://www.dell.com/community/en/conversations/vostro-desktops/vostro-3470-mainboard-pinout-for-power-switch-connector/647f9bedf4ccf8a8defeee13

 

You might have to take the front button panel out of the case and see how it's wired on that end.

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42 minutes ago, Needfuldoer said:

They're on to something, though. The Optiplex 7010 has two LEDs 'facing' opposite directions, so all they have to do to change the color on those models is reverse the polarity of the power LED pins.

 

https://www.dell.com/community/en/conversations/vostro-desktops/vostro-3470-mainboard-pinout-for-power-switch-connector/647f9bedf4ccf8a8defeee13

 

You might have to take the front button panel out of the case and see how it's wired on that end.

So I figured it out

 

The answer was a different voltage like thrasher suggested but I accidentally gave it too much and it immediately burned out. It shows orange at 3.3v and I gave it 5v. For a couple seconds it was white before it turned off and wouldn't come on again. Probably should have done smaller increments up. 

 

My own fault but I'm sure I could put my own light into there so I think I'll just do that. One that glows white lol. Probably what I should have done in the first place I just wanted to see if I could do it with what was already there. 

Thanks for the suggestions ya'll, pleasure speaking with you all. 

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Swapped HDD indicator and PWR LED so that problem is solved 

 

Now I just have to find a replacement for the HDD indicator

 

Again thanks for the help ya'll I appreciate it

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