[updated] Asetek demands Gigabyte and AMD to cease sales of the 980 Water Force and Fury X on infringement claims

[patrickjp93]

You did. In the title.

Eh, you're nitpicking. The title isn't factually incorrect, and this website does gain revenues from strong forum post titles bringing in more outside readers.

[AHaskin14]

Very interested to see where this will go.

[Notional]

Eh, you're nitpicking. The title isn't factually incorrect, and this website does gain revenues from strong forum post titles bringing in more outside readers.

 

@zMeul's general bias being taken into account, I think it's valid to point out. Also just in general. Be more objective. There's plenty of space to pour vile out about a company in the subjective part of the news post.

[Darkman]

Jay managed to get his matrix R9 290x beaten by the MSI r9 390 in some games

 

Just to let you know Jay has mentioned before his matrix seems to have some defeats that it shouldn't have. But either way, it makes sense with the vram difference.

[CaptainGazzz]

Does this mean that AMD will use a Asetek cooler for their FuryX2? Seems to me like that would be a safer bet. It wouldn't hurt to change the block on the FuryX as well.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Lol the waterforce product that what has sold 10 units? I doubt gigabyte gives a damn since they introduced their own single gpu hybrid anyways just a few weeks ago.

Yea I can see this both ways, but I honestly thought that if this was going to happen it was going to occur like 3 months ago.

[Castdeath97]

Just to let you know Jay has mentioned before his matrix seems to have some defeats that it shouldn't have. But either way, it makes sense with the vram difference.

He didn't mention them again though, maybe he found a new one or fixed it? I dunno.

[Darkman]

He didn't mention them again though, maybe he found a new one or fixed it? I dunno.

Knowing him he'd mention something about it being fixed or getting a new one. All I remember is him complaining about it in the review and a couple tech talks.

[Suika]

Man, I remember people saying the case against Cooler Master wouldn't affect AMD. That's funny.

[Notional]

Lol the waterforce product that what has sold 10 units? I doubt gigabyte gives a damn since they introduced their own single gpu hybrid anyways just a few weeks ago.

Yea I can see this both ways, but I honestly thought that if this was going to happen it was going to occur like 3 months ago.

 

It sets precedence in court making other cases easier to win for Asetek. It might also prevent Gigabyte from using other than Asetek units in future products as well.

[Misanthrope]

AMD could easily bypass this: In fact it wouldn't even costs them any fucking money: just allow vendors to sell non-reference Fury x cards that are not liquid cooled. 

 

This tell me that either 1) AMD is being stubbornly stupid here or 2) Asetek has a fairly weak case in the eyes of AMD/Cooler master

 

At this point both of this propositions are equally likely.

[zMeul]

Asetek has a fairly weak case in the eyes of AMD/Cooler master

couple of things: Asetek suit against CM was not new, AMD had to know about it 

AMD's original designs was done with Asetek, but went with the cheaper CM solution

and the biggest problem for them, the court already made the decision, Asetek won the suit - all this is happening because CM refused to comply

[Derangel]

I doubt AMD will stop selling the Fury X, at least for long. They'll just have to get a new supplier for the AIO. Most likely, they'll have to make a deal with Asetek.

[patrickjp93]

Asetek needs to go eat a d*ck. As bad as Apple and Samsung are as patent trolls, Asetek takes the cake. Heck, their designs are basically Swiftech ripoffs with a smaller block unit.

[zMeul]

Asetek needs to go eat a d*ck. As bad as Apple and Samsung are as patent trolls, Asetek takes the cake. Heck, their designs are basically Swiftech ripoffs with a smaller block unit.

patent trolls exist and will continue to until something is done in the way patents are filled - it's like stopping a kid from wanting candy  :lol:

 

good or bad, the court ruled! and CM went .. "fuck it"; even Samsung payed Apple after some recent court rulling

[ivan134]

Man, I remember people saying the case against Cooler Master wouldn't affect AMD. That's funny.

It shouldnt have, but no one could have predicted Cooler Master would be stupid and ignore a court order to pay.

[Notional]

Asetek needs to go eat a d*ck. As bad as Apple and Samsung are as patent trolls, Asetek takes the cake. Heck, their designs are basically Swiftech ripoffs with a smaller block unit.

 

They invented/bought the rights to AIO technology. It's a brilliant design, so there is absolutely no patent trolling what so ever. This is what patents are designed to protect: Blatant ripoff of innovation/invention.

 

EKWB had no problems making a similar product, without breaking patents. If Asetek doesn't protect their IP, they will lose it and cease to exist.

[IAMSWIFT1]

980 Water Force - how many people actually bought that?! that monstrosity is irrelevant and GigaByte won't lose a dime discontinuing it

If Your Gonna Put The News Up,Include Everything

[patrickjp93]

They invented/bought the rights to AIO technology. It's a brilliant design, so there is absolutely no patent trolling what so ever. This is what patents are designed to protect: Blatant ripoff of innovation/invention.

 

EKWB had no problems making a similar product, without breaking patents. If Asetek doesn't protect their IP, they will lose it and cease to exist.

Oh BS. It's prior art. If you ever saw the old overclocking competitions (back when we still cared about ALL categories instead of just setting LN2 records) people designed AIOs long before Asetek put a patent on them. They literally stole the rights to designs from enthusiasts of the public domain. Their patent is BS and should be challenged on that merit and thrown out entirely.

 

There's nothing brilliant about it. It's obvious.

 

EKWB's patent is older than Asetek's, and EKWB doesn't troll it.

 

No, Asetek simply has to produce a better product for the same cost or give the same product for a lower cost than their competitors. Patents do nothing but stifle innovation and competition.

[spartaman64]

Oh BS. It's prior art. If you ever saw the old overclocking competitions (back when we still cared about ALL categories instead of just setting LN2 records) people designed AIOs long before Asetek put a patent on them. They literally stole the rights to designs from enthusiasts of the public domain. Their patent is BS and should be challenged on that merit and thrown out entirely.

 

There's nothing brilliant about it. It's obvious.

 

EKWB's patent is older than Asetek's, and EKWB doesn't troll it.

 

No, Asetek simply has to produce a better product for the same cost or give the same product for a lower cost than their competitors. Patents do nothing but stifle innovation and competition.

i dont think the problem is that cm used an AIO the problem is they used an AIO that is very similar in design to a asetek one

[Godlygamer23]

i dont think the problem is that cm used an AIO the problem is they used an AIO that is very similar in design to a asetek one

I'm pretty sure it's the same design.

[patrickjp93]

i dont think the problem is that cm used an AIO the problem is they used an AIO that is very similar in design to a asetek one

Which is BS since Asetek's design is just Swiftech's in a smaller package.

[spartaman64]

Which is BS since Asetek's design is just Swiftech's in a smaller package.

swiftech i think licensed that from asetek 

edit: nvm they didnt license it and had to withdraw the h220 from market because of that

[SuperCookie78]

I really wish Asetek didn't do this. I think they shouldn't even have those patents at all. You should be able to patent putting an already existing thing onto another already existing thing and call it your own. 

[Samfisher]

patent trolls exist and will continue to until something is done in the way patents are filled - it's like stopping a kid from wanting candy  :lol:

 

good or bad, the court ruled! and CM went .. "fuck it"; even Samsung payed Apple after some recent court rulling

How are they a patent troll? Asetek actually makes stuff with their patent, patent trolls don't.