AMD Ryzen Threadripper and Ryzen 3 Product Updates (Threadripper price reveal)

[The Benjamins]

8 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

The 1950X is running at 3.5GHz while the i9 is at 4.9-5GHz

ya and?

seeing how it turbos to 4Ghz, with a ample cooling setup we should see up to a 4Ghz OC which is a 14% boost or a estimated Cinebench score of 3400+.

 

so we know is at $1000

AMD is 3000 stock

Intel is 2200 stock

 

AMD is 3400 OC (estimated)

Intel is 2800 OC

 

AFAIK AMD is better.

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, The Benjamins said:

ya and?

The i9 is probably delidded and overclocked to the max, whereas the 1950X is at stock? If you also overclock the 1950X the score will jump to 3200-3400, so it will be competing with the 12 or 14 core i9

[The Benjamins]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

The i9 is probably delidded and overclocked to the max, whereas the 1950X is at stock? If you also overclock the 1950X the score will jump to 3200-3400, so it will be competing with the 12 or 14 core i9

but it is $1000 it is competing with the other $1000 CPU from intel, and that is the 7900X.

[juri-han]

its hard to compare the 1950X to the 7900X other then price, its going to come down to what do you want it for. intel will have the edge in single or duo core so it will be more flexible TR will be a multi core monster and will crush in any type of task that will use all those cores 

 

 

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, huilun02 said:

Why was Ryzen a success then?

Ryzen is a success because it offers similar levels of performance for half the price (7820X vs 1700)

[AnonymousGuy]

1 hour ago, typographie said:

Ideally, it looks like a good fit for a prosumer home workstation. Like Ryzen 5/7, it's a lot of pretty solid cores for a comparably good price.

 

But the cynic in me wants to say it will probably get thrown into a lot of gaming rigs because everyone is losing their minds over core counts and "future-proofing" again.

I don't think the 16 core is going to sell very much.  Look at the most popular Ryzen chip: a 6 core.  Ultimately an AMD buyer seems to be a very cheap/budget buyer who never buys the top end of anything, even top end of budget.

 

Pricing of the 16 core doesn't even seem that great considering you give up a lot of single core performance and have a platform that is probably going to be shit.  They couldn't even get their "mainstream" platform working and this is going to be even more niche.

 

I want to see OC 7900X vs. 16 core TR.  It won't surprise me if even in multithread the 7900X gets close and wrecks asshole in single thread.

[MorganO]

2 hours ago, Misanthrope said:

I'm surprised with the pricing of the 16 core part, maybe even a little bit thin on margins but if they wrestle away some market from intel it would pay up eventually.

 

Anyway it wouldn't be an appropriate thread about the most metal named processor product soon to be on the market without an appropriate theme song

 

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its two 1800x's

[ChalkChalkson]

1 hour ago, DXMember said:

you can do custom HTML in DOM Explorer (:

DOM Explorer? 

[Chaos_Sorcerer]

4 hours ago, Abe_R said:

 

 

[IAmAndre]

Should we expect price drops for Ryzen 5?

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, IAmAndre said:

Should we expect price drops for Ryzen 5?

I doubt it, Threadripper is HEDT and Ryzen is mainstream

[Guest lilbman]

Gotta love Dell Alienware!

[Chaos_Sorcerer]

Wait, what happened to the 1998X?

[Chaos_Sorcerer]

Also, why not Ryzen 9 or something? 

 

When are they gonna stop with these ridiculous names?

 

(Risen, epic, "ripping" threads)

[TacoSenpai]

6 minutes ago, Chaos_Sorcerer said:

Wait, what happened to the 1998X?

I was really hoping AMD would go with 1999X so it could gear its marketing to party like its 1999.  Hell I would have settled for 1990X so we could spam Running in the 90s like no tomorrow....oh and memes.  Memes are good.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

2 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

I mean that's not necessarily true. If you are going to invest a certain amount of money into a computer you have to take into account the entire cost of the computer to calculate price to performance. I mean any company buying a whole new system would take this approach. 

No. I mean, yes, that's the approach a company deciding over buying a computer vs. not buying that computer will take. That is not, however, the approach to make a decision between buying individual component A vs. individual component B.

 

So, full price comparisons are relevant for companies buying black boxes, and never upgrading them. For them, it is the price of Black Box 1, for performance A, vs the price of Black Box 2, for performance B. You can argue that's the situation for many companies. However, if we focus on those, then the CPUs' MSRP is irrelevant: they only care about the price Dell, HP, etc charge for their black boxes, which is based on their own markups, the actual demand they face, whatever marketing factor they can add to each model, the deals they sign with their own suppliers, and the wholesale prices they get on hardware, which need not be in line with retail MSRP.

The retail price of a CPU only matters for buyers of individual components, and for them the "right" analysis is in terms of marginal costs of said components, not total prices.

[Marinatall_Ironside]

12 minutes ago, Chaos_Sorcerer said:

Wait, what happened to the 1998X?

That is now known as the 1950X. The other SKUs have been canned, and the Ryzen Threadreeper lineup has been narrowed down to only 2 SKUs (a 12-core part and a 16-core part)

 

That would mean the two Ryzen Threadripper parts are now the 16-core 1950X monster CPU and the 12-core 1920X. They're like double-barreled shotguns for the Ryzen 7 1800X and the Ryzen 5 1600X respecitvely.

[aakopa]

So no 10 core , I was really hoping to see one and get it for around 550$ to 600$, 799$ for the 12 core one is just too much for me.

[WkdPaul]

Thread fixed ... sorry about the temporary mess.

[VagabondWraith]

I wonder why the Threadripper SKU's have been cut down? It would've been nice to see them make a 10, 12, 14 & 16 core part to go toe-to-toe with the Intel SKU's.

[Valentyn]

7 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

I wonder why the Threadripper SKU's have been cut down? It would've been nice to see them make a 10, 12, 14 & 16 core part to go toe-to-toe with the Intel SKU's.

Those ( 10 & 14 cores ) are likely from even more odd salvaged dies, so they'll likely come later.

Especially since they're odd numbers of cores essentially looking at it from 2 Zepplin dies.

 

[tsk]

54 minutes ago, JurunceNK said:

That is now known as the 1950X. The other SKUs have been canned, and the Ryzen Threadreeper lineup has been narrowed down to only 2 SKUs (a 12-core part and a 16-core part)

 

That would mean the two Ryzen Threadripper parts are now the 16-core 1950X monster CPU and the 12-core 1920X. They're like double-barreled shotguns for the Ryzen 7 1800X and the Ryzen 5 1600X respecitvely.

Is this confirmed by AMD? 

[Ithanul]

5 hours ago, XenosTech said:

RIP dreams of buying TR as a sever machine.... Maybe I'll be able to afford a whole build after 6 months to a year of saving.

Buy used Xeons.  You should be able to find some E5-2670s floating about.  That how I got mine and its mobo for 320 bucks.  (if you getting lucky on mobos) Nice little chip for ITX server.  Or, any other slight older server chips.  Businesses are always off loading chips when they upgrade their servers.

 

So, are any of these threadrippers getting ITX or MATX boards?

Still going to keep an eye if these can clock high across all cores.  Be nice to get a big monster high core count chip that can handle high clocks at full load across all the cores.

[Marinatall_Ironside]

14 minutes ago, tsk said:

Is this confirmed by AMD? 

That's pretty much correct, according to their video that they presented recently.

 

2 minutes ago, Ithanul said:

So, are any of these threadrippers getting ITX or MATX boards?

No way! The TR4 socket is physically way too large to fit onto ITX motherboards. mATX? Not very likely, but it seems to be possible if mATX motherboards with the LGA 2011-3 and LGA 2066 sockets exist. Just remember you're not going to stick 128GB of RAM onto the board.

Edited July 13, 2017 by JurunceNK

[Orcblood]

Oh the ballzzzz. 999!!! I wasn't expecting that low for a 16 core!