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Antivirus that mines Ethereum sounds a bit wrong, right? Norton puts one.

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Summary

Norton, the antivirus giant, has added an ethereum miner to it's latest version of Norton lifelock. Norton Crypto, allows users to use their machines to mine the Ethereum cryptocurrency during the computer's idle time.It will most probably use pooled resources to mine faster and distribute the rewards fairly. This is in part to prevent a nicehash-like situation, in which a person has to disactivate their antivirus. An update will bring this 'feature' to it's Norton 360 service in the coming weeks. Norton might add other cryptocurrencies later.

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The news was greeted with suspicion from many in the cryptocurrency sector. Mining cryptocurrency uses a lot of energy, and for most normal computers it is difficult if not impossible to make more money from running mining software than would be spent on electricity bills. While users could still make a profit if they use electricity they don’t pay for, such as from offices or student accommodation, that would carry potential legal risks.

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The company also says that it’ll store users’ crypto wallets in the cloud, with its own Norton Wallet. As far as actually using their gains, a Norton spokesperson tells The Verge there will be a button that allows users to “pull money into Coinbase.”

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 the company said it initially "will be focused on top cryptos that allow our members to get the highest reward for their computing capacity."

My thoughts

Kid's, don't be troglodyte, use common sense and you will never need an antivirus.

Also, now mcafee actually has reasons to call norton malware. Great going, symantec.

 

 

Jokes aside, pretty idiotic of Norton to do this. Now my mother will call me up after 3 years, saying that her laptop died, and then I discover she had accidentally switched on Norton crypto.

 

Sources

Antivirus firm Norton to offer cryptocurrency mining | Cryptocurrencies | The Guardian

Cybersecurity firm NortonLifeLock will let customers mine crypto - CNN

Norton antivirus adds Ethereum cryptocurrency mining - BBC News

Your next laptop may come with a cryptominer, courtesy of Norton - The Verge

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This just further solidifies my opinion that the only good thing to bear the Norton branding is Norton Ghost. At least that was actually fuggin useful.

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The first thing any sane person would do is completely remove norton and/or macaffee from their laptops. I highly doubt anyone tech savy enough to mine crypto uses norton

Please tag me @RTX 3090 so I can see your reply

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1 minute ago, RTX 3090 said:

The first thing any sane person would do is completely remove norton and/or macaffee from their laptops. I highly doubt anyone tech savy enough to mine crypto uses norton

I doubt anyone tech savvy uses any antivirus. Just use Windows defender, and get your software from trusted sources.

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and then Norton arranges deals with prebuilt OEMs to pre-install this crap into their systems? I don't trust companies like Dell to resist this

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16 minutes ago, RTX 3090 said:

The first thing any sane person would do is completely remove norton and/or macaffee from their laptops. I highly doubt anyone tech savy enough to mine crypto uses norton

That's the thing, this is for people who are not tech savvy enough and just "want in" on the whole mining craze, without going through the process of setting up Nicehash or whatever other software, getting a crypto wallet and everything else.

 

In any case, it's kind of dumb and I just hope they don't make it extremely easy, like flipping a toggle in the settings, to enable this. Or at least automatically disables itself if it notices the computer is not IDLE anymore.

Since it's only for select users, in the early access program, we won't have more info until it launches, maybe?
It's going to be mining Ethereum, most likely in a "pool" to make it worthwhile and this bypass the issue that apparently NiceHash have with Windows Defender blocking their malware software.

 

Now to see someone comments about how bloated Norton is and how this is just the cherry on top.... When they've completely rewritten their code years ago and it's not really anymore bloated than other third party security solutions compared to before. Controversial comment, oooo. Haters gonna hate pre-installed softwares, I guess.

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13 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

and then Norton arranges deals with prebuilt OEMs to pre-install this crap into their systems? I don't trust companies like Dell to resist this

Man, seeing how far Dell has fallen since the OptiPlex 7010 era is sad. They were on the right track back then and then they just started shidding and farding themselves to where we are now. As much as it pains me to agree because of how hard I shill things like the 3040 Micro even, I really do have to agree on that.

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30 minutes ago, flibberdipper said:

This just further solidifies my opinion that the only good thing to bear the Norton branding is Norton Ghost. At least that was actually fuggin useful.

True story, I still use it at work.

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Again antiviruses are some of the worst types of malware out there. We need to find John Macafee and let him know he can just exploit peoples lack of knowledge instead of killing people in Bolivia and enslaving teenage girls as sex workers on his private island

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Running Norton or McAfee is probably just as bad as mining for the hardware. With mining at least you get paid for ruining your hardware.

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2 hours ago, WolframaticAlpha said:

I doubt anyone tech savvy uses any antivirus. Just use Windows defender, and get your software from trusted sources.

yes, because trusted sources NEVER EVER become compromised!

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1 hour ago, BuckGup said:

Again antiviruses are some of the worst types of malware out there. We need to find John Macafee and let him know he can just exploit peoples lack of knowledge instead of killing people in Bolivia and enslaving teenage girls as sex workers on his private island

Remember when McAfee was a trusted software? I don't either, I wasn't alive in 1998

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3 minutes ago, wat3rmelon_man2 said:

Remember when McAfee was a trusted software? I don't either, I wasn't alive in 1998

Mcafee is a business man and I'm still disgusted politicians use him for advice for technological decisions or the fact he isn't in prison yet

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4 minutes ago, wat3rmelon_man2 said:

Remember when McAfee was a trusted software? I don't either, I wasn't alive in 1998

It was very well respected back in the days of DOS and Windows 98. Same with Norton and their Utilities.

 

How the mighty have fallen.....

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1 hour ago, BuckGup said:

Again antiviruses are some of the worst types of malware out there. We need to find John Macafee and let him know he can just exploit peoples lack of knowledge instead of killing people in Bolivia and enslaving teenage girls as sex workers on his private island

I hate to say it, but evert since... 2010 or so most AV products have been rather useless. Most of them switched to crappy html'ized GUI's that are bloated as hell, and to have any reasonable level of protection, it will idly sit there and burn 60% of the CPU as it scans everything on the mechanical drive, over and over again because drives are now so large that it's impossible to completely scan a 2TB drive in less than a week. SSD's have reversed that somewhat, but good grief, I long for the days of when AV products looked like this:

I jest.

 

But yeah, AV products are such a dumpster fire of bloat today that the only one that doesn't act that way is the Microsoft Defender.

 

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3 minutes ago, Kisai said:

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That video reminded me of fancy pants and line rider. 

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3 hours ago, WolframaticAlpha said:

My thoughts

 

Kid's, don't be troglodyte, use common sense and you will never need an antivirus.

Also, now mcafee actually has reasons to call norton malware. Great going, symantec.

like if official releases weren't ever compromised, nor exploit did exist

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49 minutes ago, 12345678 said:

like if official releases weren't ever compromised, nor exploit did exist

Well,I am pretty sure that i have a virus somewhere in a backup i made in 2011.

There are more than million files there so i have no clue which of them is infected,

While i stopped that virus back then and fixed most of the damage it did - It infects other executables so multiple files can carry the virus.

I don't remember how my old PC got infected,It was 10 years ago after all.

The virus have never infected my current PC,I prefer to sandbox every thing from my old PC.

A PC Enthusiast since 2011
AMD Ryzen 7 5700X@4.65GHz | GIGABYTE GTX 1660 GAMING OC @ Core 2085MHz Memory 5000MHz
Cinebench R23: 15669cb | Unigine Superposition 1080p Extreme: 3566
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Ah Norton. The Antivirus that let a flash based virus through at my school, and as a result nearly let the entire school network get rekt. School is still using it 12 years later due to long term contracts.

"We also blind small animals with cosmetics.
We do not sell cosmetics. We just blind animals."

 

"Please don't mistake us for Equifax. Those fuckers are evil"

 

This PSA brought to you by Equifacks.
PMSL

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2 hours ago, 12345678 said:

like if official releases weren't ever compromised, nor exploit did exist

And what uses that exploit?

Really, windows defender is more than enough unless you really have no idea what your doing.

I could use some help with this!

please, pm me if you would like to contribute to my gpu bios database (includes overclocking bios, stock bios, and upgrades to gpus via modding)

Bios database

My beautiful, but not that powerful, main PC:

prior build:

Spoiler

 

 

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Future pre-built will come with miner included? Neat

Bet it'll be set to auto run and it's opt out if it's by Dell

 

/s btw, but not the Dell part

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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8 hours ago, poochyena said:

yes, because trusted sources NEVER EVER become compromised.

Very unlikely.

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9 hours ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

And what uses that exploit?

Really, windows defender is more than enough unless you really have no idea what your doing.

Most computer user have no idea what they are doing. 

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