AMD annouces RDNA2 and Zen3 dates

[Salv8 (sam)]

 

[jasonc_01]

3 minutes ago, WereCat said:

 

The more you buy the more you save 

 

1 minute ago, SolarNova said:

Did anyone expect the 3090 or new "titan" to be a dollar less the the RTX titan was? 

 

[Exty]

3 minutes ago, Salv8 (sam) said:

so like today? cause it's the 9th here in australlia so it's the 8th in the U.S?

why didn't they just say, 'details will be reveled later today' or something?

its September right now and the date says October so not tomorrow but in a month unless thats a joke you were trying to make then nvm

[VeganJoy]

5 hours ago, jasonc_01 said:

You say it like if we ask to pay less they'll Listen. In reality we are paying less, the 3090 is a $1000 price reduction and a 3080 ti would be a $200 less than a 2080ti. 

this is literally exactly what they want you to think lmao

 

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[KaitouX]

30 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

nvidia raising prices for one generation has desensitized people to pricing lol. now that theyre dropping prices to what they usually are (still expensive) everyone's like "waow so impressive!!!" like damn they might as well just sell 3070s for 1000 bucks, the 3080 at 1500 and the 3090 at 2500. if amd rolls out actually good cards just be like "oh hey look we've got a 3070 sUpEr" and milk fools for more. its a wonder how turing cards sold so well

People saying that the 3070 is amazing value is pretty weird for me, 2070 Super + 25% performance for the same price doesn't seem that good when the 2070 Super was already pretty overpriced when compared to the 2060(S) and 5700(XT), that's basically putting the price/performance in line(slightly better) with the 2060, which is the minimum I would expect from a new generation, if it was closer to $400 then it could be a great value, but at $500 it's only decent at best in my opinion.

It really feels like that after Turing people expect that a 30% performance improvement should come with a 30% price increase, like the initial Turing GPUs.

[FeIIex]

Just in time for my planned build in november, will delay a little longer if it has a meaningful impact

[Blademaster91]

25 minutes ago, jasonc_01 said:

 

Did anyone expect the 3090 or new "titan" to be a dollar less the the RTX titan was? 

 

Except it's not a "titan" card, and IMO yes it should be the price of the previous Ti card, if Nvidia is ditching the "Ti" tier brand. Nvidia priced the x80 card $200 higher and called it the flagship and people go "wOw iTs sO cHEap" because Nvidia calls their actual flagship tier a "titan" card.

 

[Helpful Tech Witch]

16 minutes ago, KaitouX said:

2070 Super + 25% performance for the same

2070s+25% preformance=/= 2080ti.

[F60Outrunn]

5 hours ago, GDRRiley said:

Summary

Zen3 will be announced on Thursday October 8th a

RDNA2 will be announced on Monday October 28th

both according to AMDs Instagram

 

Quotes

 

My thoughts

Finally I wish they had been earlier in the year but I guess got to wait for Intel and NVIDIA to play their cards

 

Sources

since im not from america and i always forget USA puts the month first for some reason i thought the CPU announcement was gonna be tomorrow, gutted when i realised it was the american date system

[Kilrah]

3 minutes ago, F60Outrunn said:

since im not from america and i always forget USA puts the month first for some reason i thought the CPU announcement was gonna be tomorrow, gutted when i realised it was the american date system

Then that would have been a month ago, not tomorrow. 

 

Also please stop quoting big images in posts.

[Radioactive Snowman]

This couldn't have come at a better time, I was getting ready to buy a 3800x to upgrade from my 2600. 

 

Nvidia 3000 series and Ryzen 4000 series within a few weeks of each other? RIP wallet but im excited

[GionnyBanana]

I can't wait to build my new rig! I hope that those AMD cards will shake up the GPU prices though, just in time for a price drop before I actually pull the trigger

[jasonc_01]

17 minutes ago, Blademaster91 said:

Except it's not a "titan" card, and IMO yes it should be the price of the previous Ti card, if Nvidia is ditching the "Ti" tier brand. Nvidia priced the x80 card $200 higher and called it the flagship and people go "wOw iTs sO cHEap" because Nvidia calls their actual flagship tier a "titan" card.

 

I really think the 3090 is the titan replacement, especially with that much VRAM. I've been wrong before one or twice and this is Nvidia.

 

Where your wrong though is that x80 cards have not gotten a $200 price hike. It has not, I don't under stand why people are so up in arms about this. This is back to 2012.

     Launch                          Adjusted inflation

GTX 680 $499                            $563

GTX 780 $649                            $722

GTX 980 $549                            $600

GTX 1080 $599                          $646

RTX 2080 $699                          $721

RTX 3080 $699

 

The same goes for the x70 cards, except for the launch of the 2070. 

       Launch                               Adjusted inflation

GTX 670 $399                                 $450

GTX 770 $399                                 $444

GTX 970 $329                                 $360

GTX 1070 $379                               $409

RTX 2070 $599 super $499          $618/$515

RTX 3070 $499                               

 

People have this warped perception that Nvidia is drunken sailor raising prices like crazy. The only crazy price gauging they did has been with the 2080ti, the titan but really you know what your getting into and the 2070 at launch was a reach and a slap in the face 7 months later when the 2070 super arrived at $499.

[F60Outrunn]

33 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Then that would have been a month ago, not tomorrow. 

 

Also please stop quoting big images in posts.

i just saw the 10 at the start, and i have never quoted a big image before, dont know if you are implying i have done it before or not.

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

17 minutes ago, jasonc_01 said:

...Inflation...

Thanks! Was just getting curious about inflation adjusted prices, and here you were to scratch that itch. 

[Warin]

3 hours ago, S w a t s o n said:

Fuck off AMD. You make us wait this long just to tease the announcement of an announcement that is long over due. You fucking make us wait a month after zen 3 to get any details on radeon 6000, meanwhile nvidia has launched 3000 series a month earlier.

 

Fuck RTG. Fuck their meme shit. Clearly when they said we'd get the new shit before consoles came out they meant literally days. Because they know that xbox and sony are their real graphics customers. Fuck anyone wanting a discrete card.

 

I'm not waiting for Big Navi at this point. I'll order RTX 3000 and resell if big navi seems worth. Doesnt seem that way yet.

Show us on the doll where AMD hurt you.  

You do understand that AMD has said nothing concrete of the timing of the new products, and likely won't until the 8th and 28th of October, right?  Everything else has been pure rumour.  I am not sure how people speculating on the internet is AMDs fault or concern.

[GDRRiley]

2 hours ago, Rohith_Kumar_Sp said:

by popular you mean it's open source and not a licensed feature. but if the next AMD card has shadowplay its good, nvidia will finally update the feature even more 

also DLSS 2.0 though....
 

that's good, i hope ray tracing is a thing, games have looked the same for too long, held back by consoles games graphically have been stagnant. i want everyone to adopt ray tracing and ditch backed lighting. and yes AMD have had driver issues 

its had their version of shadowplay for years. rx460 and newer I know had it

until it becomes a staple meh

 

their driver stack had a few months of rough going but this was their first time not working with GCN in 10 years.

[Maticks]

Think everyone is a bit over excited I think it will be a ti killer but it will be the 2080ti something like a 20% over that ti. I can't see amd making a leap past Nvidias new release. I want to believe... But did the first zen chip knock Intel out of the game?

It's the next one NVIDIA has to worry about. 2022 is the year not now...

 

[GDRRiley]

1 hour ago, Blademaster91 said:

Except it's not a "titan" card, and IMO yes it should be the price of the previous Ti card, if Nvidia is ditching the "Ti" tier brand. Nvidia priced the x80 card $200 higher and called it the flagship and people go "wOw iTs sO cHEap" because Nvidia calls their actual flagship tier a "titan" card.

 

it is fully a class replacement card. for a long time this was where the titain sat. now the titain is a 3k quadro with no ECC and uses more power.

[SolarNova]

35 minutes ago, jasonc_01 said:

~~SNIP~~

Actually the x80 cards normal price is $500, they only launched at $700 once the 700 series came along, at which point the x80ti cards that released later took the $700 price point and the x80 cards were reduced back down to the normal x80 price point.

600 series and earlier the x80 cards (the top cards of those generations) all sat at roughly $500.

 

So again, x80 cards $500

x80ti $700

 

We can expect a 3080ti 'should' take the $700 price point and the 3080 drop down below that. However since Nvidia pricing of the 20 series, and the 3090 pricing now, its also entirely possible they slot in a 3080ti at $1000, which would be a real FU to consumers.

This is why we need AMD to compete.

[jasonc_01]

13 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

Actually the x80 cards normal price is $500, they only launched at $700 once the 700 series came along, at which point the x80ti cards that released later took the $700 price point and the x80 cards were reduced back down to the normal x80 price point.

600 series and earlier the x80 cards (the top cards of those generations) all sat at roughly $500.

 

So again, x80 cards $500

x80ti $700

 

We can expect a 3080ti 'should' take the $700 price point and the 3080 drop down below that. However since Nvidia pricing of the 20 series, and the 3090 pricing now, its also entirely possible they slot in a 3080ti at $1000, which would be a real FU to consumers.

This is why we need AMD to compete.

The 680 never got a price drop when the 690 was released, the 780 was the only x80 to drop to $500. The 980 price did not change with the release of the 980ti and the 1080 only drop $100 to $599 when the 1080ti was released.

 

I just don't see your argument, not to mention you want to argue it both ways. The launch price is normal the price, it's not the go fuck yourself for buying right away price. You can't say a price drop is the normal price, cause it's not and it only happened twice. In 5 generations over 8 years.

[S w a t s o n]

36 minutes ago, Warin said:

Show us on the doll where AMD hurt you.  

You do understand that AMD has said nothing concrete of the timing of the new products, and likely won't until the 8th and 28th of October, right?  Everything else has been pure rumour.  I am not sure how people speculating on the internet is AMDs fault or concern.

Did I say they said anything? It's quite evident that when they did say something was when any reaction happened so not sure what you are going on about. If you mean the "before consoles" they actually literally did make that comment so ur wrong m8

 

It's AMD's concern to announce the products a month after nvidia already started selling shit.

[SolarNova]

11 minutes ago, jasonc_01 said:

The 680 never got a price drop when the 690 was released, the 780 was the only x80 to drop to $500. The 980 price did not change with the release of the 980ti and the 1080 only drop $100 to $599 when the 1080ti was released.

 

I just don't see your argument, not to mention you want to argue it both ways. The launch price is normal the price, it's not the go fuck yourself for buying right away price. You can't say a price drop is the normal price, cause it's not and it only happened twice. In 5 generations over 8 years.

I didnt want to get into listing all the prices of again , i've done this already in another thread, but so be it.

 

x80 cards

Card - Launch - Post x80ti

780 -    $650    - $500

980-     $550    -$500

1080-    $600    -$500

 

This is the full list of Top end gaming card from 2000. Not including Dual GPU cards like the older x90 cards or the odd overclocked versions like the 8800 Ultra

 

Launch Year ------- GPU ------------ Price ---- With Inflation

 

2000 --- GeForce 2 Ti --------------- $500 ---- $750

2001 --- GeForce 3 Ti500 -----------$350 ----$515

2002 --- GeForce 4 Ti4600 ---------$400-----$575

2003 --- GeForce FX 5950 Ultra ---$500-----$705

2004 --- GeForce 6800 Ultra -------$500 -----$685

2005 --- GeForce 7900 GTX -------$500 -----$665

2006 --- GeForce 8800 GTX -------$600 -----$770

2008 --- GeForce 9800 GTX+ -----$230 -----$275  

2009 --- GeForce GTX 285 --------$400 -----$485

2010 --- GeForce GTX 480 --------$500 -----$600

2011 --- GeForce GTX 580 --------$500 ---- $575

2012 --- GeForce GTX 680  -------$500 -----$565

2013 --- GeForce GTX 780 Ti -----$700 -----$775

2015 --- GeForce GTX 980 Ti ---- $650 -----$710

2017 --- GeForce GTX 1080 Ti ----$700 ----$740

2018 --- GeForce RTX 2080 Ti ---$1200 ---$1230

2020 --- GeForce RTX 3090 ------$1500 --- $1500

 

Whether the 3090 is a Titan or a Gaming card is debatable until Nvidia either release a 3080ti ..or an actual Titan branded card.

[jasonc_01]

10 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

I didnt want to get into listing all the prices of again , i've done this already in another thread, but so be it.

 

x80 cards

Card - Launch - Post x80ti

780 -    $650    - $500

980-     $550    -$500

1080-    $600    -$500

 

This is the full list of Top end gaming card from 2000. Not including Dual GPU cards like the older x90 cards or the odd overclocked versions like the 8800 Ultra

 

Launch Year ------- GPU ------------ Price ---- With Inflation

 

2000 --- GeForce 2 Ti --------------- $500 ---- $750

2001 --- GeForce 3 Ti500 -----------$350 ----$515

2002 --- GeForce 4 Ti4600 ---------$400-----$575

2003 --- GeForce FX 5950 Ultra ---$500-----$705

2004 --- GeForce 6800 Ultra -------$500 -----$685

2005 --- GeForce 7900 GTX -------$500 -----$665

2006 --- GeForce 8800 GTX -------$600 -----$770

2008 --- GeForce 9800 GTX+ -----$230 -----$275  

2009 --- GeForce GTX 285 --------$400 -----$485

2010 --- GeForce GTX 480 --------$500 -----$600

2011 --- GeForce GTX 580 --------$500 ---- $575

2012 --- GeForce GTX 680  -------$500 -----$565

2013 --- GeForce GTX 780 Ti -----$700 -----$775

2015 --- GeForce GTX 980 Ti ---- $650 -----$710

2017 --- GeForce GTX 1080 Ti ----$700 ----$740

2018 --- GeForce RTX 2080 Ti ---$1200 ---$1230

2020 --- GeForce RTX 3090 ------$1500 --- $1500

 

Whether the 3090 is a Titan or a Gaming card is debatable until Nvidia either release a 3080ti ..or an actual Titan branded card

Your choosing to refer to a price drop as "normal price", which I fully disagree with.

 

The only outlier in the list is the 2080ti, kinda been the sentiment for 2 years.. unless Nvidia pull a dick move and launch a titan branded card.

I really doubt this though, there's to much room between the 3080 and 3090 not to have a 3080ti up their sleeve at hopefully $1000 and I don't see room above. I don't think that card is a 3080 20gb, not enough performance for $300. Though maybe there is a 12gb-16gb 3080 forthcoming at $799, I don't think 20gb. I think that 20gb sku is the 3080ti, ready to go is need be sooner than later

 

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[Energycore]

Now it makes sense why they started at 5000 series

 

So that Radeon products and Ryzen products don't get confused (Imagine if there was a Radeon 3600XT)

 

Also, this counts of an announcement of an announcement. Guess we gotta wait for October so we know how much we have to wait afterward.