Intel renames their Kaby Lake Pentiums

[NumLock21]

The people over at Intel has too much time on their hands and decided to rename their Kaby Lake Pentium brand from Pentium to Pentium Gold. This is the same naming scheme, they did with their Intel Xeon Scalable processor, where it comes in Xeon Platinum, Gold, Silver, and Bronze. For the Pentium line up, Pentium Gold will be that the very top, while their SoC code name "Gemini Lake" will be branded as Pentium Silver. Celeron will keep its name and will not be renamed to Celeron bronze or anything. There is zero difference between the old Kaby Lake Pentium compared to the "new" Kaby Lake Pentium Gold. What you do get is a new cpu sticker with a gold trim and a the word "Pentium Gold" on the cpu box.

 

 

 

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/237577/intel-to-rebrand-pentium-kaby-lake-processors-as-pentium-gold

[ravenshrike]

Oh hey, look, further evidence that Intel's gameplan is to foist their server side upgrade schemes onto the rest of the market.

[Moress]

2 minutes ago, ravenshrike said:

Oh hey, look, further evidence that Intel's gameplan is to foist their server side upgrade schemes onto the rest of the market.

Unless you're a moron who would buy a pentium over something else because "Oh it says GOLD is must be good!" then the changing in the names really doesn't matter at all.

[Bananasplit_00]

can you not Intel?

[DildorTheDecent]

Right lads lets not freak out too much. 

 

You're not buying this anyway. Stop pretending to care pls. 

[Streetguru]

8 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

 

Why they make anything lower than 2c/4th is beyond me.

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

Right lads lets not freak out too much. 

 

You're not buying this anyway. Stop pretending to care pls. 

Agree. Why the f would I care about a renamed dual core CPU.

[Coaxialgamer]

6 minutes ago, Moress said:

Unless you're a moron who would buy a pentium over something else because "Oh it says GOLD is must be good!" then the changing in the names really doesn't matter at all.

that's not actually that inconceivable. For many mainstream users , the pentium brand still resonates as high end .  

[Drak3]

5 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Why they make anything lower than 2c/4th is beyond me.

Not every task benefits come more than 2c/2t.

[GDRRiley]

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Agree. Why the f would I care about a renamed dual core CPU.

because these are basically current i3s at a lower price.

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Not every task benefits come more than 2c/2t.

But it's 2017.

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Not every task benefits come more than 2c/2t.

For those tasks I wouldnt consider a new chip at all. Old and used OEM desktops can do the job at much lower prices.

[Bananasplit_00]

15 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

Right lads lets not freak out too much. 

 

You're not buying this anyway. Stop pretending to care pls. 

while i agree to some extent this just makes it more annoying IMO

[Mira Yurizaki]

5 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

But it's 2017.

I'm sure Microsoft Word 2024 will benefit from my 16C/32T processor. Gotta get that letter out on the screen 0.001ns sooner.

[NumLock21]

5 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

I'm sure Microsoft Word 2024 will benefit from my 16C/32T processor. Gotta get that letter out on the screen 0.001ns sooner.

Excel can support more than 16C/32T. Forgot what the maximium was. Needs more cores for number crunching!

[Mira Yurizaki]

Just now, NumLock21 said:

Excel can support more than 16C/32T. Forgot what the maximium was. Needs more cores for number crunching!

Let me know when it can open two files with the same name at the same time.

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

I'm sure Microsoft Word 2024 will benefit from my 16C/32T processor. Gotta get that letter out on the screen 0.001ns sooner.

It's more why are they even releasing them? Everyone could use more than 2 threads. The bar should have been raised every generation not kept at the same level.

[Mira Yurizaki]

3 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

It's more why are they even releasing them? Everyone could use more than 2 threads. The bar should have been raised every generation not kept at the same level.

No, the bar for requirements should lower. When you work smarter by making everything work more efficiently rather than let Moore's Law take care of it, everyone benefits.

 

You only resort to multithreading when:

• You actually have an embarrassingly parallel problem
• All other options to squeeze more performance out take more effort.

Multithreading isn't an easy thing to. There are plenty of pitfalls that make it easy to screw things up.

 

EDIT: Though multitasking is a valid use case.

[NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle]

Great way to confuse people there, Intel. Fantastic work.

Oh and I presume AMD will now add the word Gold to their line up as well.

Way to go Intel.

 

 

 

[Guest]

Just now, NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle said:

Great way to confuse people there, Intel. Fantastic work.

Oh and I presume AMD will now add the word Gold to their line up as well.

Way to go Intel.

 

 

 

Nope. AMD Ruby. Get it. Cause. Its red.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll show myself the door now.

[Drak3]

8 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

But it's 2017.

And?

 

22 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

For those tasks I wouldnt consider a new chip at all. Old and used OEM desktops can do the job at much lower prices.

I worked for a company called Biomark. They had a CNC working off an old quadcore, likely an early gen i5. They moved to a 2c/2t Sky pentium, and came to find out, the faster single core perf of that pentium relieved a bottleneck that the old system was.

[Streetguru]

20 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

And?

There are uses for that tier of CPU, but it shouldn't be in desktops anymore, should be soldered onto cheap BGA all in one boards and sold for like $99 for CPU/Mobo/4GB of RAM

[goodtofufriday]

43 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Excel can support more than 16C/32T. Forgot what the maximium was. Needs more cores for number crunching!

Seriously people do no realize how cpu and ram intensive Excel can be in an enterprise environment. When i was hired one thing to fix was "slow excel" 

Turned out everyone had 32bit excel installed which can only utilize 2gb of ram. 

[NumLock21]

26 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

Seriously people do no realize how cpu and ram intensive Excel can be in an enterprise environment. When i was hired one thing to fix was "slow excel" 

Turned out everyone had 32bit excel installed which can only utilize 2gb of ram. 

Well a lot of user just runs setup.exe and that will automatically install 32bit.

[Mira Yurizaki]

32 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

Seriously people do no realize how cpu and ram intensive Excel can be in an enterprise environment. When i was hired one thing to fix was "slow excel" 

Turned out everyone had 32bit excel installed which can only utilize 2gb of ram. 

Most people don't use Excel in that kind of use case, so I don't blame them.

42 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

There are uses for that tier of CPU, but it shouldn't be in desktops anymore, should be soldered onto cheap BGA all in one boards and sold for like $99 for CPU/Mobo/4GB of RAM

And then people are going to complain that Intel is further giving customers the shaft because now they can't change their CPU.