Intel renames their Kaby Lake Pentiums

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

 

They already make boards for that market, it just lacks RAM, I don't know if they've made any from this generation though.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157497

[Mira Yurizaki]

Just now, Streetguru said:

They already make boards for that market, it just lacks RAM, I don't know if they've made any from this generation though.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157497

It uses the Celeron J1900 chip, which is basically the top-end Atom processor (well there's an oxymoron if I ever heard one). And it's no where near the performance of say a Pentium G4560 (see https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+G4560+%40+3.50GHz  vs. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+J1900+%40+1.99GHz)

[dexT]

Intel HQ: 

 

[Coaxialgamer]

1 hour ago, Streetguru said:

But it's 2017.

because it's cheap , people will buy it at that price . 

 

What's more , you need to find some way of selling those bottom-of-the-barrel chips , right?

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

 

Right, so they should throw the dual cores that don't really need to exist anymore into that market and actually sell a good amount of them. Though I suppose a lot still go to OEM systems. There's also no reason they can't offer an overclocking dual core like the G3258 if that were the case, and allow for OCing on lower end boards for it. Aside from wanting to milk customers of course.

[TidaLWaveZ]

1 hour ago, DildorTheDecent said:

Right lads lets not freak out too much. 

 

You're not buying this anyway. Stop pretending to care pls. 

The rise of the professional victim.

[Mira Yurizaki]

5 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Right, so they should throw the dual cores that don't really need to exist anymore into that market and actually sell a good amount of them. Though I suppose a lot still go to OEM systems. There's also no reason they can't offer an overclocking dual core like the G3258 if that were the case, and allowing OCing on lower end boards for it. Aside from wanting to milk customers of course.

Because mom and pop shops will OC the chip then try to sell it off as a better model. The average consumer doesn't know how to verify which CPU they have so they'll believe it. This is also why unlocked multipliers existed only on higher end models. Plus running out of spec is bound to cause issues sooner or later.

 

You can argue this all day, but the fact remains there will always be a bottom tier available and the fact it exists means there's a market for it.

[Jito463]

3 hours ago, VegetableStu said:

AMD Crimson. Oh wait screw it AMD ROSE BLOOD APPLE FIRETRUCK COMMUNIST BRICK RUST

That right there is the reason I always cringe a little when I see the AMD "Better Red" posters, heh.

[MeDownYou]

3 hours ago, Abyss Gaming said:

Nope. AMD Ruby. Get it. Cause. Its red.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll show myself the door now.

Cuz Ruby is associated with gpus and a hawt Radeon ati ruby

 

I'll see myself out as well...

[thorhammerz]

4 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Why they make anything lower than 2c/4th is beyond me.

Because not all chips are good / stable enough at the factory to do 4c/4t, so a CPU manufacturer may decide to laser/cut off defective cores and sell them as 2c/4t (or 2c/2t).

 

It's much more economical (they can at least recover costs, albeit with a lower profit margin) than throwing the entire thing into the garbage (and treating the entire thing as a write-off)..... which is something investors like .

[Streetguru]

14 minutes ago, thorhammerz said:

Because not all chips are good / stable enough at the factory to do 4c/4t, so a CPU manufacturer may decide to laser/cut off defective cores and sell them as 2c/4t (or 2c/2t).

 

It's much more economical (they can at least recover costs, albeit with a lower profit margin) than throwing the entire thing into the garbage (and treating the entire thing as a write-off)..... which is something investors like .

The i5s are cut down i7s, the i3s are made to be i3s, and then it's cut down from there.

 

I'm just saying dual cores have no place on the desktop market. A forum member from here made the mistake of buying a 2c/2t chip, and now he's basically screwed.

[thorhammerz]

1 hour ago, Streetguru said:

I'm just saying dual cores have no place on the desktop market. A forum member from here made the mistake of buying a 2c/2t chip, and now he's basically screwed.

Oh, I do not dispute that they are useless from an informed consumer's perspective  from many consumer's perspectives.
 

However, looking at it from the manufacturer's perspective, it is still a viable business decision (allowing the uninformed customers to purchase chips they otherwise would not sell and completely write off.... money is money).

 

Even if they sell only 25% (arbitrary number pulled from ass) of those otherwise useless cut-down-from-i3s 2c/2t chips, that's still 25% less chips they'd otherwise have to write off.

[Dabombinable]

4 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said:

that's not actually that inconceivable. For many mainstream users , the pentium brand still resonates as high end .  

Really, fuck the Pentium 4 for trashing the Pentium name (I really love my Pentium M770 and 2x PIII 1000).

[Coaxialgamer]

28 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Really, fuck the Pentium 4 for trashing the Pentium name (I really love my Pentium M770 and 2x PIII 1000).

Banias 4 lyfe (and dothan) 

[79wjd]

43 minutes ago, thorhammerz said:

Oh, I do not dispute that they are useless from an informed consumer's perspective.

That's still not accurate. Not everyone needs more power, there are plenty of people who simply don't, but they may need a new computer. So if someone needs a new computer, and they wouldn't benefit at all from a quad core over a dual core, then a quad core based system is just a waste of money. 

[Drak3]

1 hour ago, Streetguru said:

just saying dual cores have no place on the desktop market. A forum member from here made the mistake of buying a 2c/2t chip, and now he's basically screwed.

Thin clients, like basic HTPCs, don't benefit from anything more than 2c/2t.

 

If it weren't for the fact that my "HT"PC is first and foremost a light gaming rig and primarily for emulation, it'd be a 2c/2t box running a light Linux distro and Kodi.

[Curufinwe_wins]

I don't actually mind this personally since current gen pentiums = skylake i3

[Mira Yurizaki]

If all you need to do is go on the internet to check your email, browse social media, and watch the occasional YouTube video, 2C/2T systems are fine.

[Loot]

yeah but rather have at minimum 4c/4t  maybe pentium platinum for 30$ more ? haha

[Shreyas1]

I guess there will be no more insider jokes

[Otokar Marek]

Excuse my poor English. I am think everyone is not value power of gold/silver/bronze label. It is the application of golidlocks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldilocks_principle

This should help sell product better than old stock keep unit label they have.

[79wjd]

1 hour ago, Loot said:

yeah but rather have at minimum 4c/4t  maybe pentium platinum for 30$ more ? haha

If I only needed the power of a 2 cores (now and in the forseeable future), then I'd rather save the $30. That's especially true for any business/bulk purchase.

[TetraSky]

Pentium... gold? How tacky...

[NumLock21]

Names for the rest of their cpus leaked!

 

Core i3 Bronze

Core i5 Tin

Core i7 Gypsum

Core i9 Charcoal

 

[Ryujin2003]

On 10/4/2017 at 12:15 PM, Moress said:

Unless you're a moron who would buy a pentium over something else because "Oh it says GOLD is must be good!" then the changing in the names really doesn't matter at all.

You over estimate the mass sheople. Have you ever taken an Intel retail edge course? They market the shit out of everything.

 

Pentium Gold: Get the most out of Ultra Megatasking.

 

People Eat that shit right up.