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SSDs as low as 0.08$ per gb in 2019?

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According to a DigiTimes report citing "industry sources" this week, NAND flash prices are expected to continue to drop in 2019 after already seeing a 50 percent drop this year. Earlier reports said that SSD prices could fall to as low as $0.08 per GB in 2019. 

This continues the trend in dropping SSD prices we've been seeing so far.

However, the introduction of 96 Layer SSDs will additionally lower costs.

 

Unfortunately RAM will not be affected because chipmakers are being a bitch:

 

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The same price drops don’t seem to be expected in the DRAM market, primarily because there seems to be less competition there. The top three DRAM chipmakers (Samsung, SK Hynix and Micron) don’t intend to expand the capacity too much in 2019, even though there will be increased demand for DRAM for gaming systems, data centers and the automotive industry, according to Chen.

 

Here's hoping for cheap SSDs!

Now, if RAM prices would come down, I might even buy an RTX card some day :P 

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woah, $20 256GB SSDs sounds sweet

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12 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

woah, $20 256GB SSDs sounds sweet

I wouldn't be that optimistic, especially after many OEMs have been found to fix/inflate prices. We know that many Chinese companies are about to join in production, but I can't see $0.08 as realistic. 

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Hope it's not going to be for QLC drives only. Even TLC is a bit of a stretch to me.

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I'm not quite sure if this is only applicable to the certain type of solid-state drive intertrasfer technologies, where there are a number of different elements that can affect manufacturing cost. Like will just the Nand fabrication be cheaper in 2019? and will that be to just the TLC and QLCs or the entire line-up will see a down including low-bandwidth sata 3 drives.

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52 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

woah, $20 256GB SSDs sounds sweet

expect minimum capacity to go up and prices to stay the same for the low end. You can currently get a ~120GB SSD for about 25-27$ and a 240-256 for about 35-37, eventually it will be that the 240 will be 25$ (or higher) and it will be the lowest capacity available. 
Remember, the cost per GB goes up in the very low end and the high end. 

We're starting to see 2TB come close to the cost per GB of drives in the "sweet spot" and I hope that continues for even higher capacities in the future. I want to buy less individual SSDs to get a large capacity at a decent price, and I eventually want to move my file server to solid state mostly as well, and if 4TB drives become reasonable cost per GB like we're at with 2TB right now, I might do that soon. 

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Gaming and HTPC (reparations)- ASUS 1080, MSI X99A SLI Plus, 5820k- 4.5GHz @ 1.25v, asetek based 360mm AIO, RM 1000x, 16GB memory, 750D with front USB 2.0 replaced with 3.0  ports, 2 250GB 850 EVOs in Raid 0 (why not, only has games on it), some hard drives

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Stuff- Epicgear defiant (solderless swappable switches), g600, moutned mic and other stuff. 

Laptop docking area- 2 1440p korean monitors mounted, one AHVA matte, one samsung PLS gloss (very annoying, yes). Trashy Razer blackwidow chroma...I mean like the J key doesn't click anymore. I got a model M i use on it to, but its time for a new keyboard. Some edgy Utechsmart mouse similar to g600. Hooked to laptop dock for both of my dell precision laptops. (not only docking area)

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What do I want? 

 

Cheaper SSDs!

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1 minute ago, Mihle said:

What do I want? 

 

Cheaper SSDs!

cheap memory wants a word with you out back 

muh specs 

Gaming and HTPC (reparations)- ASUS 1080, MSI X99A SLI Plus, 5820k- 4.5GHz @ 1.25v, asetek based 360mm AIO, RM 1000x, 16GB memory, 750D with front USB 2.0 replaced with 3.0  ports, 2 250GB 850 EVOs in Raid 0 (why not, only has games on it), some hard drives

Screens- Acer preditor XB241H (1080p, 144Hz Gsync), LG 1080p ultrawide, (all mounted) directly wired to TV in other room

Stuff- k70 with reds, steel series rival, g13, full desk covering mouse mat

All parts black

Workstation(desk)- 3770k, 970 reference, 16GB of some crucial memory, a motherboard of some kind I don't remember, Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI, CM Storm Trooper (It's got a handle, can you handle that?), 240mm Asetek based AIO, Crucial M550 256GB (upgrade soon), some hard drives, disc drives, and hot swap bays

Screens- 3  ASUS VN248H-P IPS 1080p screens mounted on a stand, some old tv on the wall above it. 

Stuff- Epicgear defiant (solderless swappable switches), g600, moutned mic and other stuff. 

Laptop docking area- 2 1440p korean monitors mounted, one AHVA matte, one samsung PLS gloss (very annoying, yes). Trashy Razer blackwidow chroma...I mean like the J key doesn't click anymore. I got a model M i use on it to, but its time for a new keyboard. Some edgy Utechsmart mouse similar to g600. Hooked to laptop dock for both of my dell precision laptops. (not only docking area)

Shelf- i7-2600 non-k (has vt-d), 380t, some ASUS sandy itx board, intel quad nic. Currently hosts shared files, setting up as pfsense box in VM. Also acts as spare gaming PC with a 580 or whatever someone brings. Hooked into laptop dock area via usb switch

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I got my 128gb samsung ssd for $25. Not that bad of a deal, but I'm in Australia after all!

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1 minute ago, PC_Master said:

I got my 128gb samsung ssd for $25. Not that bad of a deal, but I'm in Australia after all!

that's about 18 us, wow. 

We're on the 25-27$ for 120-128GB for some brand right now, idk about samsung 

muh specs 

Gaming and HTPC (reparations)- ASUS 1080, MSI X99A SLI Plus, 5820k- 4.5GHz @ 1.25v, asetek based 360mm AIO, RM 1000x, 16GB memory, 750D with front USB 2.0 replaced with 3.0  ports, 2 250GB 850 EVOs in Raid 0 (why not, only has games on it), some hard drives

Screens- Acer preditor XB241H (1080p, 144Hz Gsync), LG 1080p ultrawide, (all mounted) directly wired to TV in other room

Stuff- k70 with reds, steel series rival, g13, full desk covering mouse mat

All parts black

Workstation(desk)- 3770k, 970 reference, 16GB of some crucial memory, a motherboard of some kind I don't remember, Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI, CM Storm Trooper (It's got a handle, can you handle that?), 240mm Asetek based AIO, Crucial M550 256GB (upgrade soon), some hard drives, disc drives, and hot swap bays

Screens- 3  ASUS VN248H-P IPS 1080p screens mounted on a stand, some old tv on the wall above it. 

Stuff- Epicgear defiant (solderless swappable switches), g600, moutned mic and other stuff. 

Laptop docking area- 2 1440p korean monitors mounted, one AHVA matte, one samsung PLS gloss (very annoying, yes). Trashy Razer blackwidow chroma...I mean like the J key doesn't click anymore. I got a model M i use on it to, but its time for a new keyboard. Some edgy Utechsmart mouse similar to g600. Hooked to laptop dock for both of my dell precision laptops. (not only docking area)

Shelf- i7-2600 non-k (has vt-d), 380t, some ASUS sandy itx board, intel quad nic. Currently hosts shared files, setting up as pfsense box in VM. Also acts as spare gaming PC with a 580 or whatever someone brings. Hooked into laptop dock area via usb switch

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6 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

cheap memory wants a word with you out back 

I want that too.

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It matters that you don't just give up.”

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Just now, Mihle said:

I want that too.

i dont even want cheap memory- I just want it back to where it WAS. SSDs are cheaper than ever, I just want memory back to where it WAS ffs 

muh specs 

Gaming and HTPC (reparations)- ASUS 1080, MSI X99A SLI Plus, 5820k- 4.5GHz @ 1.25v, asetek based 360mm AIO, RM 1000x, 16GB memory, 750D with front USB 2.0 replaced with 3.0  ports, 2 250GB 850 EVOs in Raid 0 (why not, only has games on it), some hard drives

Screens- Acer preditor XB241H (1080p, 144Hz Gsync), LG 1080p ultrawide, (all mounted) directly wired to TV in other room

Stuff- k70 with reds, steel series rival, g13, full desk covering mouse mat

All parts black

Workstation(desk)- 3770k, 970 reference, 16GB of some crucial memory, a motherboard of some kind I don't remember, Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI, CM Storm Trooper (It's got a handle, can you handle that?), 240mm Asetek based AIO, Crucial M550 256GB (upgrade soon), some hard drives, disc drives, and hot swap bays

Screens- 3  ASUS VN248H-P IPS 1080p screens mounted on a stand, some old tv on the wall above it. 

Stuff- Epicgear defiant (solderless swappable switches), g600, moutned mic and other stuff. 

Laptop docking area- 2 1440p korean monitors mounted, one AHVA matte, one samsung PLS gloss (very annoying, yes). Trashy Razer blackwidow chroma...I mean like the J key doesn't click anymore. I got a model M i use on it to, but its time for a new keyboard. Some edgy Utechsmart mouse similar to g600. Hooked to laptop dock for both of my dell precision laptops. (not only docking area)

Shelf- i7-2600 non-k (has vt-d), 380t, some ASUS sandy itx board, intel quad nic. Currently hosts shared files, setting up as pfsense box in VM. Also acts as spare gaming PC with a 580 or whatever someone brings. Hooked into laptop dock area via usb switch

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4 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

that's about 18 us, wow. 

We're on the 25-27$ for 120-128GB for some brand right now, idk about samsung 

I got it from a facebook bss group, mind you, postage was included in the price. And....... I paid $38 for my wd green 120gb ssd from ebay (AUD), so it definitely pays to look around on the used market.

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28 minutes ago, PC_Master said:

I got it from a facebook bss group, mind you, postage was included in the price. And....... I paid $38 for my wd green 120gb ssd from ebay (AUD), so it definitely pays to look around on the used market.

oh used ok that makes sense. Yah at these prices it's stupid to buy a 120GB ssd for anything but a pfsense box or something, which is what my only 120GB will be repurposed for soon. Most of my ssds 240 or 480 range, finally about to buy some TB ones. Prices have been so great lately. 

muh specs 

Gaming and HTPC (reparations)- ASUS 1080, MSI X99A SLI Plus, 5820k- 4.5GHz @ 1.25v, asetek based 360mm AIO, RM 1000x, 16GB memory, 750D with front USB 2.0 replaced with 3.0  ports, 2 250GB 850 EVOs in Raid 0 (why not, only has games on it), some hard drives

Screens- Acer preditor XB241H (1080p, 144Hz Gsync), LG 1080p ultrawide, (all mounted) directly wired to TV in other room

Stuff- k70 with reds, steel series rival, g13, full desk covering mouse mat

All parts black

Workstation(desk)- 3770k, 970 reference, 16GB of some crucial memory, a motherboard of some kind I don't remember, Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI, CM Storm Trooper (It's got a handle, can you handle that?), 240mm Asetek based AIO, Crucial M550 256GB (upgrade soon), some hard drives, disc drives, and hot swap bays

Screens- 3  ASUS VN248H-P IPS 1080p screens mounted on a stand, some old tv on the wall above it. 

Stuff- Epicgear defiant (solderless swappable switches), g600, moutned mic and other stuff. 

Laptop docking area- 2 1440p korean monitors mounted, one AHVA matte, one samsung PLS gloss (very annoying, yes). Trashy Razer blackwidow chroma...I mean like the J key doesn't click anymore. I got a model M i use on it to, but its time for a new keyboard. Some edgy Utechsmart mouse similar to g600. Hooked to laptop dock for both of my dell precision laptops. (not only docking area)

Shelf- i7-2600 non-k (has vt-d), 380t, some ASUS sandy itx board, intel quad nic. Currently hosts shared files, setting up as pfsense box in VM. Also acts as spare gaming PC with a 580 or whatever someone brings. Hooked into laptop dock area via usb switch

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I'd be inclined to replace all my HDDs 

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Cheap enough flash and I'll replace my 500 GB boot drive with a 2 TB model, throw that 500 GB in my NAS as a caching drive. Would be sick.

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I hope it's sooner rather than later that I can replace all 35 or 40 of my HDDs of various sizes with 8 or 16+TB SSDs, AND, pay less per SSD than I did for the HDDs.  (Largest HDD I have is 10 TB, smallest is 8.4GB.  Best deal I got in the last few years was 2x 5TB for 2x $100 Black Friday 2016.)

 

Also, while I'm okay with them not having super awesome 4K performance (20-30k IOPS would be fine), I would like the sequential write performance to not fall off a cliff after a certain time / amount written per session.  (I want to be able to write the entire drive without slowdowns, of course depending on the source.)

 

Also I need them to have exceptional endurance, for example several petabytes endurance per terabyte capacity at minimum.  I have some mechanical IDE HDDs that are approaching 17-20 years old, some of which still work.  I could see keeping SSDs that long, although by then they'd not be in daily use anymore.

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4 hours ago, Bouzoo said:

but I can't see $0.08 as realistic

It's probably just the raw NAND chip cost from suppliers, need to add on SSD controller + DRAM + markup.

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44 minutes ago, leadeater said:

It's probably just the raw NAND chip cost from suppliers, need to add on SSD controller + DRAM + markup.

I hope it provides enough competition to push optane prices down.

 

Edit: I wouldn't mind a 512 GB optane drive for a $129 like the Intel 760p.

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Should I upgrade from SATA SSDs to NVMe ones as a gamer? Is the jump in performance worth the higher cost?

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1 minute ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

if that happens Optane will be dead in no time, cheers!

Optane is far from dead. It's being implemented in data centers in large scales. It's working it's way to consumers, but as with all technologies, it has a trickle down effect.

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very soon if not already there will be no reason for the avg user to have a hard disk. 

wow.

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