New Huawei OTA will make phones with Magisk (root) not boot, even the ones that are already rooted

[Bouzoo]

So this is a big huge f*** you from Huawei to the people that like to take some freedom and play with their phones. While this may not mean a lot to most of users, it will affect many people in their communities. This is the info from Magisk creator himself:

 

Needless to say that the people are furious and calling for boycott on their devices. 

https://www.irishtech.ie/huawei-community-unlock-dismember/

 

In the article it is mentioned that a recent update on the P9 actually detects if your device has been modified. 

 

It should be in their interest to make communities happy and for people to support their devices, which is one od the reason why they grew so big, you could actually recommend theim. They are not entitled to do so, but bricking devices because someone rotted them is some next level bs. 

Needless to say that this comes just days after the DSLR incident, just to put even more dirt on their name. 

 

[dcgreen2k]

What's the point of doing something like this? Are they just trying to pull an Apple and become less consumer-friendly at this point?

[S w a t s o n]

After this and the background applications fiasco I'm definitely straying away from a huawei phone for the conceivable future.

[Mr.Dingle]

I dont follow , why is rooting such a big thing ? 

 

I have a Honor 8 btw , perfectly happy with it as is . 

[GoldenLag]

well goddamn Huawei. i had high hopes for you, but you just keep letting me down. 

 

at least their highest end laptop is decent

[GoldenLag]

Just now, Mr.Dingle said:

I dont follow , why is rooting such a big thing ? 

 

I have a Honor 8 btw , perfectly happy with it as is . 

rooting is big for older devices to continue the life of the phone, not to mention much wider access to what the phone can actually do. 

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, Mr.Dingle said:

I dont follow , why is rooting such a big thing ? 

Cos Android 3rd party ROM community is large.

 

[PlayStation 2]

Looks like I’m crossing Huawei off the list of whenever I get my first Android phone. 

[Bouzoo]

18 minutes ago, Mr.Dingle said:

I dont follow , why is rooting such a big thing ? 

 

I have a Honor 8 btw , perfectly happy with it as is . 

You can remove all manufacturer and carrier bloatware, install pure android without the manufacturer skins, and also with that install updates and security patches as soon as they are released, not wait for months for them. You can install android roms that weren't released for phones because of discountinued support. You can install apps with functions you could not use on locked devices.

[rcmaehl]

1 hour ago, Mr.Dingle said:

I dont follow , why is rooting such a big thing ?

A lot devices don't get more than one android update and 2-3 minor updates. Even more don't get a major update. And a notable amount of devices don't get updates at all. The community has made up for lazy companies that don't care about user security and only their own money by porting updates to rooted devices using ROMs like LineageOS. I'm running Android Oreo on my S5 currently and will likely be getting Android Pie within a few months. This can't be said for any S5 that wasn't rooted.

[goodtofufriday]

Im taking a shot in the dark here but I believe this may be due to the new chinese law that requires all chinese companies to assist in its surveillance efforts globally. Rooting a phone and adding a 3rd party rom would not allow Huawei to do that.

[suicidalfranco]

1 hour ago, Mr.Dingle said:

I dont follow , why is rooting such a big thing ? 

 

I have a Honor 8 btw , perfectly happy with it as is . 

> looks at six year old undervolted, over clocked, nougat powered Galaxy Note 2

I don't know, some people just like to do as they see fit with the stuff they legit bought and no manufacturer should have a say on the matter

 

Scum move number 2 from Huawei in the last 3 months, already stopped considering them when they decided to stop giving bootloader unlock codes, now they can go burn in a fire for all i care. Let the US ban them completely, hopefully the Eu will do the same one day.

[Mr.Dingle]

Damn i need to spam those i for informative ...

 

I cant say im bothered by this but , by what i understood its a bad move.

 

Which is bad since i really like their stuff.

[DrMacintosh]

I was about to show how little I use Android. Normally I would have said, why did you root the device......then I remembered that 3rd party versions of Android are usually, really bad. 

 

 

[8uhbbhu8]

Whelp.... No Huawei for me  Was really looking forward to getting the next Mate..... Not happening now

[ScratchCat]

26 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

Im taking a shot in the dark here but I believe this may be due to the new chinese law that requires all chinese companies to assist in its surveillance efforts globally. Rooting a phone and adding a 3rd party rom would not allow Huawei to do that.

Do you have evidence for that? It would fully believe this given the authorities dedication to the Golden Shield (Great Firewall) project and their behaviour in the north west.

 

Ideally a third party security company would have to verify these claims.

[Spongy141]

2 hours ago, thegreengamers said:

What's the point of doing something like this? Are they just trying to pull an Apple and become less consumer-friendly at this point?

Based on Apples success, they are probably assuming this is what the consumer wants, less freedom.

[ARikozuM]

12 minutes ago, Spongy141 said:

Based on Apples success, they are probably assuming this is what the consumer wants, less freedom.

It would help if Android had useful first-party apps. iOS doesn't really have "less freedom" aside from lack of emulation support for GBA. I wouldn't mind if Android doubled down on restricting their hardware a little more. 

 

By "first-party" I mean whoever manufactures the phone. #SamsungisShit

[kelvinhall05]

3 hours ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Looks like I’m crossing Huawei off the list of whenever I get my first Android phone. 

Get a Xiaomi if you want a Chinese phone. There's literally nothing to dislike (except if you're one of those people who won't buy something that doesn't come with a warranty since global variants of their phones don't come with one).

[Drak3]

3 hours ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Looks like I’m crossing Huawei off the list of whenever I get my first Android phone. 

There was no reason to have Huawei on that list to begin with. They're just another dime a dozen Android manufacturers that produce phones with no outstanding features that aren't just gimmicks. Which is sad because phones like the Ascend Q/ M660 and the Ascend/ M860 were stellar options back in the Gingerbread days.

 

 

God I hate phones today.

[Arika]

don't care, i don't root my devices anyway. still perfectly happy with my huawei mate 8

[Bouzoo]

29 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

There was no reason to have Huawei on that list to begin with. They're just another dime a dozen Android manufacturers that produce phones with no outstanding features that aren't just gimmicks. Which is sad because phones like the Ascend Q/ M660 and the Ascend/ M860 were stellar options back in the Gingerbread days.

 

 

God I hate phones today.

To be fair, they have had few very good phones. It's the software side where the problem is. There is almost no reason not to go with Mate 10 Pro for the current price. 

The problem was that you could barely buy those phones in GB days. I mean, it was the time when HTC Wildfire and Galaxy Ace were good mid range phones. Huawei was non existent. 

[Sniperfox47]

2 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

I was about to show how little I use Android. Normally I would have said, why did you root the device......then I remembered that 3rd party versions of Android are usually, really bad. 

 

 

I hope you realize that the kind of things users root their phones to do you also need to get root on iOS, Windows Phone, MacOS, Windows, ChromeOS or desktop GNU/Linux distros too >.>

 

The only real difference is that on desktop operating systems they provide tools to get root access (UAC on Windows or administrator prompts on MacOS)

[ZacoAttaco]

Did they give a reason for this move? Like was already mentioned, I assume it's some Chinese Government security regulation on the company but I'm not sure.

[DrMacintosh]

2 hours ago, Sniperfox47 said:

I hope you realize that the kind of things users root their phones to do you also need to get root on iOS, Windows Phone, MacOS, Windows, ChromeOS or desktop GNU/Linux distros too >.>

And essentially all of those things are, imo, foolish.