So apparently, the Intel/Radeon marriage is a thing that's happening

[Ryujin2003]

Right before AMD signed a deal with Tesla for compute chips for AI, a bunch of engineers resigned and were hired by Tesla for the same project.. .

[zberry7]

This is some of the most interesting news we’ve had in a while imo. Can’t wait to hear what Linus has to say on this topic. I wish intel was able to get into full discrete GPUs, it would be amazing to have a third competitor in the space. Then have nvidia start making CPUs and we will have a computing revolution lol.

 

edit: just saw a news article from annandtech that intel will make high end discrete gpus!! This is sweet  

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12017/intel-to-develop-discrete-gpus-hires-raja-koduri-as-chief-architect

[WereCat]

I am biased a lot so I approve this. My favourite colour is violet and Team blue + Team red = ??? 

[Phentos]

Can't help but think that the dumpster fire of Vega is what caused him to jump ship, PR language aside.

 

At this point I don't recommend Vega to anyone at all. Having used Freesync myself for the better part of a year, I'll contend that it is overrated. It does not prevent choppiness and microstutter, which is much MUCH more noticeable than tearing (YMMV of course). Both of the former issues I had been plagued with when I had my R9 Fury. 

 

I mean don't get me wrong... adaptive refresh rate is nice and all that, but Freesync should not be the sole deciding factor to make one purchase an inferior GPU. 

 

Currently saving up for a high end ultrawide G-sync monitor myself, though it might have to wait until I actually get into my desired career field next year.

[TidaLWaveZ]

26 minutes ago, The Owl said:

So this was a trade, Raja for AMD + Intel partnership

I'd say intel got the best of that deal

 

[Taf the Ghost]

2 minutes ago, Phentos said:

Can't help but think that the dumpster fire of Vega is what caused him to jump ship, PR language aside.

 

At this point I don't recommend Vega to anyone at all. Having used Freesync myself for the better part of a year, I'll contend that it is overrated. It does not prevent choppiness and microstutter, which is much MUCH more noticeable than tearing (YMMV of course). Both of the former issues I had been plagued with when I had my R9 Fury. 

 

I mean don't get me wrong... adaptive refresh rate is nice and all that, but Freesync should not be the sole deciding factor to make one purchase an inferior GPU. 

 

Currently saving up for a high end ultrawide G-sync monitor myself, though it might have to wait until I actually get into my desired career field next year.

RX Vega is simply clocked too high and a bunch of the new tech simply isn't turned on, beyond the HBM2 issues and, apparently, yield problems as well. The Vega 56 is a good purchase at MSRP, but the 64 just isn't much uplift for the cost difference. 

 

But those points are also probably why Raja is pursuing other opportunities.

[Nowak]

Direct from Intel:

https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/raja-koduri-joins-intel/

[ARikozuM]

Nvidia recently released their Star Wars-inspired Titans and when Raja had to decide, he chose Blue! [GASP]

 

Raja Koduri, the clumsy, lovable nerd we all know, has recently stepped down from AMD's Radeon Technologies Group. We all laughed at the possibility of him joining the blue team, but he actually went with the flow and took a job at Intel. He will be leading Intel's discrete graphics division. 

 

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"Raja is one of the most experienced, innovative and respected graphics and system architecture visionaries in the industry and the latest example of top technical talent to join Intel,” said Dr. Murthy Renduchintala, Intel’s chief engineering officer and group president of the Client and Internet of Things Businesses and System Architecture. “We have exciting plans to aggressively expand our computing and graphics capabilities and build on our very strong and broad differentiated IP foundation. With Raja at the helm of our Core and Visual Computing Group, we will add to our portfolio of unmatched capabilities, advance our strategy to lead in computing and graphics, and ultimately be the driving force of the data revolution.”

 

This is exciting news for Intel as the division might be able to bring Intel their second wind into the consumer or professional space. Does this mean that Apple and Intel's relationship will be solidified? What about the age-old question of "what GPU is better"? What about iSync? Will Intel have to fight Apple for the right to use "i" before a technology? I'm thoroughly excited as Intel could produce enough competition for Nvidia to push their hardware further than ever before. 

 

Raja will begin his post in December of this year. I wish him the best of luck and success.

 

Source: https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/raja-koduri-joins-intel/

 

Shout-out to @Hackentosher for the link! Thank you!

[Ryujin2003]

So... If he gives AMD tech to Intel, that is totally legit? Like.. Le Phek?

[Creed1]

Honestly, I didn't really know about Raja Koduri until I dug up some articles on him this week with his departure. I will say, this is pretty interesting. I am very interested to see what the future brings in the computer market. 

[ARikozuM]

3 minutes ago, Ryujin2003 said:

So... If he gives AMD tech to Intel, that is totally legit? Like.. Le Phek?

I think giving insider info is illegal, but using the knowledge and expertise that you have is not. Obviously, if he makes a GCN-like GPU, Intel is... f#cked. 

 

Example: Building a non-Ford car as a Ford mechanic is not illegal, but building a Ford car for a non-Ford company is illegal.

 

@Sakkura, @LAwLz,and @Enderman, do you guys happen to know the legality of this? 

[ARikozuM]

I see Windspeed in the "recently browsing" and it worries me...

[GDRRiley]

4 hours ago, Abyssal Radon said:

Dude I have done crossfire systems many times before. Dual 5870s, dual 6950s, and dual 7970s. What a nightmare, granted when the games properly supported crossfire the performance was amazing. But now I am still enjoying my 980 Ti's. So yeah, I cannot wait for Volta to hit the market, gonna get a badass 1180 Ti... but only a Lightning card. I have taken another vowel, MSi Lightning cards are the only graphics cards I will grab. 

so you like to only buy one team and then one of the most expensive models that any brand makes. 

[Enderman]

5 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

I think giving insider info is illegal, but using the knowledge and expertise that you have is not. Obviously, if he makes a GCN-like GPU, Intel is... f#cked. 

 

Example: Building a non-Ford car as a Ford mechanic is not illegal, but building a Ford car for a non-Ford company is illegal.

 

@Sakkura, @LAwLz,and @Enderman, do you guys happen to know the legality of this? 

Yeh pretty much, but it's a grey area what is "his" and what is "AMD's" intellectual property, which is why there are so many law suits about this stuff.

[ARikozuM]

Just now, Enderman said:

Yeh pretty much, but it's a grey area what is "his" and what is "AMD's" intellectual property, which is why there are so many law suits about this stuff.

Does IP belong to the creating company or the creating individuals? 

[ARikozuM]

Just now, CUDA_Cores said:

who will be the figurehead for radeon technologies now 

For now, Lisa Su is the interim head. I'm sure Raja recommended a few employees to step up to his position. 

[Enderman]

3 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Does IP belong to the creating company or the creating individuals? 

Depends what it says on the papers he signed.

[Creed1]

9 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

I see Windspeed in the "recently browsing" and it worries me...

It worries all of us No. Not worried at all. Nothing bad, all good here. 

[Deletist_Jerk]

I'm surprised AMD didn't have a non-compete clause in his contract. 

[S w a t s o n]

5 hours ago, loculus said:

What Vega low/mobile to mid end? Do you mean Polaris, am I forgetting something big, or do you have info or speculation about future parts?

Vega 56 is decent and raven ridge seems to be great based on the few benchmarks we have seen. Plus intel is putting Vega with their new mobile CPUs as was recently announced

[S w a t s o n]

8 minutes ago, Deletist_Jerk said:

I'm surprised AMD didn't have a non-compete clause in his contract. 

REALLY surprised. Like how the fuck did AMD let this happen surprised.....

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, Swatson said:

REALLY surprised. Like how the fuck did AMD let this happen surprised.....

I don't think non-competes can be used to bar someone from their profession entirely. It can be used to stop a person from disclosing certain technologies or ongoings. 

[S w a t s o n]

Just now, ARikozuM said:

I don't think non-competes can be used to bar someone from their profession entirely. It can be used to stop a person from disclosing certain technologies or ongoings. 

He's going to head graphics development at Intel, that seems like something he would have a non-compete for considering he was at RTG with AMD. Direct competitor doing the same design work as he did for AMD.

[zberry7]

Really don’t think all of these should have been merged, the Raja news and the Intel/AMD APU are separate topics

[AresKrieger]

1 minute ago, zberry7 said:

Really don’t think all of these should have been merged, the Raja news and the Intel/AMD APU are separate topics

Yep it is quite confusing now, Raja moving to intel doesn't even have anything to do with this from what I gather at least not directly anyway