So apparently, the Intel/Radeon marriage is a thing that's happening

[Drak3]

47 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Those clauses are almost always illegal

As they should be, as well as port termination NDAs that don't deal with patents.

[linustouchtips]

wccftech is the cnn version of tech news fake

[Bouzoo]

1 hour ago, Humbug said:

Bad for AMD if true.

I'm waiting to see if there is some background reason for this, did just Intel offer him more money, did he have a fallout with AMD or is this due the collaboration between the two companies. It may not be bad for AMD, per se. 

[Ashleyyyy]

"the only loser here is NVIDIA" 

 

no not really... no serious gamer does anything on integrated graphics. doesn't matter how powerful the gpu is, you'll be using system memory instead of VRAM... 

[LogicWeasel]

6 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

"the only loser here is NVIDIA" 

 

no not really... no serious gamer does anything on integrated graphics. doesn't matter how powerful the gpu is, you'll be using system memory instead of VRAM... 

If you had looked at what Intel is doing with the Radeon integration, you'd know that not only is this not exactly "integrated graphics" but the Vega cores have their own HBM2 right next to them for dedicated VRAM.  Check the specs first: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12003/intel-to-create-new-8th-generation-cpus-with-amd-radeon-graphics-with-hbm2-using-emib

[LukaH]

his appearances on stage were always painful to watch, but if he is really going to intel then he is a liar because:

 

"I feel more and more that I want to pursue my passion beyond hardware and explore driving broader solutions"

 

i read that as if he is leaving chip design and related stuff but would be a waste of his talent i guess.

[cj09beira]

1 hour ago, NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle said:

I hope so, ever since AMD bought ATI they haven't done anything good with them, just empty promises.

what are you talking about, the 290 was a excellent gpu, the 290x was as well, the 480 was good also the 470/570 was the value king by a long shot (before mining boom), the reason amd is able to get most consoles is the fact that they have ati,

and now that the cpus are getting very good again it would be very stupid to trow away one of their biggest advantages.

[Ashleyyyy]

3 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

If you had looked at what Intel is doing with the Radeon integration, you'd know that not only is this not exactly "integrated graphics" but the Vega cores have their own HBM2 right next to them for dedicated VRAM.  Check the specs first: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12003/intel-to-create-new-8th-generation-cpus-with-amd-radeon-graphics-with-hbm2-using-emib

oh okay. sorry. 

 

i ddn't know specs were already available.

[Okjoek]

15 hours ago, dizmo said:

Haha, no. The consumer market isn't even that big when you compare the corporate one, where AMD doesn't really have a standing at all.

I don't think that'd help them that much. Sure they could own it, but the profits are a lot smaller down there, and really how many people are buying 550/560 GPUs? I'd imagine not many.

I got a 460 when they came out because my old GTX 500 series card died. Though if that card died today I'd probably just wait for raven ridge so I could make an SFF system. My problem with this is AMD needs to go beyond mITX in SFF design like Intel has with products such as mini-STX motherboards

[LukaH]

2 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

words didn't come from raja.

i guess i got confused since it was "signed" by him. usually it woiuld say lisa su, amd or something not raja.

 

text in question

 

[NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle]

7 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

what are you talking about, the 290 was a excellent gpu, the 290x was as well, the 480 was good also the 470/570 was the value king by a long shot (before mining boom), the reason amd is able to get most consoles is the fact that they have ati,

and now that the cpus are getting very good again it would be very stupid to trow away one of their biggest advantages.

Check ATI's history of what they produced before AMD bought them and you'll realize AMD stagnated ATI from achieving their true potential.

[cj09beira]

Just now, NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle said:

Check ATI's history of what they produced before AMD bought them and you'll realize AMD stagnated ATI from achieving their true potential.

only if you forget the fact that ati could not keep innovating as they were running out of money, 

[cj09beira]

7 hours ago, Master Disaster said:

I don't get why Intel would do this, it seems like they have nothing to gain.

 

They're eliminating their own iGPU line while giving a slice of their own profit margin direct to the competition. Seems like a very bad business move from Intel to me.

 

Plus Vega is shite, they should have gone down the Pascal route and made something people would actually want to buy.

intel would do this even if they lost money in the process, intel will go to extreme lengths to make their competitors lose money, in this case they are trying to puch nvidea out of the market, as right now nvidea is a bigger threat than amd, vega isnt shit at all its actually very effecient just that at max size (which is 64 rops 64 cus) the 64 rops become a bottleneck many times (supposed to change with newer games), at lower clocks and smaller sizes its very efficient

[Spenser1337]

10 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

only if you forget the fact that ati could not keep innovating as they were running out of money, 

Shhh

[i_build_nanosuits]

So Vega is that bad huh

[Spenser1337]

1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

So Vega is that bad huh

He made it.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, Spenser1337 said:

He made it.

1st he made nothing...2nd, it made him leave.

[Spenser1337]

7 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

1st he made nothing...2nd, it made him leave.

Crazy how random internet forumers know so much about the inner workings of billion dollar corporations

[i_build_nanosuits]

9 minutes ago, Spenser1337 said:

Crazy how random internet forumers know so much about the inner workings of billion dollar corporations

he was a spokesman, a salesman...his job was to look good on stage and tell how good the engineers did.

And since they did bad, and sank the ship...he took of.

[Spenser1337]

1 minute ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

he was a spokesman, a salesman...his job was to look good on stage and tell how good the engineers did.

And since they did bad, and sank the ship...he took of.

Senior Vice President and chief architect 

[Cameleon]

Confirmed that AMD is working with Intel to make fancy APU type thing, probably for Macbook (It's just called macbook, no version needed)

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12003/intel-to-create-new-8th-generation-cpus-with-amd-radeon-graphics-with-hbm2-using-emib

[Master Disaster]

1 hour ago, cj09beira said:

intel would do this even if they lost money in the process, intel will go to extreme lengths to make their competitors lose money, in this case they are trying to puch nvidea out of the market, as right now nvidea is a bigger threat than amd, vega isnt shit at all its actually very effecient just that at max size (which is 64 rops 64 cus) the 64 rops become a bottleneck many times (supposed to change with newer games), at lower clocks and smaller sizes its very efficient

I'm sorry, I can't take anybody who claims Intel & AMD are trying to push Nvidia out of a market they're not even involved in seriously at all.

 

Other than Nvidias own Tegra series name me one other SoC that contains Nvidia GPU technology in it? One processor that has Nvidia iGPU technology in it?

 

Yeah, you can't because none exist because Nvidia doesn't care about low power devices or integrated GPUs at all.

 

Like I said, I can't see a reason why Intel would agree to this deal, ultimately it only hurts them.

[The Benjamins]

9 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

I'm sorry, I can't take anybody who claims Intel & AMD are trying to push Nvidia out of a market they're not even involved in seriously at all.

 

Other than Nvidias own Tegra series name me one other SoC that contains Nvidia GPU technology in it? One processor that has Nvidia iGPU technology in it?

 

Yeah, you can't because none exist because Nvidia doesn't care about low power devices or integrated GPUs at all.

 

Like I said, I can't see a reason why Intel would agree to this deal, ultimately it only hurts them.

it could be a push to force Nvidia out of the laptop space, besides high end gaming laptops (1070 +). if Nvidia loses sales on the sub $1500 range it can impact them a good amount.

[ARikozuM]

I've been thinking about this quite a bit... What if Raja goes to the Blue Team? It would be crazy seeing Intel dGPU's alongside Nvidia and AMD. 3D Xpoint could be a good choice for a high-bandwidth GPU as it offers lower latency. Intel could properly thread their graphics driver for their CPU's like Vega and Ryzen from AMD. 

[Master Disaster]

4 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

it could be a push to force Nvidia out of the laptop space, besides high end gaming laptops (1070 +). if Nvidia loses sales on the sub $1500 range it can impact them a good amount.

At this point the only logical answer I've had is because Apple wants it for Macs and I'm struggling to believe that's true.

 

Nvidias laptop sales are exclusively that weird form factor that's full desktop but smaller so yeah, I suppose you've got a point. Vega can hold up against the 1050s & 1060s but then you gotta ask if it's worth cannibalising Intel's entire iGPU lineup just to spite Nvidia in the mid range laptop market?