Asus WS C621E SAGE

[Ginger_]

4 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

Well SIM card has the exact same icon just with the word SIM on it.

 

I think they mean cpu as in the whole computer. So a quad socket Xeon is still called a CPU.

SD has a notch, zoomed in you can see it on the board. Sim icons dont have the notch

 

 

 

[NumLock21]

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Aside from drooling over such a system, one of the stand-out features listed for the Sage is its ability to overclock both CPUs. We have been told by Intel that none of the Xeons are overclockable, which usually means that the CPU multiplier is not adjustable. ASUS hasn't released any details on the overclocking capabilities, however there are two ICS chips on the board which are usually attached to motherboards that offer significant base clock frequency adjustment, so our current thoughts are it will be using BCLK adjustments for overclocks. BIOS redundancy did not make it on the Sage as there is only a single BIOS chip on the board.      

 

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/11960/asus-announces-ws-c621e-sage-workstation-motherboard-dual-xeon-overclocking

[goodtofufriday]

Dual thread ripper when

[NumLock21]

3 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

Dual thread ripper when

That will be AMD Epyc

[GOTSpectrum]

5 hours ago, The Benjamins said:

Get out the dremel you need to cut the back of the x8 PCIe slots to allow x16 cards.

I find soldering irons work best for this

[leadeater]

6 hours ago, Ginger137 said:

That's a micro SD icon right above that slot. Sim wouldn't make sense anyway. 

 

For updating the bios maybe? 

It's for installing hypervisors on like ESXi.

[TheRandomness]

4 hours ago, samcool55 said:

True, but i don't think there are current high-end cards that are small enough.

Vega nano might be a thing, but for now it isn't and afaik 1080's or 1080ti's aren't available in such a small size with a waterblock. Could be wrong about that tho, too lazy to check

Zotac does a Nano 1080 Ti that might work
And the Vega Nano is confirmed to exist but we know nothing else about it.

[Azims]

This is NSFW

[FedNyanCat]

14 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

Asus new motherboard for the professional/enthusiast, and those with very deep pockets. So what does this board bring?

• Dual socket 3647 for Intel Xeon Scalable processors with Xeon overclock tuning
• 12 ram slots DDR4 up to 2666MHz 768GB max ECC in Hexa Channel
• 7 PCIe x16 slots, with 3 of them running at x16. 2 of them running at single x16 or dual x8, and 2 of them running at x8
• 10 SATA ports, 4 U.2 ports, and 1 M.2 port that will work with both SATA and PCIe M.2 SSD
• Supports 4-way Nvidia SLI and AMD CrossFire X. This depends on the graphic card that you get cause not all of them will work a 4-way setup.
• For power it needs a single 24 with dual 8. There is a EATX 6 pin 12v around the U.2, probably for extra power to the PCIe x16 slots. Note that, this is not the same 6 pin for your graphic card.
• 7+1 phase for CPU and 2 phase for DRAM
• Other parts are the 9 fan headers including those for the CPUs, internal usb 3.0, TPM, COM port, Q-Code LED, Power and Reset LED switches, Intel VROC Hardware Key, and VGA header. Yes this board has a VGA internal header on the board, power by a Aspeed AST2500 with 64MB of VRAM.
• On the back, you get your USB 3.1 Gen 1 and Gen 2, including Type C, PS/2 combo port, Audio jacks, dual gigabit lan, and a USB Bios Flash Back button
• Uses the EEB form factor, that's 12 inch x 13 inch ( 305cm x 330cm )
• One unique component on the board is located above the CMOS battery. That could be a MicroSD or SIM card slot. Asus did not provide any info on that.

 

 

https://www.asus.com/Commercial-Servers-Workstations/WS-C621E-SAGE/overview/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Small mistake, 13 inch isn't 3 meters forgot a dot

[asus killer]

now give me a cheap version i could put two G4560's in and beat the crap of expensive builds 

[Marinatall_Ironside]

3 hours ago, VegetableStu said:

It lost the PLX chip though (understandably so because KBLX)

They may do a WS X299-E/X299-E-10G with no Kaby Lake-X support, and possibly a WS X399-E/X399-E-10G (Ryzen Threadripper workstation)

[Skanky Sylveon]

[porina]

No one noticed my earlier post in CPU section as I was too lazy to make a proper news post about it

 

I'm hyped, but will watch with interest how wallet bustingly expensive it is, but it could possibly work out better value than consumer HEDT for my uses.

 

 

[kemit]

19 hours ago, Ginger137 said:

That's a micro SD icon right above that slot. Sim wouldn't make sense anyway. 

 

For updating the bios maybe? 

It could be a micro sd card for running some sever Oses prefer to run of a smaller volume like that. 

[Ginger_]

1 minute ago, kemit said:

It could be a micro sd card for running some sever Oses prefer to run of a smaller volume like that. 

 

Leadeater knew what it was for:

 

 

13 hours ago, leadeater said:

It's for installing hypervisors on like ESXi.

 

[TVwazhere]

Why 4 U.2 drives? are these more prevalent in workstation/server applications?

[NumLock21]

6 hours ago, FedNyanCat said:

Small mistake, 13 inch isn't 3 meters forgot a dot

Wat?

[32x]

So how wet is Linus right now?

[The Benjamins]

1 hour ago, NumLock21 said:

Wat?

330cm or 3300mm or 3.3 meters is not equal to 13 inches.

[DildorTheDecent]

17 hours ago, goodtofufriday said:

Dual thread ripper when

Nope too slow. 

 

Gotta love that 4GHz wall my guy. 

[leadeater]

37 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

Nope too slow. 

 

Gotta love that 4GHz wall my guy. 

Well it's not like you're going to be able to put in two 28 core Xeons and have an all core frequency above 4Ghz either, not with single EPS per CPU and 7 phase VRM. Let alone the $20k just in the CPU price to try .

 

Equally won't be doing this with dual EPYC either though.

[N1G3L.L0K3]

If ASUS can make the Threadripper version of this (assuming AMD can come up with a chipset derived from X399 that supports TWO or even FOUR)...

This is some serious challenge against Intel's dominance in dual/quad CPU market.

[leadeater]

10 minutes ago, N1G3L.L0K3 said:

If ASUS can make the Threadripper version of this (assuming AMD can come up with a chipset derived from X399 that supports TWO or even FOUR)...

This is some serious challenge against Intel's dominance in dual/quad CPU market.

AMD multi-processor systems use the EPYC line of products. These server CPUs are limited to two processors due to the architecture and how they link the CPUs, using PCIe lanes. AMD doesn't currently support any more than 2.

 

Threadripper is single socket and does not support any more than that, just the same as Skylake-X.

 

The product mentioned in this topic is about Intel's server line of chipsets and CPUs.

[porina]

Anandtech writes following about OC possibilities:

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We have been told by Intel that none of the Xeons are overclockable, which usually means that the CPU multiplier is not adjustable. ASUS hasn't released any details on the overclocking capabilities, however there are two ICS chips on the board which are usually attached to motherboards that offer significant base clock frequency adjustment, so our current thoughts are it will be using BCLK adjustments for overclocks. 

Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/11960/asus-announces-ws-c621e-sage-workstation-motherboard-dual-xeon-overclocking

 

I don't know if there is much potential for a "multicore enhancement" scenario, but fsb clocking will be like the old days of locked multipliers.

 

Back to my earlier thought it might work out more interesting than HEDT, for my compute uses I'm looking for a good balance of ram bandwidth and total CPU potential (cores * clock). I wouldn't want more than 2 fast cores (4 GHz+) per channel to avoid starving the CPU. Intel HEDT only offers quad channel, so it would start getting less interesting much beyond 8 fast cores. The higher end Xeons offer 6 ram channels, so we're looking at supporting 12 fast cores here, maybe more if you can't get the clock up. These are "only" around $1k list. A pair of those would be cost comparable to a single 7980XE. Further, the ram channels are per socket, so the 2nd socket can go full speed also. Rest of system costs could be scary though, requiring a minimum of 12 ram modules to feed it. I don't need capacity, but smaller sizes generally don't exist any more so will need to buy more than I need in that sense. I'd also need to increase cooling costs to cover two sockets. This wont be cheap by any means, but it might not be too insane to do...

[orangecat]

That I/O tho... I know it's not really meant for consumer use but surely if your buying this board you need power and functionality. For that price I would have liked to see at least some more USB 3 ports.