Intel is planning to release a 2 core i3 for x299, i3-7360X

[TidaLWaveZ]

WHY ARE THEY INTERNALLY SABOTAGING MY SACRED ENTHUSIAST PLATFORM WITH THIS FILTH!

 

I'm tired of dirty mainstream users gaining access to the enthusiast level and I won't stand for it.

[outercry]

Is this really confirmed, because I for one thought it was bad enough to have 4 core CPUs on x299, but this, if true... what in the actual fuck?

 

Plus, I thought that with Ryzens' appearance we would finally move on towards an age without dual cores, even from Intel, sigh...

[The Benjamins]

2 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

btw I did think about it, but say if intel has too many leftover i3-grade chips and are looking to offload them somehow, why X299?

 

if it's for competitive overclocking reasons, is it even viable? (what are the scoring methods here again...?) does it perform better because there's lesser heat being generated locally, or worse because of the reasons it got cut down in the first place?

 

or was it really they found out the top 20%-ish overperformed and went "nope can't waste them potential"?

If they are not selling on the cheap platform why would they sell on the expensive one?

[captain cactus]

1 hour ago, Potato*Salad said:

Waiting for 1 core Pentium on X299, always needed to try and clock 1 core to 8 ghz.

At this point they might as well re-release the 8084 on LGA2011 and nobody would be surprised.

[ashypanda]

WHY!!!!!!!!!!!

[pas008]

I dont see a issue with this why shouldnt enthusiast platform have a wide cpu selection that includes the likes of mainstream cpus

plus make it easier to just kill off mainstream and hedt and go with one platform later on

 

[shadowbyte]

wat

[LukaH]

"gotta waste money on something"

[Taf the Ghost]

1 hour ago, Windows7ge said:

Free? If they're trying to distribute them for free it sounds like they're trying to get rid of a lot of the CPUs that didn't make the cut in terms of successful yield. Like any 4, 6, or 8 core variant that didn't meet their standard.

They aren't giving them away. I'm saying, though, even if they were "free", they'd be a bad value because of the X299 platform costs.

1 hour ago, VegetableStu said:

btw I did think about it, but say if intel has too many leftover i3-grade chips and are looking to offload them somehow, why X299?

 

if it's for competitive overclocking reasons, is it even viable? (what are the scoring methods here again...?) does it perform better because there's lesser heat being generated locally, or worse because of the reasons it got cut down in the first place?

 

or was it really they found out the top 20%-ish overperformed and went "nope can't waste them potential"?

You might be onto something. They simply had a bunch of them and someone came up with the bright idea to put them on a package and sell them.

 

Though, and this is a BIG maybe, Intel thinks some Miners might buy them. I'm not sure why, but it's a random idea. Someone, somewhere, in Intel had to have run numbers and it said they could sell these. Much like the reason the 7740X exists.

[The Benjamins]

4 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

They aren't giving them away. I'm saying, though, even if they were "free", they'd be a bad value because of the X299 platform costs.

You might be onto something. They simply had a bunch of them and someone came up with the bright idea to put them on a package and sell them.

 

Though, and this is a BIG maybe, Intel thinks some Miners might buy them. I'm not sure why, but it's a random idea. Someone, somewhere, in Intel had to have run numbers and it said they could sell these. Much like the reason the 7740X exists.

I don't think miners would, they need a lot of 1x PCIe and this is no better then a 1511 socket board version. honestly the amd 7251 at $475 with 128 PCIe would be best. if you could mange to split all the PCIe up you could run 100+ GPU's on 1 socket.

[corsairian]

This is odd. What is the point in even having 2 platforms? Intel should just consolidate into one chipset to rule them all. It would save on R&D and make it easier for consumers to buy parts and not worry about compativility. 

 

This was a joke. But I can see it being a thing. 

[KenjiUmino]

2 hours ago, wcreek said:

Looking at the benchmarks really it swings close to a R3 1200 so from a value perspective the X4 is a lot better.

the benchmarks i have seen also show that the AM4 athlon x4 gets ass whipped by the pentium G4560. it's a refreshed faildozer after all. 

[Princess Luna]

Intel needs to ditch the defective i7 7740x that are defective i5 7640x some how, even if they manage to sell just 1 processor they will already be "making money"... come on now it renders every one a few laughs that the total failure of the i3 7350k made it to the x299 lets not be all hateful on Intel.

[Princess Luna]

1 hour ago, pas008 said:

I dont see a issue with this why shouldnt enthusiast platform have a wide cpu selection that includes the likes of mainstream cpus

plus make it easier to just kill off mainstream and hedt and go with one platform later on

Because you can pick an i7 7700 on a 39,99$ h110m motherboard and severely outperform the i3 7360x OC'd to 5.1ghz on a 300$ motherboard with a 150$ AIO Water cooler?

 

And don't get me started with "getting low end now to upgrade path to i9 later" because more than likely by the time you actually saved all the money for that sweet i9 7900x there will be a x499 platform on the horizon and you're already drooling for the Core i11 12950xe

 

It bothers me that there are no locked processors... I want to pair my Asus ROG Zenith Extreme x299 with Intel Celeron 3395 2c/2t processor.

[Clanscorpia]

This sounds fake, like theres a limit before you think "Really?". Cmon, they did this just for clicks

[ScratchCat]

I cannot see a single reason for this to be on the X299 platform

 

Extra PCIe lanes : Nope

Extra RAM slots : Nope

Better power consumption: Nope

Better power delivery : Useless for i3

Upgrade path : already spent same as 6C/12T R5 1600X

 

[Marinatall_Ironside]

Could someone please behead me and hang me off of a bridge!

 

This is some next-level stupid, and I thought the i5 and i7 X-series Kaby Lake CPUs were stupid enough.

[NumLock21]

I can has a single core Celeron with HT plz!

 

 

 

[DoctorWho1975]

2 hours ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

At this point they might as well re-release the 8084 on LGA2011 and nobody would be surprised.

 

KabyLake 8084X

[SpaceGhostC2C]

OP: I don't believe you.

You have a source? OK: I don't believe your source.

 

And if Intel comes out and releases this CPU - then I won't believe Intel.

 

My mind will simply never acknowledge its existence.

 

2 hours ago, wcreek said:

@Dan Castellaneta When you remember that the FX 4100 is on a 32nm process. 

 

Then again Intel was on 32nm at around that time too but shortly after that Intel went down to 22nm and I think the smallest Bulldozer got to was like 28nm? Still wow

Bulldozer and Piledriver were on 32nm, Steamroller and Excavator were on 28nm.

Unfortunately, that seem to prevent re-using the existing sockets, which meant moving from FM2 to FM2+, and probably what kept Steamroller and Excavator out of AM3+ (which dated back to Phenom II). I would have loved to see the kind of IPC gains they got after the shrink in an 8-core FX. It probably wouldn't have made sense for AMD to push an update of 990FX, although seeing how manufacturers kept releasing new motherboards all the way almost till Ryzen's release, I'm not sure it would have been that hard. But I don't know what it would have costed them in terms of investment and manpower.

[AnonymousGuy]

I'm still taking the same position I took with KBL-X...I don't hate a product just for existing.  Make  a Celeron that plugs in to X299...knock yourselves out...I don't *have* to buy it.

[NumLock21]

X299 i3 and motherboard, same price as the mainstream, then it would not be as stupid. I think Gigabyte made a X299 for mainstream.

[pas008]

31 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Because you can pick an i7 7700 on a 39,99$ h110m motherboard and severely outperform the i3 7360x OC'd to 5.1ghz on a 300$ motherboard with a 150$ AIO Water cooler?

 

And don't get me started with "getting low end now to upgrade path to i9 later" because more than likely by the time you actually saved all the money for that sweet i9 7900x there will be a x499 platform on the horizon and you're already drooling for the Core i11 12950xe

 

It bothers me that there are no locked processors... I want to pair my Asus ROG Zenith Extreme x299 with Intel Celeron 3395 2c/2t processor.

If true I dont see problem with this at all like most of you

gives people easy entry to the platform and disagree with you on upgrade path comment because many people upgrade within months or yrs later even if its older just wanting more cores/speed for their media/htpc/etc

 

and like I said looking at z270 and x299 chipset how close they are

intel could be moving to 1 platform down the line with one chipset

would make sense considering most people use their mobile devices for the quick and simple shit

no need of this hedt or mainstream platforms, which dont make any sense at all anyways

 

 

[Bananasplit_00]

i kinda want there to be a Pentium 4 that goes on X299 too... and no, not any other pentium, i want a fucking PGA478 P4 on there, Intel get on it! you work that shit out

[PianoPlayer88Key]

While I don't like Intel's specific implementation here, it does remind me of something I really would like to see.

 

I'd love to see just ONE socket be compatible with ALL CPUs.  I want to be able to start with, say, the equivalent of a Kaby Lake Pentium (or Celeron except it only has 2 threads), then upgrade to the equivalent of a 7980XE (but much cheaper preferably), Xeon Platinum, Threadripper, Epyc, etc.  (Intel and AMD used to be inter-socket-compatible with Socket 5, I think it was.)

 

I also want to be able to upgrade to multiple generations.  I don't like the idea of going through the work of disconnecting everything from the motherboard to replace it, just to replace a CPU.  If I could go through 2 or more SeaSonic Prime Platinum PSUs (each dying of old age) BEFORE I have to replace the motherboard due to incompatibility with upgrades.

 

We've had inter-compatibility with PCI Express slots since, when, 2003?  I'd like CPU sockets to be compatible at least that long, and I also wish DIMM slots would be compatible between generations.  Other things, like SATA/SAS, USB, M.2, LAN, WiFi, etc, I'd think could be upgraded by PCIe add-in cards.  (The PCIe slots aren't JUST for video cards, ya know  )

 

Another thing - I think, instead of PCI-E lane and # DIMM support being based on the CPU (like KBL-X only supporting dual channel & 16 lanes & SL-X_i9 supporting quad channel & 44(?) lanes), it should be based on the motherboard form factor.  Some examples:

• Mini ITX: 20 PCIe lanes (1x PCIe x16 + 1x M.2), 2 RAM slots (dual-channel, 1 DIMM, or single-channel, 2 DIMM), or maybe 4 slots? (I think I heard of a mini ITX board with 4 SO-DIMM slots)
• Micro ATX: 68 PCIe lanes (4x PCIe x16 + 1x M.2, or could redistribute), 8 RAM slots quad-channel RAM (1 DIMM/c) or dual-channel (2 DIMM/c, depending on user preference)
• Standard ATX: 120 PCIe lanes (7x PCIe x16 + 2x M.2, or could redistribute), 8 RAM slots (4c/2d or 2c/4d depending on user preference)
• EATX / SSI EEB: 2 CPU sockets 128 PCIe lanes (7x PCIe x16 + 4x M.2), 16 RAM slots (distributable based on user preference), 2 CPU sockets
• as-yet-unnamed standard partly compatible with ATX (can put ATX board in case with this standard but not vice versa): 4 (or 8) CPU sockets, 12 or 16 DIMMs per socket, probably 16 or so PCIe x16 slots (or however many the Supermicro 7089P-TR4T supports) plus that many M.2 ports

Okay that last one might be niche cases, but it'd be at least nice to have a standard for quad- and octa-socket boards, and be able to use off-the-shelf cases designed for them

 

Something I forgot was: they should all support ECC RAM, including registered.