Intel is planning to release a 2 core i3 for x299, i3-7360X

[techdiode]

UNLOCKED 10GHz Celeron with 44 lanes.

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, techdiode said:

UNLOCKED 10GHz Celeron with 8 lanes.

ftfy

[Jito463]

1 hour ago, Dylanc1500 said:

I cant argue that, as I honestly can't up with any normal use case scenarios. However have travel all over kingdom come and have seen people use hardware for many things that I personally wouldn't have thought of. I went to a certain Aircraft manufacture and went into there server/communications room and they were using a brand new 7700 to run DOS 6.22. They were using it to monitor a control input and output of a nortel PBX system with their Network Database.

Please tell me they were running it on a 1TB SSD (or better yet, 2 in RAID 1....or even better, 3 in RAID 5).  

[Windows7ge]

2 hours ago, Sauron said:

CPU issues are extremely rare. Of course in their mind this is to make more money, I just can't think of how that is going to happen. Nobody in their right mind would move up to x299 with a dual core, especially if it doesn't take advantage of the platform's pcie lanes - and even if they did, the slightly higher margin on the price would be all intel would get from that sale as I don't believe they make much money from the motherboard sale.

A not all that rare occurrence is when someone overclocks their processor to where it breaks. I remember watching JayzTwoCents some time ago and when overclocking a CPU (I do not recall which) he accidentally sent way too much power to the CPU. Killing it. Having a "cheap" (It probably wont be a good price:performance value) CPU laying around could be handy.

 

I've heard of people dropping their CPU's and damaging them that way. Again having a "cheap" backup could be useful.

 

If you have a failed CPU overclock and for whatever reason resetting the BIOS isn't working using a different processor could reset the OC.

 

It's circumstantial but I could see this appealing to a small market.

[Dylanc1500]

31 minutes ago, Jito463 said:

Please tell me they were running it on a 1TB SSD (or better yet, 2 in RAID 1....or even better, 3 in RAID 5).  

No they had network boot, it used to run a 500MB Fast SCSI drive. It was fun to play with though, they still used the original WYSE monitor from '95.

 

They did have a SCSI add in card though in case they ever needed to use one of the original drive should the network go down.

[DildorTheDecent]

4 hours ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Inb4 it can't overclock higher than the FX8xxx that's currently sitting at the very top  

It won't. Intel usually ends up cold bugging before that. LHe is usually required for CPU-Z records. 

 

FX is damn useless for anything other than frequency records. They make great paper weights though. 

[SpaceGhostC2C]

16 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

FX is damn useless for anything other than frequency records.

Well, isn't that the exact case people is making for this rumored CPU?

 

I mean, there's also "being a good value for parallel workloads", but that wouldn't apply to the i3.

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1 minute ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

Well, isn't that the exact case people is making for this rumored CPU?

 

I mean, there's also "being a good value for parallel workloads", but that wouldn't apply to the i3.

I feel like if it was designed just for setting records, they seriously could have just made it a single core, and made it even cheaper.  That would let people buy more and not worry about killing them, and it would probably clock higher since fewer cores usually wins the frequency battle.

[snortingfrogs]

Wtf.

[DildorTheDecent]

1 hour ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

Well, isn't that the exact case people is making for this rumored CPU?

 

I mean, there's also "being a good value for parallel workloads", but that wouldn't apply to the i3.

>Except that the 7350k is already proving itself to be pretty quick for a dual core.

http://hwbot.org/submission/3440380_true_monkey_cinebench___2003_core_i3_7350k_3941_points/

http://hwbot.org/submission/3496993_splave_cinebench___r11.5_core_i3_7350k_8.34_points

http://hwbot.org/submission/3534700_splave_cinebench___r15_core_i3_7350k_766_cb

1 hour ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I feel like if it was designed just for setting records, they seriously could have just made it a single core, and made it even cheaper.  That would let people buy more and not worry about killing them, and it would probably clock higher since fewer cores usually wins the frequency battle.

There's more to extreme overclocking that just raw clock speed. There's no point in having an unlocked single core processor. Just a waste of resources. What people are interesting in is core scaling. With that + napkin math it's fairly easy to assume what the next processor scores all the way up to the high end. 

 

You'll see that the 7350K already has some of the 2x CPU records. But that's a mainstream platform chip. Should someone want to then change to a HEDT chip they'll have to shutdown, remove pot and prep the HEDT platform. That takes time. And time is never really on their side. Whereas with a 7360X they just have to swap the chip, reapply paste and jobs a good one. 7360X could also take advantage of the better built X299 boards like the Rampage VI Apex. 

 

Spoiler

http://hwbot.org/benchmark/xtu/

http://hwbot.org/benchmark/superpi_-_1m/

http://hwbot.org/benchmark/pifast/

http://hwbot.org/benchmark/hwbot_x265_benchmark_-_1080p/

http://hwbot.org/benchmark/cinebench_-_r15/

 

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1 minute ago, DildorTheDecent said:

There's more to extreme overclocking that just raw clock speed. There's no point in having an unlocked single core processor. Just a waste of resources. What people are interesting in is core scaling. With that + napkin math it's fairly easy to assume what the next processor scores all the way up to the high end. 

What do you mean by "core scaling"?  Like, how well it scores on 2+ cores vs just 1?  In a synthetic benchmark where each thread runs the same code independently of any other, I can't see a reason for there to ever be anything other than a linear relationship... have you seen oddities before though?

1 minute ago, DildorTheDecent said:

You'll see that the 7350K already has some of the 2x CPU records. But that's a mainstream platform chip. Should someone want to then change to a HEDT chip they'll have to shutdown, remove pot and prep the HEDT platform. That takes time. And time is never really on their side. Whereas with a 7360X they just have to swap the chip, reapply paste and jobs a good one. 7360X could also take advantage of the better built X299 boards like the Rampage VI Apex. 

 

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http://hwbot.org/benchmark/xtu/

http://hwbot.org/benchmark/superpi_-_1m/

http://hwbot.org/benchmark/pifast/

http://hwbot.org/benchmark/hwbot_x265_benchmark_-_1080p/

http://hwbot.org/benchmark/cinebench_-_r15/

 

Bottom line then, this is really just aimed at extreme overclockers?

[mr moose]

4 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Except I think if there was one, a community of tech people would have figured one out in 6+ pages, and yet, they haven't.  I don't think I've ever seen such a one sided response to anything on this forum or anywhere.  It's kind of incredible actually   I mean, so far I think there's only been one person to even suggest it could have a use, but they haven't even come up with one, just suggested it might exist.

2 of us at least, I did say maybe it's just left over silicon that isn't good enough for anything else and they know it will sell.

And (unfortunately) most of the responses in this thread are not well thought out considerations of the rumor (because I believe that is all it is still), but merely immature reactions, derisory comments and memes.    Has anyone really stopped to consider how it looks to make derisory comments about a company and stomp your feat pontificating about how silly they are based on a rumor of a product that they wouldn't  even consider buying?

 

 

 

[SpaceGhostC2C]

28 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

>Except that the 7350k is already proving itself to be pretty quick for a dual core.

http://hwbot.org/submission/3440380_true_monkey_cinebench___2003_core_i3_7350k_3941_points/

http://hwbot.org/submission/3496993_splave_cinebench___r11.5_core_i3_7350k_8.34_points

http://hwbot.org/submission/3534700_splave_cinebench___r15_core_i3_7350k_766_cb

 

Which is like saying "it´s pretty smart for an idiot".

I mean, you are just confirming its role as 

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damn useless for anything other than frequency records.

 

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6 minutes ago, mr moose said:

2 of us at least, I did say maybe it's just left over silicon that isn't good enough for anything else and they know it will sell.

But that's not a use for it, that's just an explanation for why it exists.

6 minutes ago, mr moose said:

And (unfortunately) most of the responses in this thread are not well thought out considerations of the rumor (because I believe that is all it is still), but merely immature reactions, derisory comments and memes.

 true

6 minutes ago, mr moose said:

Has anyone really stopped to consider how it looks to make derisory comments about a company and stomp your feat pontificating about how silly they are based on a rumor of a product that they wouldn't  even consider buying?

feet*

I don't think whether or not they'd buy it matters, people speculate on and debate products they never buy all the time.  If people only ever talked about things that they eventually bought, these news threads would be practically dead.  I think everyone is making comments in the context of knowing that there is little if any reason for this to exist.

[WereCat]

7 hours ago, DildorTheDecent said:

Great for OC tho. Have some of these, then some of the i7s and i9s for more speed.

 

One unified platform for the enthusiast sector isn't a bad idea tbh. Means when you've clinched the dual core WR you can just open the socket and swap in a 7980XE. All on one board. 

 

But alas as usual LTT thinks everything is for "gaymers". 

But this is not for "gaymers".

 

"Gaymers" won't buy $200 dual-core and $400 board so that they can throw $300 graphics card on it.

Power users won't buy dual-core either.

And if you are just buying this purely for OC then sure, go ahead but that's the only thing that this i3 is made for.

It doesn't even have iGPU for causal users but even then... you are throwing more money on MB than CPU so even with iGPU it would not be for casual users.

Not to mention that you cannot use half of your motherboard features with this CPU so why even bother...

[MoonlightSylv]

Who the hell is this for?

[mr moose]

3 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

But that's not a use for it, that's just an explanation for why it exists.

 true

feet*

I don't think whether or not they'd buy it matters, people speculate on and debate products they never buy all the time.  If people only ever talked about things that they eventually bought, these news threads would be practically dead.  I think everyone is making comments in the context of knowing that there is little if any reason for this to exist.

fair enough, 

 

Feat/feet, an amazing feat of feet with great strength of foot.  I smell a foul plot afoot.   ( <name that movie)

[Jito463]

4 hours ago, mr moose said:

Feat/feet, an amazing feat of feet with great strength of foot.  I smell a foul plot afoot.   ( <name that movie)

Sounds like something from Robin Hood: Men In Tights.

[Sauron]

17 hours ago, Windows7ge said:

A not all that rare occurrence is when someone overclocks their processor to where it breaks. I remember watching JayzTwoCents some time ago and when overclocking a CPU (I do not recall which) he accidentally sent way too much power to the CPU. Killing it. Having a "cheap" (It probably wont be a good price:performance value) CPU laying around could be handy.

 

I've heard of people dropping their CPU's and damaging them that way. Again having a "cheap" backup could be useful.

 

If you have a failed CPU overclock and for whatever reason resetting the BIOS isn't working using a different processor could reset the OC.

 

It's circumstantial but I could see this appealing to a small market.

Well, removing the CMOS battery will reset the motherboard pretty much without fail, and if it still doesn't work it's a clear sign the motherboard or the cpu is damaged. Killing a cpu through overvolting is possible but you really need to be pushing it, or throw in 2v or something, in which case you'll know it's dead.

 

It's not that it would be completely useless, but dropping 200$ or so on it definitely makes no sense.

[Windows7ge]

2 hours ago, Sauron said:

Well, removing the CMOS battery will reset the motherboard pretty much without fail, and if it still doesn't work it's a clear sign the motherboard or the cpu is damaged. Killing a cpu through overvolting is possible but you really need to be pushing it, or throw in 2v or something, in which case you'll know it's dead.

 

It's not that it would be completely useless, but dropping 200$ or so on it definitely makes no sense.

$200!?! WTF. I'd drop no more than $75. It's existence doesn't bother me but that price tag does. It seems Intel's objective is to merge the mainstream and enthusiast platforms. I assume this is so those who can only afford limited parts have a longer upgrade path before they hit hardware limitations. Of course this isn't for the benefit of those people it's just so Intel can make more money.

[Sauron]

12 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

$200!?! WTF. I'd drop no more than $75. It's existence doesn't bother me but that price tag does. It seems Intel's objective is to merge the mainstream and enthusiast platforms. I assume this is so those who can only afford limited parts have a longer upgrade path before they hit hardware limitations. Of course this isn't for the benefit of those people it's just so Intel can make more money.

I'm speculating on the price, but I can't imagine it will be cheaper than any "normal" i3, so it will be at least 160$. Knowing intel, 200$ is probably pretty spot on.

[flibberdipper]

I DEMAND A CELERON RIGHT NOW INTEL.

[Lemming Overlord]

Yes, it sounds ridiculous, but it's most likely bullshit, or a marketing gimmick to enable first-tier PC makers to list their items relatively "cheaply", yet still as HEDT, in their product line-ups.

[Djole123]

 

That's like putting a Ford Focus engine in a 918 Spyder. Sure, it'll look cool, but it's pointless as hell. Plus it's not gonna come cheap.