LTT Official Folding Month V (2022)

[Heats with Nvidia]

10 hours ago, GOTSpectrum said:

So we have some juicy prizes from @jakkuh_t

I am excited, with a lot of luck, i might be abled to get a little of the money for the electricity back!

 

Greetings from Germany

[gravitywave]

11 hours ago, Gorgon said:

PCI Bus Utilization is notoriously difficult to measure as it's clocked so fast and getting stupidly fast these days with Gen4 and 5 at play. About the only way to figure out if your bus bottlenecked is by measuring yields of the same WU in different slot configurations. There's a 18 page thread over at Folding Forum where people did just that. In my BiFrost build in my sig I also did some testing when using m.2 to PCIe3x4 in x16 risers to see what impact, if any, was there going down to PCIe3x4 from x8 and x16. TLDR is Linux - No Problem - Windows about a 20% decrease in PPD for higher end GPUs. Granted this was before Windows improvements with Core22 ...

Thanks for the reply and info!

[Gorgon]

6 hours ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

OK, I'm not THAT desperate. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BHD9TS9Q

or even this much https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09YCLG5PB

Want vs. Need.

 

You know as soon as you buy one they'll release the ti

[RollinLower]

1 hour ago, Gorgon said:

Want vs. Need.

 

You know as soon as you buy one they'll release the ti

the everlasting struggle. If not for Nvidia, AMD or maybe even Intel releases the next best thing mere hours after you confirm the purchase.

i guess that's just the tech industry we live in. 

[NetoriusNick]

43 minutes ago, RollinLower said:

the everlasting struggle. If not for Nvidia, AMD or maybe even Intel releases the next best thing mere hours after you confirm the purchase.

i guess that's just the tech industry we live in. 

why im looking at some cheep 3090s seen a few go for <500 quid

[Alex Atkin UK]

6 hours ago, Gorgon said:

Want vs. Need.

 

You know as soon as you buy one they'll release the ti

From what were seeing if they DO release a Ti its highly unlikely its going scale up that much.  I'm more concerned at CPUs, because you know a 5950X is really not powerful enough for a 4090.

 

Seriously though, I just want to be able to run 4K 120Hz at 220-330W in most games, always be able to install the hires texture pack, stop getting VRAM low errors in Far Cry 6, F@H like a beast and know I have some room for turning the power limit back up again when required.

Plus the way things are going with the cost of living, this might be my last upgrade for a while so I'm just going for it now while I can (well, once I can, not paying above FE prices).

[Gorgon]

Here's the top 10 at the start of the first folding month. Of these only @crashfodder is still active.

 # User              Points Then # Now     Points Now
 1 Peter_Purves    2,113,257,225    35  2,655,539,294
 2 Crashfodder     1,408,142,182    45  2,343,273,313
 3 pete_m          1,229,953,144   133  1,229,953,144
 4 Anonymous1957     939,462,119    96  1,520,923,677
 5 Mark_Kilpatrick   723,789,735   262    790,909,380
 6 Domtine           717,428,241   294    717,428,241
 7 AlphaBravo        689,020,889   297    715,921,111
 8 LemurWrangler     598,652,198   229    855,156,803
 9 ScreamsoftheDead  589,126,355   352    625,604,667
10 legendarypoet     574,382,883     4 13,928,154,647

[justpoet]

19 minutes ago, Gorgon said:

Here's the top 10 at the start of the first folding month. Of these only @crashfodder is still active.

 # User              Points Then # Now     Points Now
 1 Peter_Purves    2,113,257,225    35  2,655,539,294
 2 Crashfodder     1,408,142,182    45  2,343,273,313
 3 pete_m          1,229,953,144   133  1,229,953,144
 4 Anonymous1957     939,462,119    96  1,520,923,677
 5 Mark_Kilpatrick   723,789,735   262    790,909,380
 6 Domtine           717,428,241   294    717,428,241
 7 AlphaBravo        689,020,889   297    715,921,111
 8 LemurWrangler     598,652,198   229    855,156,803
 9 ScreamsoftheDead  589,126,355   352    625,604,667
10 legendarypoet     574,382,883     4 13,928,154,647

Doesn't legendary still do occasional folding on a different name?  I thought he just gave up the name and continual folding around the same time as leaving here.  I should go bug 'em on their own site, as I always enjoy looking at their builds.

[rkv_2401]

It's hard to imagine that just 4 years of activity ago (he retired the name sometime last year AFAIK), Den-Fi only had 570ish million points

[Gorgon]

8 hours ago, rkv_2401 said:

It's hard to imagine that just 4 years of activity ago (he retired the name sometime last year AFAIK), Den-Fi only had 570ish million points

@GOTSpectrum was in 20th place with 295,946,575 points

@Gorgon was in 25th place at 226,679,239 points

@SansVarnic was in 26th place with 226,649,760 points.

@palespartan was in 23rd place with 253,641,439 points
@RollinLower was in 126th place with 51,814,676 points

@Ithanul was in 192nd place with 37,213,044 points

@Metallus97 was in 213th place with 34,323,324 points

@James was in 448th place with 15,048,028 points

@Egg-Roll was in 485th place with 13,583,169 points

@TVwazhere was in 4564th place with 103,247 points

@jakkuh_t wasn't even on the list at the start but did quite well in the event

[GOTSpectrum]

I don't even know what my current point total is like, after getting my diamond badge I just stopped watching

[Gorgon]

My annual PSA in advance of Folding Month

 

[BiotechBen]

1 hour ago, Gorgon said:

My annual PSA in advance of Folding Month

 

Mine has been running open air due to being a P2 era case and not really having airflow, and it's been collecting a moderate coating of dust. And I THINK it's using the cable that came with the PSU. With how many times I have moved my life in the past year and how many IEC plugs I have it's hard to tell.

[LAR_Systems]

On 10/21/2022 at 3:33 AM, rkv_2401 said:

When are we starting Gorgon's FoldingTechTips?

I would give em a section on my site if interested lol.

[cbigfoot]

2 hours ago, Gorgon said:

My annual PSA in advance of Folding Month

 

one of my rules of thumb with that is if the prongs(in the USA)  on the plug are brass tossem as if they are Folded metal tossem only use on your computer if Nikel Plated and AWG 16(up to 800Watt) or 14(850W+) (When i worked at a major comptuer mfg many moons ago that was their cut off for shipping 14 awg vs 16 not sure what it is currently) and i may be nuts but if i cycle the plug more than 50 times i order a new one and relegate the old one to the wire cutters then trash to guarantee non reuse. 

Also i will use awg 18 for monitors or computers under 500watt psu but thats it

[Alex Atkin UK]

12 minutes ago, cbigfoot said:

one of my rules of thumb with that is if the prongs(in the USA)  on the plug are brass tossem as if they are Folded metal tossem only use on your computer if Nikel Plated and AWG 14(up to 800Watt) or 12(850W+) (When i worked at a major comptuer mfg many moons ago that was their cut off for shipping 12 awg vs 14 not sure what it is currently) and i may be nuts but if i cycle the plug more than 50 times i order a new one and relegate the old one to the wire cutters then trash to guarantee non reuse. 

Its the sockets on UPS that really bother me, sometimes they are alarmingly loose.  Glad my latest one has some UK outlets on it.

Mind you bought an IEC to UK socket adapter off Amazon and it was junk, the UK socket they used was loose so I ended up rewiring better one myself.

[cbigfoot]

1 minute ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Its the sockets on UPS that really bother me, sometimes they are alarmingly loose.  Glad my latest one has some UK outlets on it.

Mind you bought an IEC to UK socket adapter off Amazon and it was junk, the UK socket they used was loose so I ended up rewiring better one myself.

Yeah, that can be sketchy too but if my UPS plugs get loose, I stop using the outlet on the ups and move to another. or if all outlets or too many are loose, I will replace last 2 that have had loose plugs I went to APCs website and got credit for new ones i only buy 1500va+ Ups's 

[BondiBlue]

@BiotechBen You have a Radeon RX 480 that you're folding with, right? If so, how many points are you averaging per day? I'm thinking about picking up another RX 580 for folding month since the one I bought a couple weeks ago is working so well. 

[BiotechBen]

12 minutes ago, BondiBlue said:

@BiotechBen You have a Radeon RX 480 that you're folding with, right? If so, how many points are you averaging per day? I'm thinking about picking up another RX 580 for folding month since the one I bought a couple weeks ago is working so well. 

480 is bringing in 400-650PPD depending on the WU's I get. One thing to not is that I've got a high bin card from xfx, so a marginal 580 is going to bring in about the same

Watts: 125

Core: 1355

Mem: 2110

Voltages: auto.

Full speed blower fan.

 

 

Seems to really like cancer WU and hate influenza

[BondiBlue]

1 minute ago, BiotechBen said:

480 is bringing in 400-650PPD depending on the WU's I get. One thing to not is that I've got a high bin card from xfx, so a marginal 580 is going to bring in about the same

Core: 1355

Mem: 2110

Voltages: auto.

Full speed blower fan.

Interesting. My Sapphire Pulse RX 580 8GB, which is running at stock settings (1366MHz core, 2000MHz memory, auto voltage, auto fan speed), is currently getting around 750K PPD. I'm pretty impressed with it, especially since it's installed in an old PCIe 2.0 system that's running three total GPUs for F@h. 

 

Thanks for those numbers. Just wasn't sure how much of a difference the 580 was over the 480 for F@h. 

[cbigfoot]

@TVwazhere i may have been board and going though things (I found where i saved a screen shot of my points @513M on my one drive so i looked at my posts back in the day I found it i had not realized there was a Platinum badge at the time... 

Spoiler

 

[cbigfoot]

3 minutes ago, BondiBlue said:

Interesting. My Sapphire Pulse RX 580 8GB, which is running at stock settings (1366MHz core, 2000MHz memory, auto voltage, auto fan speed), is currently getting around 750K PPD. I'm pretty impressed with it, especially since it's installed in an old PCIe 2.0 system that's running three total GPUs for F@h. 

 

Thanks for those numbers. Just wasn't sure how much of a difference the 580 was over the 480 for F@h. 

thats surprising my Rx580 wasnt that poweful i didn't think,,,either way it now lives in FLA in my uncles computer. it could be the points have inflated too along with everything else...then again if its not 1m PPD im not running it currently...

[BondiBlue]

3 minutes ago, cbigfoot said:

thats surprising my Rx580 wasnt that poweful i didn't think,,,either way it now lives in FLA in my uncles computer. it could be the points have inflated too along with everything else...then again if its not 1m PPD im not running it currently...

Heh, I'm not quite at the point where 1 million PPD is my threshold. I've only got a couple cards that get a million PPD. 

[BiotechBen]

22 minutes ago, BondiBlue said:

Heh, I'm not quite at the point where 1 million PPD is my threshold. I've only got a couple cards that get a million PPD. 

The 3050ti (85w) in my laptop and the 480 (125w) I have are about the same Passmark performance, 480 scores about 600k PPD, 3050ti scores 1.2-1.3M PPD. Talk about different architectures and architectural improvements.

[rkv_2401]

Just now, BiotechBen said:

The 3050ti (85w) in my laptop and the 480 (125w) I have are about the same Passmark performance, 480 scores about 600k PPD, 3050ti scores 1.2-1.3M PPD. Talk about different architectures and architectural improvements.

An 85W 3050Ti only does 1.2-1.3M PPD? My 90W 1660Ti mobile can do 1.8M on a good day, if it weren't limited by thermals