LTT Official Folding Month V (2022)

[BiotechBen]

10 minutes ago, NetoriusNick said:

had to make upgrades to my SRX not sure if this is enough CPU cooling 

Another 480/470/580/570!

[NetoriusNick]

2 minutes ago, BiotechBen said:

Another 480/470/580/570!

huh the card? vaga64

 

[BiotechBen]

Just now, NetoriusNick said:

huh the card? vaga64

 

Even better! How's the efficiency on it?

[NetoriusNick]

4 minutes ago, BiotechBen said:

Even better! How's the efficiency on it?

okay have the block to water cool but yet to set it up. gets a good 800-1500 K per day when on linux (if im remembering correctly). Long story but it is currently at my place of work as my main computer and running windows 

[Shlouski]

The time has come to remove the 4090 and install a real gpu. 

 

 

[rkv_2401]

2 hours ago, BiotechBen said:

At 1m ppd at 150W it would be about 66% more PPD than the 480 I have now. It's about 40% as efficient as my 3050ti, for me it was like a good value at $100. And then the 480 becomes a folding month card or goes into the "build a PC for a family member with my old stuff" bin.

 

 

How's the efficiency of 1650/super? See a few of those around $100

Still I would suggest getting at least the 16/20-series cards, the 1070 was a great card but it's now 3 generations old and it's relative efficiency (which is already poor) will likely plummet once the 4070s start rolling out and people undervolt them

 

I'm not sure about the 1650 Super but the 1660Ti is really efficient, and with an undervolt gets 1M PPD @65W (equalling someone's Quadro for power per watt last Folding month).@BondiBluewas talking about their 30W GT 1030 making 100k PPD, this is 10x that at just twice the power draw! Really the sweet spot for price/power draw/performance. I'd say the 2060 is up there too, 1.5-1.8M PPD at 90-100W with an undervolt, but it's probably a fair bit more expensive.

[rkv_2401]

Pretty sure @Gorgon has efficiency curves for all the higher end cards of every generation from Pascal onwards

[NetoriusNick]

2 minutes ago, Shlouski said:

The time has come to remove the 4090 and install a real gpu. 

 

 

hopefully these will do well folding, their price point looks appealing.

[Alex Atkin UK]

10 minutes ago, NetoriusNick said:

hopefully these will do well folding, their price point looks appealing.

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Arc GPU are not supported by FAH for the moment :
- They lack hardware double precision support
- The software implementation of double precision is not reliable enough yet to run FAH

https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=38527

[BiotechBen]

12 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=38527

Really is a shame that Intel wasn't constantly making the graphics significantly better for the iGPUs. Just with how long they've been doing low power graphics, they never really needed it to be better than office tasks and troubleshooting backup graphics.

[Alex Atkin UK]

16 minutes ago, BiotechBen said:

Really is a shame that Intel wasn't constantly making the graphics significantly better for the iGPUs. Just with how long they've been doing low power graphics, they never really needed it to be better than office tasks and troubleshooting backup graphics.

I've not seen much on Ryzen 7000 iGPU either but a quick googling suggests its OpenCL performance is comparable with an Intel(R) Iris(R) Plus Graphics 655 which is disappointing.  The only RDNA 2 GPU I have is in the Steam Deck so I couldn't test that as there aren't any OpenCL drivers for it.

[BiotechBen]

16 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

I've not seen much on Ryzen 7000 iGPU either but a quick googling suggests its OpenCL performance is comparable with an Intel(R) Iris(R) Plus Graphics 655 which is disappointing.  The only RDNA 2 GPU I have is in the Steam Deck so I couldn't test that as there aren't any OpenCL drivers for it.

I can tell you the Cezanne iGPU is very limited as well (5800H) I will admit it seems to be an even more cut down version that's there to run desktop tasks only (512mb VRAM) and when I tried folding, it would super turbo and be godlike for about 2 minutes and then shit the bed. I've got a photo of it turbo-ing to what HWINFO64 said was 6.3ghz.

Edit: rats, I have every photo except that one.

And now it doesn't even want to try to fold on it.

[heimdali]

Did they get the software to work in the meantime?

 

[Lurick]

Excited to be able to join this time

[vsteel]

13 hours ago, cbigfoot said:

I would recommend replacing the harness completely or the psu entirely (if the cable isn't module) out of caution power supplies are finicky and better safe than sorry just my 2 cents

I did replace the harness with one I had around but I will eventually replace the power supply.  It is a SeaSonic but I have had it for a lot of years.

[Birblover12]

8 hours ago, NathansNonsense said:

oh I meant the silver event medal for participating in 3 events, I already have like a billion points

How do you manage to get that many??? I barely get 200K towards the group in one Work Unit, makes me feel inferior with my 3050 with no case fans lol

[Gorgon]

7 hours ago, rkv_2401 said:

Still I would suggest getting at least the 16/20-series cards, the 1070 was a great card but it's now 3 generations old and it's relative efficiency (which is already poor) will likely plummet once the 4070s start rolling out and people undervolt them

 

I'm not sure about the 1650 Super but the 1660Ti is really efficient, and with an undervolt gets 1M PPD @65W (equalling someone's Quadro for power per watt last Folding month).@BondiBluewas talking about their 30W GT 1030 making 100k PPD, this is 10x that at just twice the power draw! Really the sweet spot for price/power draw/performance. I'd say the 2060 is up there too, 1.5-1.8M PPD at 90-100W with an undervolt, but it's probably a fair bit more expensive.

A 1660ti should out-perform a 1070 in terms of yield but I don't think they are necessarily more efficient.

 

I can't speak towards under-volting as I'm on Linux and that's a Windows thing but WRT the relative efficiency of a 1660ti I can say that the 1660ti, unlike other 20-series GPUs which get 20-26kPPD/W at peak efficiency, only gets around 16kPPD/W similar to my 1070ti on similar workloads. The 1000-series (Pascal) can only be power-limited and not clock-limited so it's not an exact apples to apples comparison but a 1070Ti power-limited to 90W (88W actual) gets slightly higher PPD as a 1660ti clock-limited to it's Base Clock (1500MHz) drawing 82W average.

 

My 1660ti may have lost the Silicon Lottery and be a bad performer as it is only a sample size of one but my 2070 supers, of which I have 5, show only about a +/-5-10% variation in peak efficiency.

[IkeaGnome]

7 minutes ago, Birblover12 said:

How do you manage to get that many??? I barely get 200K towards the group in one Work Unit, makes me feel inferior with my 3050 with no case fans lol

I would guess they're one of the people running many cards. There's a few people that do that. Personally, when I have everything running I have 2 1080s, a 2070, a 3070 and 2 quadro M4000s folding. 

I did just get a killer deal on a pair of R9 390s working bundled with 2 broken R9 furys. The 390s will add about 1.2m ppd. and if I can get the furys running they'll be about another 1.2m with the pair. There's more power efficient cards yes, but the deal was just too good. 

Most of my house heat in winter comes from computers.

[RollinLower]

8 hours ago, Shlouski said:

The time has come to remove the 4090 and install a real gpu. 

but will it blend fold??

[Shlouski]

2 minutes ago, RollinLower said:

but will it blend fold??

No

[dogwitch]

15 minutes ago, Shlouski said:

No

yeah  it will. just need more power!!!!!!!! (press folding it  )

[IkeaGnome]

15 minutes ago, Shlouski said:

No

That's a shame. Because it's not whitelisted, or is there something else?

[justpoet]

3 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

That's a shame. Because it's not whitelisted, or is there something else?

Needs better drivers to do math correctly.

[RollinLower]

2 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

That's a shame. Because it's not whitelisted, or is there something else?

i'm guessing it's just not whitelisted yet. pretty curious what these can do PPD wise though.

sadly the only A7xx card available here is the asrock model. and that is over 380 euros for an A750????

[IkeaGnome]

4 minutes ago, justpoet said:

Needs better drivers to do math correctly.

I'll have to keep an eye out for those drivers.

4 minutes ago, RollinLower said:

i'm guessing it's just not whitelisted yet. pretty curious what these can do PPD wise though.

sadly the only A7xx card available here is the asrock model. and that is over 380 euros for an A750????

I am curious too. I've got an A750 that should be showing up in my PO box any day now. Right around $310 shipped.