video editng hi, i need to build a very good pc for 4k video editing

[AlyShazli]

Budget (including currency): 1500 - 2500 USD

Country: Egypt 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: premiere pro, media encoder, after effects, photoshop, audition, google chrome, word, notepad++.. maybe some modern 2024 games why the heck not!

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):

i need to build a fresh 4k setup for video editing, new components all around, preferably no water cooling because i'm kinda boomer i don't know..

i could reuse my 1600 x 900 monitor? , maybe also reuse 40 gigs of ddr4 ram (not sure would be ideal for the new setup)..

- quick note: i don't wanna cheap out on performance, don't wanna cheap out on 4k video editing conveniency!

- side note: if daddy Linus can help me with this build (i'm not that entitled) then i'd be grateful for the rest of my life, i might actually be able to travel to work for him as an editor if there's a chance (now i'm actually reaching, but i gotta shoot my shot and earn an honest buck, also would be the best thing that could ever happen to me and i'll forever be grateful)

thank you very much for your time and recommendations

[monopoly_hater]

firsty give up any hope daddy linus will hire you unless you are the crème de la crème of editors.

For the build: how much in your local currency is your budget?

[AlyShazli]

1 minute ago, anirudthelinuxwIzard said:

firsty give up any hope daddy linus will hire you unless you are the crème de la crème of editors.

For the build: how much in your local currency is your budget?

you'd be surprised.. also his videos are not that advanced in terms of video editing anyway! basically trimming, some jump cuts, some minor graphics, background music, animated text for intros if suitable and that's it, but what do you know? 

don't worry i can live without working for Linus

the budget is clarified in the post..

[SkilledRebuilds]

Both AMD and Nvidia have Super Resolution tech you can increase your 1600x900 desktop real estate by using those with less scaling.

 

Example on my 1080p 100% scale monitor I can set desktop to 4K 200% scale for the same real estate, but 4K at 125-150% gives more breathing room for app layouts and user interfaces.

You could do the same for the 1600x900 panel, whether its primary or secondary monitor, it will work the same.

[monopoly_hater]

31 minutes ago, AlyShazli said:

you'd be surprised.. also his videos are not that advanced in terms of video editing anyway! basically trimming, some jump cuts, some minor graphics, background music, animated text for intros if suitable and that's it, but what do you know? 

don't worry i can live without working for Linus

the budget is clarified in the post..

I didn't suggest you were a bad editor, I just said if you want him to hire a foreign national you need to be worth you salt.

Here's a PCPP list:  dangit there isnt pcpartpicker for egypt

I had to go a bit over budget for this because stuff is really expensive in egypt, if you think it's to expensive swap the 14700K with a 14600K or 12700K.

Core i7 14700K
MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WiFi
4x16GB DDR5 6000 Corsair Vengance RAM
The cheapest 4070 Super or 7800 XT you can get your hands on.
Corsair RM850e PSU
Samsung 990 Pro 2TB SSD
WD Black 8.0 TB HDD for bulk storage/backups
Lian Li Lancool 216

 

[AlyShazli]

2 minutes ago, anirudthelinuxwIzard said:

I didn't suggest you were a bad editor, I just said if you want him to hire a foreign national you need to be worth you salt.

Here's a PCPP list:  dangit there isnt pcpartpicker for egypt

I had to go a bit over budget for this because stuff is really expensive in egypt, if you think it's to expensive swap the 14700K with a 14600K or 12700K.

Core i7 14700K
MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WiFi
4x16GB DDR5 6000 Corsair Vengance RAM
The cheapest 4070 Super or 7800 XT you can get your hands on.
Corsair RM850e PSU
Samsung 990 Pro 2TB SSD
WD Black 8.0 TB HDD for bulk storage/backups
Lian Li Lancool 216

 

thank you very much for the recommendations, i really appreciate it!

[AlyShazli]

11 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

Both AMD and Nvidia have Super Resolution tech you can increase your 1600x900 desktop real estate by using those with less scaling.

 

Example on my 1080p 100% scale monitor I can set desktop to 4K 200% scale for the same real estate, but 4K at 125-150% gives more breathing room for app layouts and user interfaces.

You could do the same for the 1600x900 panel, whether its primary or secondary monitor, it will work the same.

thank you very much for the tip!

[monopoly_hater]

1 minute ago, AlyShazli said:

thank you very much for the recommendations, i really appreciate it!

Your welcome, but I actually forgot to add that you should probably get a 360 mil AIO to cool the darn thing.

[AlyShazli]

Just now, anirudthelinuxwIzard said:

Your welcome, but I actually forgot to add that you should probably get a 360 mil AIO to cool the darn thing.

would definitely consider that, thank you for the heads up brother!

[monopoly_hater]

Just now, AlyShazli said:

would definitely consider that, thank you for the heads up brother!

no problem, if you need help trimming costs or something feel free to ask!

[monopoly_hater]

2 minutes ago, AlyShazli said:

would definitely consider that, thank you for the heads up brother!

and to be VERY CLEAR the 14700k does not come with a cooler, for air coolers the only things that wouldn't throttle it would be a NH-D15, Peerless Assassin, or Phantom Spirit, but even so water cooling is recommended

[venomtail]

1 hour ago, AlyShazli said:

40 gigs of ddr4

What speed and timing

[AlyShazli]

7 minutes ago, venomtail said:

What speed and timing

all i know it's 3200 something like that 

[AlyShazli]

13 minutes ago, anirudthelinuxwIzard said:

and to be VERY CLEAR the 14700k does not come with a cooler, for air coolers the only things that wouldn't throttle it would be a NH-D15, Peerless Assassin, or Phantom Spirit, but even so water cooling is recommended

thank you! you're quite the tech wizard i see  

[AlyShazli]

17 minutes ago, anirudthelinuxwIzard said:

no problem, if you need help trimming costs or something feel free to ask!

thank you very much!

[venomtail]

9 minutes ago, AlyShazli said:

all i know it's 3200 something like that 

Do you mean 2 24GB RAM stick at 3200MHz? 20GB is an unconventional amount so something's not default here as nobody sells "X0 GB" of any configuration.

[AlyShazli]

15 minutes ago, venomtail said:

Do you mean 2 24GB RAM stick at 3200MHz? 20GB is an unconventional amount so something's not default here as nobody sells "X0 GB" of any configuration.

one is 8 gb and the other 32 gb

[TatamiMatt]

52 minutes ago, anirudthelinuxwIzard said:

I didn't suggest you were a bad editor, I just said if you want him to hire a foreign national you need to be worth you salt.

Here's a PCPP list:  dangit there isnt pcpartpicker for egypt

I had to go a bit over budget for this because stuff is really expensive in egypt, if you think it's to expensive swap the 14700K with a 14600K or 12700K.

Core i7 14700K
MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WiFi
4x16GB DDR5 6000 Corsair Vengance RAM
The cheapest 4070 Super or 7800 XT you can get your hands on.
Corsair RM850e PSU
Samsung 990 Pro 2TB SSD
WD Black 8.0 TB HDD for bulk storage/backups
Lian Li Lancool 216

 

@AlyShazli, just my 2 cents on the bove, overall good build but id get 2x32gb DIMMS (RAM sticks) as they will run better and slightly faster as DDR5 is more picky than previous RAM generations. Also get 6000CL30 as latency matters as well as speed, i.e. 6000CL42 is actually somewhat slow.

This is dependant on RAM prices in egypt though so, grain of salt.

 

Id go for the Nvidia GPU as these can be better for some productivity needs. 

 

For the NVMe drive, you could save some money and go for another brand and have much the same speeds, but up to you on 1. the spending, and 2. dont take this advice at face value, again grain of salt. If samsung are the cheapest or priced in and around the other drives of the same caliber then its a fine choice, only if it is quite a bit more expensive then search around for others to get a feel for what youd like price-performance wise.

[AlyShazli]

9 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

@AlyShazli, just my 2 cents on the bove, overall good build but id get 2x32gb DIMMS (RAM sticks) as they will run better and slightly faster as DDR5 is more picky than previous RAM generations. Also get 6000CL30 as latency matters as well as speed, i.e. 6000CL42 is actually somewhat slow.

This is dependant on RAM prices in egypt though so, grain of salt.

 

Id go for the Nvidia GPU as these can be better for some productivity needs. 

 

For the NVMe drive, you could save some money and go for another brand and have much the same speeds, but up to you on 1. the spending, and 2. dont take this advice at face value, again grain of salt. If samsung are the cheapest or priced in and around the other drives of the same caliber then its a fine choice, only if it is quite a bit more expensive then search around for others to get a feel for what youd like price-performance wise.

thank you very much for adding on that build! i'm gathering info as much as possible to properly decide what to get, i can also order online from another country...

[monopoly_hater]

On 6/21/2024 at 12:59 PM, AlyShazli said:

thank you very much for adding on that build! i'm gathering info as much as possible to properly decide what to get, i can also order online from another country...

@AlyShazli yes, because of signal latency integrity issues, ddr5 is hard to run on 4 sticks. it SHOULD be fine at 6000 MHZ but from experience 6400 and above gets finicky. The reason I had used a 4x16 config is because I could not find 32 gig dimm at 6000 mhz on amazon.eg and I'm not familiar with other electronics retailers in Egypt.

Regarding the SSD, Samsung, while pricey, does have a track record of reliable SSDs, but these days all SSDs last so long you would want to replace them long before they fail, so get whatever you want if price is a issue, but watch out for these things:

Get from a known brand: or else you could end up with counterfeit poor quality NAND .
Make sure to get a TLC SSD: if you find a MLC or SLC SSD (although I don't know how how you would), then those are fine too, but don't get a QLC (or if your building in the future PLC) SSD. Those are slower, and less reliable.

Make sure the SSD you are looking at has a DRAM cache or Host Memory Buffer (although some manufacturers use different names for this, so feel free to ask if you are confused).

Check the endurance rating : A good rule of thumb is at minimum 150 TBW per 256GB, these days even a super budget SSD like the TeamGroup MP33 has such a rating.


Good luck!

Edited June 23, 2024 by anirudthelinuxwIzard

[monopoly_hater]

33 minutes ago, AlyShazli said:

thank you very much for adding on that build! i'm gathering info as much as possible to properly decide what to get, i can also order online from another country...

also watch out for the nvidia GPU if you use Linux, else it is the better option, I recommended the 7800 XT as well for this reason

[SkilledRebuilds]

1 hour ago, AlyShazli said:

thank you very much for the tip!

AMDs version is called Virtual Super Resolution (VSR)

 

Nvidia's version is called Dynamic Super Resolution (DSR) Ignore DLDSR its a 1.68x and 2.25x option you dont need.

You want DSR 4X scaling.

 

Then after setting your desktop to this new 4x Resolution, you set the windows scaling in Windows display options to suit your preferences for desktop real estate. EG  100%/125%/150%

200% takes you back to what 1600x900 already scales to.

 

With Nvidia (what I use)

You'd set the DSR 4x option (as 1 window scales 2x2 into a 4x window perfectly)

So you can set the DSR filtering option to 0% (located right under the DSR option menu, once enabled) the Filtering isn't needed at the 4x option.

[AlyShazli]

13 minutes ago, anirudthelinuxwIzard said:

@AlyShazli yes, because of signal latency issues, ddr5 is hard to run on 4 sticks. it SHOULD be fine at 6000 MHZ but from experience 6400 and above gets finicky. The reason I had used a 4x16 config is because I could not find 32 gig dimm at 6000 mhz on amazon.eg and I'm not familiar with other electronics retailers in Egypt.

Regarding the SSD, Samsung, while pricey, does have a track record of reliable SSDs, but these days all SSDs last so long you would want to replace them long before they fail, so get whatever you want if price is a issue, but watch out for these things:

Get from a known brand: or else you could end up with counterfeit poor quality NAND .
Make sure to get a TLC SSD: if you find a MLC or SLC SSD (although I don't know how how you would), then those are fine too, but don't get a QLC (or if your building in the future PLC) SSD. Those are slower, and less reliable.

Make sure the SSD you are looking at has a DRAM cache or Host Memory Buffer (although some manufacturers use different names for this, so feel free to ask if you are confused).

Check the endurance rating : A good rule of thumb is at minimum 150 TBW per 256GB, these days even a super budget SSD like the TeamGroup MP33 has such a rating.


Good luck!

thank you very much, lots of valuable info!

[AlyShazli]

2 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

AMDs version is Called Virtual Super Resolution (VSR), Nvidia's version is called Dynamic Super Resolution (DSR)

 

With Nvidia (what I use)

You'd set the DSR 4x option (as 1 window scales 2x2 into a 4x window perfectly)

So you can set the DSR filtering option to 0% (located right under the DSR option menu, once enabled.

Filtering isn't needed at the 4x option.

appreciate the explanation, thank you!

[AlyShazli]

13 minutes ago, anirudthelinuxwIzard said:

also watch out for the nvidia GPU if you use Linux, else it is the better option, I recommended the 7800 XT as well for this reason

thank you! i use windows...