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25 minutes ago, WolframaticAlpha said:

You spend more time trying to install everything, than it would take to open that damn door manually for the next 50 years.

 

 

And that doesn't inlude the time spent youtubing, searching and improvising your setup.

Yeah. Maybe when new-build and refurbished houses come outfitted with this stuff by default and all you have to do is add your favourite voice assistant and scan something with your smartphone to set it all up automatically - which I think could happen in the future if the industry gets a move on - then it will start to become useful to some people. But it will still be clunky, and of course some people will still be in older homes.

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1 hour ago, pythonmegapixel said:

Yeah. Maybe when new-build and refurbished houses come outfitted with this stuff by default and all you have to do is add your favourite voice assistant and scan something with your smartphone to set it all up automatically - which I think could happen in the future if the industry gets a move on - then it will start to become useful to some people. But it will still be clunky, and of course some people will still be in older homes.

I would never buy a house with corporate surveillance equipment installed.

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15 hours ago, pythonmegapixel said:

Factually, that's true, but if you're trying to imply that this is because it's not good enough for general use, that's where you're not correct. The only reason it isn't competitive is because it can't market itself.

 

There are now Linux distributions which are absolutely fine for most desktop use cases. The problem is that being free and nonprofit, no single distribution can afford to market itself to OEMs and the public enough to gain significant market share. And it's fragmented, so just marketing "linux" would do no good. With that comes no incentive to make it easier for people to get started in, as it's expected that everyone will have a technical background.

And that, in turn, leads to a classic chicken and egg problem. You need more developers onboard to make Linux easy to set up and to produce software which works well with it, but they won't develop for a platform with no users. So you need users to be using the platform, but they won't switch to anything which doesn't have developer support.

 

You want proof? Look at ChromeOS. It's what happens if you have a Linux distribution with a simple vision/purpose, with a large company behind it capable of marketing to the general public. and effort put in to make the experience easy. And boy did the general public buy it. Yes, it may be derided on here, but we'd all pretty much be considered "power users".

I have an unpopular opinion for you.

Widespread linux adoption would be terrible for linux.

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1 hour ago, starry said:

I have an unpopular opinion for you.

Widespread linux adoption would be terrible for linux.

Ah, elitism.

 

SCKLSS would be proud.

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Not just tech only, but I'm probably the only one who is NOT satisfied at all by peeling the plastic film off of a product. Whether it is a case window, gpu or anything.

Heck, I even leave the film on in case I need to RMA it. Even when I'm sure about that, I leave it on because it gives extra protection and prevents fingerprints on the (glossy) surface. It's also good for selling purposes later if I need to.

I only do the peel if it's really necessary, let's say to reach buttons or an entire monitor screen.

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1 hour ago, starry said:

I would never buy a house with corporate surveillance equipment installed.

yeah, me neither. I wouldn't want them spying on my.... uhm.... activities

1 minute ago, FRD said:

Not just tech only, but I'm probably the only one who is NOT satisfied at all by peeling the plastic film off of a product. Whether it is a case window, gpu or anything.

No Indian ever peels off the plastic. They think that when the time comes to flip their 10 year old TV, the piece of plastic would dramatically increase their prices.

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12 minutes ago, WolframaticAlpha said:

yeah, me neither. I wouldn't want them spying on my.... uhm.... activities

No Indian ever peels off the plastic. They think that when the time comes to flip their 10 year old TV, the piece of plastic would dramatically increase their prices.

I never knew they did that, guess it's a cultural thing then. I think I can't stand looking at a screen with a protector on it, it bugs me then. Only works for smartphones, but it must be applied properly.

Your reply reminds me of something unrelated, in some Asian countries they use tinted glass add-on screens in front of their CRT TVs to supposedly block the TVs bad radiation.

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14 hours ago, pythonmegapixel said:

How is it more useful? I can run a browser on top of Windows just fine.

I think somewhere along 90-99% of computer users are satisfied with their os and hardware as long as they can resonably run a browser, manage 1080p video playback and other lightweight apps such as basic excel and microsoft teams. Unless they have some propietary stuff they need windows for. Chromebooks have no windows license makes the machine cheaper and it dosent have a lot of fat bloating the price. 

 

I disagree that its more usefull but i agree that theyre underrated machines.

 

 

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4 hours ago, WolframaticAlpha said:

Ah, elitism.

 

SCKLSS would be proud.

I dont care who uses linux and who doesnt. But Im very selfish and I dont want the malware space to switch its focus onto the thing I use.

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6 hours ago, starry said:

I have an unpopular opinion for you.

Widespread linux adoption would be terrible for linux.

It depends how you define what makes Linux "good". In reality, there will still be distros with a higher barrier to entry than others, if that's what you're concerned about.

 

In reality, the main benefit would come from open-source. If one distro becomes too commercialised people just build another one. With Windows you can't do that.

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By the way, my desktop is a docked laptop. Get over it, No seriously, I have an exterrnal monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, ethernet and cooling fans all connected. Using it feels no different to a desktop, it works for several hours if the power goes out, and disconnecting just a few cables gives me something I can take on the go. There's enough power for all games I play and it even copes with basic (and some not-so-basic) video editing. Give it a go - you might just love it.

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2 minutes ago, pythonmegapixel said:

It depends how you define what makes Linux "good". In reality, there will still be distros with a higher barrier to entry than others, if that's what you're concerned about.

 

In reality, the main benefit would come from open-source. If one distro becomes too commercialised people just build another one. With Windows you can't do that.

Im not worried about high barrier distros phasing out. I use manjaro which is about as easy as it gets.

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11 minutes ago, starry said:

Im not worried about high barrier distros phasing out. I use manjaro which is about as easy as it gets.

So why would mainstream adoption be terrible for Linux then? I'm not really understanding your argument here.

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Thanks for reading all this by the way!

By the way, my desktop is a docked laptop. Get over it, No seriously, I have an exterrnal monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, ethernet and cooling fans all connected. Using it feels no different to a desktop, it works for several hours if the power goes out, and disconnecting just a few cables gives me something I can take on the go. There's enough power for all games I play and it even copes with basic (and some not-so-basic) video editing. Give it a go - you might just love it.

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6 minutes ago, pythonmegapixel said:

So why would mainstream adoption be terrible for Linux then? I'm not really understanding your argument here.

Because Im just some person on the internet with nothing else to be angry about. I dont actually have any good points thats why i participate in youtube comments

 

Honesty I am afraid of it becoming too corporate, but I guess with the way you put it, that people would just make their own distro, I cant really argue with that and I my have to rethink my stance on this. Or at least why i feel that way.

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5 minutes ago, starry said:

Because Im just some person on the internet with nothing else to be angry about. I dont actually have any good points thats why i participate in youtube comments

 

Honesty I am afraid of it becoming too corporate, but I guess with the way you put it, that people would just make their own distro, I cant really argue with that and I my have to rethink my stance on this.

That makes a lot of sense actually now I think about it. Even if people build new distros, the OEMs will still ship the commercialised ones, and how many average users are going to want to change their Linux distro if they can avoid?

 

Worst case scenario is every manufacturer 'rolls their own' and puts their own crap on it - then we're effectively at the same point as Android devices, where there's hardly any consistency between manufacturers and your machine could come with preinstalled spyware direct from the manufacturer that you literally can't remove.

 

Wow, I've actually had a worthwhile discussion on a forum which has caused constructive thought and consideration and a slight shift in position from both participants, without either coming across as rude or offensive to the other. Whatever next?

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Thanks for reading all this by the way!

By the way, my desktop is a docked laptop. Get over it, No seriously, I have an exterrnal monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, ethernet and cooling fans all connected. Using it feels no different to a desktop, it works for several hours if the power goes out, and disconnecting just a few cables gives me something I can take on the go. There's enough power for all games I play and it even copes with basic (and some not-so-basic) video editing. Give it a go - you might just love it.

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Just now, pythonmegapixel said:

Whatever next?

The people who refuse to change their position accidentally push the self-destruct button on their PC, their PC explodes, and the house collapses on them and they die.

/s

 

Unpopular tech opinion:
The 3DS's 3D feature was cool, and Nintendo should make a Switch with 3D.

 

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3 minutes ago, pythonmegapixel said:

That makes a lot of sense actually now I think about it. Even if people build new distros, the OEMs will still ship the commercialised ones, and how many average users are going to want to change their Linux distro if they can avoid?

 

Worst case scenario is every manufacturer 'rolls their own' and puts their own crap on it - then we're effectively at the same point as Android devices, where there's hardly any consistency between manufacturers and your machine could come with preinstalled spyware direct from the manufacturer that you literally can't remove.

 

Wow, I've actually had a worthwhile discussion on a forum which has caused constructive thought and consideration and a slight shift in position from both participants, without either coming across as rude or offensive to the other. Whatever next?

Yeah the linux space ending up like android would be no good. Imagine HP or Lenovo shipping a ubuntu laptop with tons of bloatware. Of course free distros like the ones that exist now will always be around.

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1 minute ago, FakeKGB said:

Unpopular tech opinion:
The 3DS's 3D feature was cool, and Nintendo should make a Switch with 3D.

 

I think that was probably pretty popular, but only among the people who could cope with the 3D effect

Personally I don't cope very well with it as it made me feel slightly ill (and I didn't have a 3DS; I played with friends' occasionally and always left the 3D off)

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Thanks for reading all this by the way!

By the way, my desktop is a docked laptop. Get over it, No seriously, I have an exterrnal monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, ethernet and cooling fans all connected. Using it feels no different to a desktop, it works for several hours if the power goes out, and disconnecting just a few cables gives me something I can take on the go. There's enough power for all games I play and it even copes with basic (and some not-so-basic) video editing. Give it a go - you might just love it.

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35 minutes ago, pythonmegapixel said:

It depends how you define what makes Linux "good". In reality, there will still be distros with a higher barrier to entry than others, if that's what you're concerned about.

 

In reality, the main benefit would come from open-source. If one distro becomes too commercialised people just build another one. With Windows you can't do that.

“Would be”?  There are fricken garage door openers that run on Linux these days.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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7 minutes ago, pythonmegapixel said:

I think that was probably pretty popular, but only among the people who could cope with the 3D effect

Personally I don't cope very well with it as it made me feel slightly ill (and I didn't have a 3DS; I played with friends' occasionally and always left the 3D off)

I can handle it fine, but I think Nintendo needs to rework it a bit. It only works if you're a certain distance away from the screen and at the right angle.

Otherwise you have three of the same image that are off from each other.

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6 minutes ago, FakeKGB said:

It only works if you're a certain distance away from the screen and at the right angle.

Face tracking in the new 3ds mostly solves that.

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Just now, Craftyawesome said:

Face tracking in the new 3ds mostly solves that.

I have a New Nintendo 3DS XL (super long name, can see why the meme "New Nintendo 23DSi XL Lite" was created) and it has the same problems. At more than a 20 degree angle? Welcome to glitchy screen land?

Did you move it too far away?
Now there's three images on the screen!

 

When it does work, though, it's amazing. It seems like the screen extends behind the 3DS.

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26 minutes ago, FakeKGB said:

I have a New Nintendo 3DS XL (super long name, can see why the meme "New Nintendo 23DSi XL Lite" was created) and it has the same problems. At more than a 20 degree angle? Welcome to glitchy screen land?

Did you move it too far away?
Now there's three images on the screen!

 

When it does work, though, it's amazing. It seems like the screen extends behind the 3DS.

Ignoring super quick motions, 20 degrees is quite a bit to accidentally move. The distance range isn't really better than OK, though.

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On 9/18/2019 at 6:41 PM, Guest said:

Ever feel like you were alone in what you thought about technology today? I sure have, so I thought I'd create this thread to see if we're truly as alone as we may think. So ITT, list off a few items that seems go against the grain when it comes to mainstream tech ideas. I'll start.

 

1. High end specs in a phone (ie 12GB of RAM) are a waste of money to both produce and buy

 

2. 'Safety features' in a modern vehicles, like applying the brakes for you, will create bad driving habits and bad drivers overall

 

3. Voice assistants are a bad idea

Aight, let's give this a shot.

 

1. "Lightweight" gaming nice are a waste of.time. I'd much rather have a heavier mouse with some features than a lightweight one. 

 

2. The H500I looks worse than NZXT's old S340 Elite. 

 

3. Social Media is a serious leech, and I'm glad I ditched all of it (besides discord, if you believe it to be a social media platform.) 

 

4. I don't see the point in spending $1000+ on a laptop, outside of "serious work" situations (editing, CAD, etc)

 

5. nvidia shouldn't have been praised for the price drops on the 30 series. I don't get praised if I shit the bed and then clean it up, and neither should they.

 

 

 

Anyways can't wait to be proven wrong on all these.

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umm people that use iphone don't use there full potential.

also androids are awesome even my 100USD nokia 3.1C I like it better than my old ip6s

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8 minutes ago, sub68 said:

umm people that use iphone don't use there full potential.

also androids are awesome even my 100USD nokia 3.1C I like it better than my old ip6s

I don't really think that's an opinion, more of a fact. And not just with iPhone users, but most smartphone users in general.

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