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I don't get why people like/want wirelesscharging?

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On 9/7/2019 at 12:03 PM, kelvinhall05 said:

Call me back when I can rig a room up with wireless charging so that my phone will charge as long as it's in that room.

 

 

Maybe not that extreme, but you know what I mean. Current wireless charging is pointless.

Its been already done by the mouse team...

 

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1 hour ago, Dabombinable said:

Ever had the charging port wear out or break on a phone? That's why. The drawbacks are worth it, also you don't even need to use wireless charging, you can still use the cable. So its not a bad thing.

No, although I take care of my stuff, with micro USB I always wore out the clip on the cable that holds it in the port. Wireless charging isn't worth it over plugging the phone in IMO, but it's nice as a feature to have.

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Let's face it.  Cable "PORTS" Wear out, some severely quick.   After a few month's of use, every phones charging port gets "Loose" and beat up from plugging it in and out too much. 


Wireless charging is just Convenient.  Say for example, your about to lay down to sleep. set your phone down, and that's it. 1.2.3.  Quick and easy.

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1 hour ago, Blademaster91 said:

No, although I take care of my stuff, with micro USB I always wore out the clip on the cable that holds it in the port. Wireless charging isn't worth it over plugging the phone in IMO, but it's nice as a feature to have.

The phone that broke for me was only a $50 one (and after 2 years), that being said the USB ports do wear out rapidly, especially if you are someone who charges their phone daily.
Cables themselves can be a problem as well. Even being careful I'm still onto my 5th micro b cable. And my current phone was only bought in March 2018

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It's nice to have both charging features on a phone. I can charge with a cable at home, but when I'm at work and say I forgot my charging cable, if there is wireless charging, I can use that. Slow wireless charging is better than no charging especially when you don't have your charging cable.

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yeaaa i tend to keep my phones for several years at a time and have never had a charging port wear out to the point it doesn't work.. and i mean at home keep 1 charging cable plugged in, it takes just as long to stick the usb cable in the phone as it does to set it down... in the end wireless charging is a gimmick at this stage untill i can walk in a room and have my phone start charging.

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10 hours ago, DesolationGod said:

have never had a charging port wear out to the point it doesn't work

On my first smart phone I used to have to wrap the charging cable around the phone when it was Plugged in. Just to get it to charge, because of an issue with the charging port. So yeah, they can wear out. While its likely to be less if your phone uses a type C connector, Im not sure about the lightning connector but id imagine its a bit more durable than USB Micro B. 

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The charging cable saved my phone multiple times from falling due to my linus side.

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my moms phones charging port broke.

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11 hours ago, DesolationGod said:

yeaaa i tend to keep my phones for several years at a time and have never had a charging port wear out to the point it doesn't work.. and i mean at home keep 1 charging cable plugged in, it takes just as long to stick the usb cable in the phone as it does to set it down... in the end wireless charging is a gimmick at this stage untill i can walk in a room and have my phone start charging.

No it's not. Most modern cars have wireless charging, caffee's have wireless chargers and they all work without any cable and with ANY capable phone. It doesn't matter what kind of port you have on a phone, it'll work And it's relatively quick despite wireles losses.

 

Even charging rooms will be a gimmick. When everything will be wirelessly charged, then it's gonna be cool. Wirelessly powered cars, phones, laptops, desktop systems, you name it. Unless we figure out portable power source immensely better than current crappy batteries...

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1. small bedroom with small table, If I need to do my paper work, I can move away the keyboard.

2. It doesn't need extra cable. I had wireless charging mouse pad to charge my phone.

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I use wireless charging out of convenience, nothing else ?‍♂️

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I disagree. I don't personally own a wireless charger but I recently used one after thinking what you were. Really like what others have said, its a convince thing. For example at work at a desk, its pretty convenient to have the phone sitting in front of you and you can just pick it up and put it down and it stays charged seamlessly. People will pay for the convenience, no matter how much you personally think you'll just put up with a cable. The charging pads aren't even that expensive. Its a convenience many people want, and is easily affordable. I can see someone scoffing at someone rich paying a stupid amount of money for a convenience, but wireless charging is at the point where its not a frivolity like that. Its affordable and makes life easier, people will want it and buy it.

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On 9/7/2019 at 2:03 PM, kelvinhall05 said:

Call me back when I can rig a room up with wireless charging so that my phone will charge as long as it's in that room.

 

 

Maybe not that extreme, but you know what I mean. Current wireless charging is pointless.

Disney showed this off many years ago. They were able to push 50ws in a decently sized room. Concern was unknown health risks but they were going to use it in waiting areas in theme parks

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It sounds like you dislike wireless charging for some pretty nonsensical reasons.

 

1. Ok, so don't use the phone when you're charging it? Most phones should be able to last you the day. Toss the phone on the cradle during the night, and your problem is solved. Or, here's a novel idea, don't touch your phone for the maybe hour it takes to charge. That shouldn't be a hard feat. If you really need to use your phone while it charges, why not just get one of the cradle style chargers? Problem solved.

2. They're slower than fast chargers, sure, but they're still vastly faster than most standard chargers included with the majority of phones if you get a decent one.

3. True, but they're getting there. It's still relatively new technology, you can't really expect perfection from the get go.

 

Here's a few pretty convenient uses for wireless charging:

1. When you're out and about, in a cafe or similar public place. Having them built into tables etc is the best way to offer charging services.

2. Same as above but in vehicles.

3. In the morning you don't need to fumble with cables. Just pick up your phone and go. Same with when you plug it in, you don't need to go hunting for cables.

4. How often do you just put your phone down on your desk while you're doing something else? Why not have a charging pad there, and it'll get a charge without you even really thinking about it?

 

On 9/8/2019 at 7:20 AM, PotatoCanDo! said:

My experience when I saw a wireless charger dock before knowing that such device is even exsist in public, I thought it was a small speaker. When I relize that is a wireless charger I was cluelessly put my phone on it, and it didn't charge my phone. What?!

 

Later on, I found that I need a wireless charging supported phone to use that. I was like, "meh." what's the point of wireless charger when it can't simply charge all the phone out there which doesn't have special feature, right?

Well obviously you'd have to have a phone with the hardware built into it to accept wireless charging. It's not pointless because the phone you have didn't happen to have the required hardware.

21 hours ago, Drak3 said:

No, they won't. For a very simple reason too: USB accessories.

Apple has said before they plan to rid phones of all ports. It's coming, accessories be damned.

18 hours ago, Drak3 said:

Doesn't work for phone fans, lights, USB sticks, USB OTG, HDMI adapters, and similar accessories.

Haha, sure, but how many people are really using those? Not many. With most new TVs and such, HDMI adapters aren't needed either.

18 hours ago, Caroline said:

Some people are so lazy they don't want even want to plug in a cable.

Or, you know, there's the convenience factor of it. I'd do it more for aesthetics than anything else. Having cables hanging everywhere annoys me.

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1 hour ago, dizmo said:

1. Ok, so don't use the phone when you're charging it? Most phones should be able to last you the day. Toss the phone on the cradle during the night, and your problem is solved. Or, here's a novel idea, don't touch your phone for the maybe hour it takes to charge. That shouldn't be a hard feat. If you really need to use your phone while it charges, why not just get one of the cradle style chargers? Problem solved.

2. They're slower than fast chargers, sure, but they're still vastly faster than most standard chargers included with the majority of phones if you get a decent one.

3. True, but they're getting there. It's still relatively new technology, you can't really expect perfection from the get go.

1. That seems rather backwards, if i need to use the phone its much more convenient to just plug it in, but wireless charging is a feature I'd use on occasion to prevent the charge port from wearing out.  And everyone had the same excuse of "just don't use your phone while charging it" with manufacturers taking away the 3.5mm jack to save a few cents, seems a lot less convenient to me to not be able to use the device whenever I'd like.

2. Even mid range phones come with 10-15w fast chargers nowadays, wireless charging heats up the battery and is much less efficient. Extra heat on the battery is an issue especially since manufacturers insist on gluing phones shut for "water resistance" instead of replaceable batteries.

3. Wireless charging isn't anything new, and its still worse than plugging it into the wall.

1 hour ago, dizmo said:

Here's a few pretty convenient uses for wireless charging:

1. When you're out and about, in a cafe or similar public place. Having them built into tables etc is the best way to offer charging services.

2. Same as above but in vehicles.

3. In the morning you don't need to fumble with cables. Just pick up your phone and go. Same with when you plug it in, you don't need to go hunting for cables.

4. How often do you just put your phone down on your desk while you're doing something else? Why not have a charging pad there, and it'll get a charge without you even really thinking about it?

1. It doesn't make sense to implement wireless chargers everywhere from a cost standpoint unless all phones have wireless charging.

2. I have no problem plugging my phone in if I need to in the car although I can usually get through a whole day without charging my phone.

3. It only takes a few seconds to unplug a phone and grab a cable, or just keep an extra one in the car.

4. Unless battery tech significantly improves, constantly setting down your phone to charge is terrible for battery health.

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I keep a wired and wireless charger by my bed.  If I need some quick juice for my phone, well my iPad charger can also be used as a fast charger according to Apple.  Otherwise, I set it on the wireless charger when I go to bed to sleep.

I'm sleeping, can't use my phone while I'm sleeping.

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It doesn't matter what you play games on, just play good games you enjoy.

 

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My friend has Galaxy S9 and has a car mount with wireless charging, which is cool for 9 months of the year and useless for 3 because the phone's so hot, it won't charge without cable, even with A/C the sun and wireless charging and maximum brightness(because it's sunny af) means it loses more energy than it gets.

 

I'd pay up to $20 for wireless charging to be in my phone, it's the maximum it's worth imo.

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I'm using a oneplus 5 right now. And one of the big reasons I didn't get the new one yet is that it still misses wireless charging. Honestly its not that big of a deal. But I don't see a reason to upgrade yet. So I'm waiting for them to incorporate this convenient feature.(or my current one to break)

 

I wouldn't use it if i needed a fast charge. But it would be really handy to use in the car or at my desk. I'm working in IT so I have to leave my desk fairly regular. A cable is really cumbersome in those situations. And lets be honest how many times did a colleague or you yourself forget your charger. Mainstream wireless charging adoption mean our offices will come default with some solution in place. Bonuspoints if it can charge other devices itself.(like the new galaxy can)

 

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My phone supports wireless charging and came with a charging pad, but I prefer to charge it over USB 2.0 instead.  Slower charging is more healthy for the battery in the long run and I fully intend to keep this phone for at least 5 years.

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On 9/7/2019 at 2:59 PM, Altruist said:

Just to begin im an anti-wireless charging guy or anything i just see why it liked so much, and heres why.

 

1. it's harder to use the phone while it's charging

2. it charger MUCH slower then current charging tech (samsung, huawei, oppo or even usb pd)

3. it's not as efficient as wired charging (energy loss)

 

Guys change my mind, tell me the advantages of wireless charging and why you think its good :D

 

It's useful if when you go to sleep just throw the phone onto the wireless charger and go to sleep instead of finding the cable. But I see what you mean it is quite useless besides that. You can only do it during sleep because it takes so long 

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i do agree mostly but i also see the appeal for alot of people. you come home and you sit your phone down anyway let it be the couch, desk kitchen counter, whatever you dont wear it on you in your house so you might aswell just put it on the charging pad. new cars sometimes have a wireless charging tray now which again i think it very practical cause youre not on your phone anyway you might as well just put it in the try and have it charging. but again as it is right now i also prefer cables. 

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11 hours ago, Blademaster91 said:

1. That seems rather backwards, if i need to use the phone its much more convenient to just plug it in, but wireless charging is a feature I'd use on occasion to prevent the charge port from wearing out.  And everyone had the same excuse of "just don't use your phone while charging it" with manufacturers taking away the 3.5mm jack to save a few cents, seems a lot less convenient to me to not be able to use the device whenever I'd like.

2. Even mid range phones come with 10-15w fast chargers nowadays, wireless charging heats up the battery and is much less efficient. Extra heat on the battery is an issue especially since manufacturers insist on gluing phones shut for "water resistance" instead of replaceable batteries.

3. Wireless charging isn't anything new, and its still worse than plugging it into the wall.

 

1. It doesn't make sense to implement wireless chargers everywhere from a cost standpoint unless all phones have wireless charging.

2. I have no problem plugging my phone in if I need to in the car although I can usually get through a whole day without charging my phone.

3. It only takes a few seconds to unplug a phone and grab a cable, or just keep an extra one in the car.

4. Unless battery tech significantly improves, constantly setting down your phone to charge is terrible for battery health.

1. Again, charging overnight, or with the speeds wireless charging is getting to, not touching your phone for a bit shouldn't be an issue.

2. Yes, but phones are coming with 25w - 30w wireless charging, with 40w wireless charging in the works. Also the heating isn't as much of an issue anymore either, with something like 98% efficiency on the latest wireless charging spec.

3. Not really. Not if you have a decent phone and pad.

 

1. The cost isn't on you, why does it matter? It's not like a single company is shelling out the money for all the access points. That's a nonsensical argument.

3. It only takes seconds to throw it on a charging pad. What's your point? Again, moot.

4. It's not that bad, and there are advances. Did you know that it's full cycles that affect a lithium battery, and not how many times you plug in the charger?

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