New 200,000 core AMD EPYC Rome “Army” Supercomputer

[SuperCooling87]

In an article by Tom’s Hardware (link below), the Finnish IT Center for Science (CSC) announced a two phase plan to unveil a 200,000 core EPYC-based supercomputer. If successful, it would see up to 6.4 petaflops of peak performance and cost over $44 million USD. Assuming a conservative estimate of $4,000 USD per processor (AMD still hasn’t fully unveiled them), 12.5 million would be spent on CPU’s alone. What do you guys think? Will it run cinebench?

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-rome-supercomputer-200000-nvidia-cores,38259.html

[Firewrath9]

saw this like 5d ago lmao.

 

12.5m is actually not that much.

 

Windows Server 2016 charges per core. Datacenter is 770$ for 2 cores, so 77 million for windows alone. Thats why people use linux. XD

[Taf the Ghost]

5 minutes ago, SuperCooling87 said:

In an article by Tom’s Hardware (link below), the Finnish IT Center for Science (CSC) announced a two phase plan to unveil a 200,000 core EPYC-based supercomputer. If successful, it would see up to 6.4 petaflops of peak performance and cost over $44 million USD. Assuming a conservative estimate of $4,000 USD per processor (AMD still hasn’t fully unveiled them), 12.5 million would be spent on CPU’s alone. What do you guys think? Will it run cinebench?

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-rome-supercomputer-200000-nvidia-cores,38259.html

Yes, it probably would run Cinebench, but the issue would be finding a GUI to be over it to actually display video. It'd also be done before the requests were propagated to even half of the system.

[Mihle]

37 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Yes, it probably would run Cinebench, but the issue would be finding a GUI to be over it to actually display video. It'd also be done before the requests were propagated to even half of the system.

Also, in Cinebench there are other problems you get to if you run it on something too powerful too. If you for example get around 10k points, the score varries from one run to another up to 20%. Probably just get worse the higher you go.

[leadeater]

34 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

Windows Server 2016 charges per core. Datacenter is 770$ for 2 cores, so 77 million for windows alone. Thats why people use linux. XD

Education and researchers don't pay list price. We pay based on our Staff and Student FTE count then we can use an unlimited amount of any of Microsofts core products, so whether it's 2 cores or 200,000 cores the price doesn't change .

 

Not that you'd be using Windows Server for an HPC cluster though.

[S w a t s o n]

15 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Education and researchers don't pay list price. We pay based on our Staff and Student FTE count then we can use an unlimited amount of any of Microsofts core products, so whether it's 2 cores or 200,000 cores the price doesn't change .

 

Not that you'd be using Windows Server for an HPC cluster though.

Spoiler

 

[Terryv]

1 hour ago, Firewrath9 said:

Windows Server 2016 charges per core. Datacenter is 770$ for 2 cores, so 77 million for windows alone. Thats why people use linux. XD

Seriously, who in their right mind would use windows in that situation. Price based on core count sounds ridiculous to me regardless of how many cores you have.

[bcredeur97]

52 minutes ago, Mihle said:

Also, in Cinebench there are other problems you get to if you run it on something too powerful too. If you for example get around 10k points, the score varries from one run to another up to 20%. Probably just get worse the higher you go.

time for them to make a new Cinebench. 

 

also.. i doubt cinebench would run properly at all on it without significant modifications. It's a supercomputer. but everything is still seperated into nodes and you have to program stuff to use all the nodes. Doesn't just work like a normal pc once everything is plugged in and configured. 

Though I do wish it were that easy sometimes..

[Fnige]

BUT will it also run crysis?

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Yes, it probably would run Cinebench, but the issue would be finding a GUI to be over it to actually display video. It'd also be done before the requests were propagated to even half of the system.

50,000 gamers 1 CPU lol

[Taf the Ghost]

2 hours ago, RorzNZ said:

50,000 gamers 1 CPU lol

Linus: We powered an entire Dreamhack with 1 Computer!

[Granular]

8 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

Datacenter is 770$ for 2 cores, so 77 million for windows alone. Thats why people use linux. XD

Personally, I use Linux because I don't want my files to suddenly disappear or for every update to reset my user preferences and install annoying adware on my machines.

[mr moose]

9 hours ago, leadeater said:

Not that you'd be using Windows Server for an HPC cluster though.

Speak for yourself,  If I could afford a 200K core HPC I would put windows 10 home on it.   I think for the money and time it would take to customize an OS you you wouldn't gain much.... 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll see myself out

[RejZoR]

8 hours ago, Terryv said:

Seriously, who in their right mind would use windows in that situation. Price based on core count sounds ridiculous to me regardless of how many cores you have.

At that price, you can just hire someone to deploy you whole Linux ecosystem and it would still cost you less I think...

[leadeater]

4 hours ago, SlimyPython said:

BUT will it also run crysis?

No because AMD CPUs are bad at gaming.

[mr moose]

2 minutes ago, leadeater said:

No because AMD CPUs are bad at gaming.

but it might freesync better.

[cj09beira]

12 minutes ago, leadeater said:

No because AMD CPUs are bad at gaming.

we still dont know how the latency on those cpus will be, and does the io die have an l4 cache?, either way 64 cores vs 28, amd can even go head to head against 4 socket systems, at probably close to half the power

[Ashleyyyy]

if LTT looks at it: GAMING ON A 200000 CORE SYSTEM!!!1!1

[Guest]

12 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Yes, it probably would run Cinebench, but the issue would be finding a GUI to be over it to actually display video. It'd also be done before the requests were propagated to even half of the system.

Clusterized machines don't require a classic GUI output as you could imagine, cinebench is just designed to run on a single system, but there are distributed benchmark tools as well 

 

[AlTech]

1 hour ago, leadeater said:

No because AMD CPUs are bad at gaming.

Ooof. TRIGGERED.

 

But seriously, my 1700X would disagree with you.

[GoldenLag]

1 hour ago, AluminiumTech said:

But seriously, my 1700X would disagree with you.

Especially in Civ 5 and 6 and probably hoi4

 

because everyone plays those games......

[TacoSenpai]

But the real question is how many legiones can it generate for Roma in Rome Total War II?

[Firewrath9]

6 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

Ooof. TRIGGERED.

 

But seriously, my 1700X would disagree with you.

Intel CPU's are bad at gaming as well.

Try gaming on just a CPU no GPU. technically the intel one with its terrible igpu will still win

 

[Grimlakin]

20 hours ago, Terryv said:

Seriously, who in their right mind would use windows in that situation. Price based on core count sounds ridiculous to me regardless of how many cores you have.

LOL never ever look at the SQL licensing then.  That makes the OS licensing look positively miniscule.  We're talking 14k+ per 4 cores.  Have a nice day.