Asus Z170 dedicated pump header

[NumLock21]

 

Not much info on this, but according to Asus, this special header lets you control the water pump from the bios or within the OS. Don't know how it works or how they're different from standard 4 pin fan headers, but it does sound like a cool feature.

https://www.facebook.com/ASUSROG/photos/a.425394407387.214760.405774002387/10154027430877388/?type=1

 

 

 

[Lays]

It's literally a PWM header renamed to "water pump header"

 

You could already control pumps via PWM fan headers previously, anything that had PWM control AFAIK, my Z97 Mpower could control my H220's pump in BIOS/software in windows.

[Razarza]

It's literally a PWM header renamed to "water pump header"

No that is where you are wrong, it will tell you the Pump Speed in the BIOS, not fan speed.

Revolutionary.

/s

[trag1c]

They're going to charge extra for nothing but marketing.

[Lays]

No that is where you are wrong, it will tell you the Pump Speed in the BIOS, not fan speed.

Revolutionary.

 

It already told you the pump speed if you had a PWM pump.

 

It did for me on my M power with my h220, part of 1 of the wires in PWM reads RPM last I checked

[MegaDave91]

Sounds gimmicky.

[W-L]

Most if not all the Asus boards now are capable of PWM on all headers and were always capable on that the CPU header, unless they giving it the ability to have more current flow through it  to power smaller pumps directly off it without a separate 12V line I don't really see the point.

[Swndlr]

No that is where you are wrong, it will tell you the Pump Speed in the BIOS, not fan speed.

Revolutionary.

/s

Kappa 11/10 - IGN

[Guest]

No that is where you are wrong, it will tell you the Pump Speed in the BIOS, not fan speed.

Revolutionary.

/s

Not sure if you're trolling or not. I'm not really bright btw

EDIT: nvm, just noticed the /s

[MEC-777]

Or how about this: Plug your pump into a 12v molex adapter so it's always running at 100% like it should be, leaving all the fan headers free to run fans. 

 

[RexinOridle]

For people that saying this is a rip off:

 

1. Pumps actually suck up a lot more watts than fans. Normally normal fan headers aren't suitable for that kind of constant amp draw.

2. They spin slower than fans. A lot slower. So when you plug a pump into fan header, it tries to run it at full speed all the time (or at least on PWM Asus boards).

 

There is a reason why most pumps come with a Molex connector (or atleast on the side). So can you run your pump off a fan header? Yes. Should you do it? I don't think so.

[PerfectTemplar]

Or how about this: Plug your pump into a 12v molex adapter so it's always running at 100% like it should be, leaving all the fan headers free to run fans. 

 

 

I could be wrong, I don't have much knowledge of water cooling. But wouldn't it reduce the life of the pump to run at 100% all the time?

[W-L]

I could be wrong, I don't have much knowledge of water cooling. But wouldn't it reduce the life of the pump to run at 100% all the time?

 

It should still meet the MTBF even if you run it at 100% but theoretically it would degrade it a bit faster.

[zacRupnow]

They're going to charge extra for nothing but marketing.

R.O.G.

[Lays]

For people that saying this is a rip off:

1. Pumps actually suck up a lot more watts than fans. Normally normal fan headers aren't suitable for that kind of constant amp draw.

2. They spin slower than fans. A lot slower. So when you plug a pump into fan header, it tries to run it at full speed all the time (or at least on PWM Asus boards).

There is a reason why most pumps come with a Molex connector (or atleast on the side). So can you run your pump off a fan header? Yes. Should you do it? I don't think so.

I dont believe you can run one off a header alone if it comes with the molex/sata power, because the circuit is designed so that the molex/sata is the primary power source. If it doesnt have those of course you can simply run it off pwm.

Also im not sure where you saw that pumps spin slower than fans, your average Aio pump spins at ~1800 minimum and ~3000 maximum most of the time.

[CommandMan7]

For goodness sakes my HP stock Z75 motherboard has a pump header.

[Biased Opinion]

They're going to charge extra for nothing but marketing.

I doubt this will add to the cost of the boards in any way for the end user. A given tier of board will still fall in its same price bracket, this is purely a marketing push. Althought if they dont lose any fan headers to this then that will actually be a plus

[Trik'Stari]

For people that saying this is a rip off:

 

1. Pumps actually suck up a lot more watts than fans. Normally normal fan headers aren't suitable for that kind of constant amp draw.

2. They spin slower than fans. A lot slower. So when you plug a pump into fan header, it tries to run it at full speed all the time (or at least on PWM Asus boards).

 

There is a reason why most pumps come with a Molex connector (or atleast on the side). So can you run your pump off a fan header? Yes. Should you do it? I don't think so.

......this sounds like a good idea for a video, or maybe a Tek Quickie.

 

@LinusTech, @Slick, @nicklmg, thoughts?

[NumLock21]

Looking at the position of that pump header. It does not look like that board is part of the maximus viii rog line up and not it's not the z170 pro. It might be the deluxe, but those angular traces on the board, near the CPU mounting holes, might be the pro gamer?

[Peopie]

Maybe it will include voltage control and PWM, so even pumps without PWM could have their speed controlled?

[MEC-777]

I could be wrong, I don't have much knowledge of water cooling. But wouldn't it reduce the life of the pump to run at 100% all the time?

 

They are supposed to run at full speed. The quicker the water moves through the block, the more heat it can pull away. The instructions for my H60 said to make sure the pump is running off a constant 12v source. It's designed to run that way. If you slow the pump down, you're not getting the optimal cooling from your AIO.

 

For people that saying this is a rip off:

 

1. Pumps actually suck up a lot more watts than fans. Normally normal fan headers aren't suitable for that kind of constant amp draw.

2. They spin slower than fans. A lot slower. So when you plug a pump into fan header, it tries to run it at full speed all the time (or at least on PWM Asus boards).

 

There is a reason why most pumps come with a Molex connector (or atleast on the side). So can you run your pump off a fan header? Yes. Should you do it? I don't think so.

 

1. No they don't. The headers can handle up to the max amperage they were designed for. Pumps don't draw more than the max amperage of the header, so they are fine to run that constantly.

2. No, they don't. My H60 pump with a PWM connector, runs between 4000-4500rpm at 12v. Most AIO pumps run at 2800rpm or higher. Again, they were designed for this and they will not wear out or degrade faster.

 

My H60 and H55 did not come with any molex adapters. Can you run them off a fan header? Yes. Should you do it? If you want to and if you don't need all fan headers on your board, yes. It won't harm anything.  

[patrickjp93]

Or how about this: Plug your pump into a 12v molex adapter so it's always running at 100% like it should be, leaving all the fan headers free to run fans. 

 

 

Great way to kill a pump early in its life cycle.

[MEC-777]

Great way to kill a pump early in its life cycle.

 

What's the different between 12v through a board header and 12v through molex? 

[Aniallation]

Chances are it supports higher amperage then a regular port, since pumps use more power then fans.

 

 

Maybe it will include voltage control and PWM, so even pumps without PWM could have their speed controlled?

4-pin fan headers already support voltage control if the fan connected is not PWM.

[patrickjp93]

What's the different between 12v through a board header and 12v through molex? 

I said kill the motor, not the board.