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[NetoriusNick]

its because of the mix of 6800 6800xt and 6900xt are all under the one headding 

no?

[RollinLower]

1 hour ago, Starman57 said:

WTH.  I don't fold with my 6900xt for the summer (makes it TOO hot in the upstairs Covid cave) and come back in preparation for folding month, to this?  What are ppl doing with their RX6000s to cause such a crappy average???  Gaming at the same time as folding??

 

my watercooled 6900xt does about 4.5 to 5M. so i guess this checks out. it really depends on the WU you run though.

[Starman57]

1 hour ago, RollinLower said:

my watercooled 6900xt does about 4.5 to 5M. so i guess this checks out. it really depends on the WU you run though.

No, the average reported is for that SPECIFIC WU.  It's the average of those results that have been returned back to LAR systems.

 

Unfortunately, the display doesn't include the spread of results (lowest to highest), so my returned results will get watered down into the average.

 

Still, no explanation as to why that average is so bloody low.  Sheesh.

 

I've attached another example (the next WU after the one I first posted).

[RollinLower]

8 minutes ago, Starman57 said:

No, the average reported is for that SPECIFIC WU.  It's the average of those results that have been returned back to LAR systems.

i know, but next WU you might be scoring below average, it's a small database with just a few cards. so if 2 people are running it while gaming on the side the results get screwed over big time

[Starman57]

1 minute ago, RollinLower said:

i know, but next WU you might be scoring below average, it's a small database with just a few cards. so if 2 people are running it while gaming on the side the results get screwed over big time

Yes, quite possible.  But that last WU has 277 reported results.  The chances that only 2 or so ppl doing it seems pretty remote.

 

The other possibility is that this "bucket" of RX6000s is heavily weighted in RX6800s.  But still, those cards aren't that much slower than a 6900xt.

 

This average still doesn't make sense.

[Kilrah]

Just now, Starman57 said:

But still, those cards aren't that much slower than a 6900xt.

For folding it seems they are, there have been several people reporting that about what the average is is all they could get

[Starman57]

1 minute ago, Kilrah said:

For folding it seems they are, there have been several people reporting that about what the average is is all they could get

What version of the AMD driver are they using?  The current one?

[Kilrah]

The current one at that time, I think it was in the folding sprint thread a few weeks ago

[Starman57]

2 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

The current one at that time, I think it was in the folding sprint thread a few weeks ago

OMG.  NO, NO, NO.

 

ANY AMD driver after 21.3.1 (or 21.3.2) is a performance regression nightmare for folding at home.

 

I've reported this to AMD using the bug reporting tool way back in April when the 21.4 series driver came out.  The performance regressions have been getting worse since then as the 21.10.3 driver lopped off a further 15%-20% folding performance from the 21.8.2 driver (yes, I reported this too).

 

Of course, for those that HAVE to have the latest driver to support their gaming will have to live with crappy performance.  For those that fold, there is a choice!

 

Try it.  Download 21.3.1 WHQL (or 21.3.2 non WHQL) driver from the previous drivers section (it's all the way down at the bottom of the list).  Pause your folding midstream.  Download DDU.   Note:  You cannot just install the 21.3 driver on top of the old ones.  It doesn't work.

 

Reboot your Windows into safe mode.  Run DDU and yank out the present driver.  Restart windows and install the 21.3 driver you previously downloaded.  Reboot (mandatory), and then restart your folding when windows comes back.  Watch your PPD (preferably with LAR Systems "Folding in the dark extension" to Chrome and turn on the charts and performance info).  Every time I've done this with the drivers since 21.3.1, performance goes up, many times quite noticeably.  PPD profit. 

 

[Starman57]

Further, here's a status of my fall '21 performance tuning for folding@home.  Coming along nicely.

 

[Starman57]

Annnnddddd......  Thermals under control now.

[Mxyzptlk]

On 10/20/2021 at 12:26 PM, RollinLower said:

well hi. how've you been?

Good.  Just keeping my head above water and letting my machines fold away. 

[dogwitch]

double checking all box right now that had driver updates... not happy 1 already corrupted due to driver update.

also retracting 3060 card atm.

oddly no one interested in card atm(still in box) so i might return to not loss money on it. also this will be last folding for 3 amd gpus to.  market still up and can earn a profit to sell some low end cards 2gb/4 gb

[Pezui]

Anyone have luck with f@h on win 11? I submitted my small box to it and it's downloading the package now. I hope it doesn't biff folding month for me. 

[Pezui]

On 11/1/2021 at 1:51 PM, Pezui said:

Anyone have luck with f@h on win 11? I submitted my small box to it and it's downloading the package now. I hope it doesn't biff folding month for me. 

For the record, it feels very stable after 24 hours and is functionally the same as being on windows 10.

[Starman57]

Woah.  Some serious points with this WU.

 

[LazyDev]

I feel like next years folding event, my PPD is going to explode. 

[Oathkeeperspath]

Winter is coming, looks like I can get back to folding. 

Still trying decide if it's worth adding my old optiplex mechines to the pile or just run my gaming and editing rigs... 

[justpoet]

3 hours ago, Oathkeeperspath said:

Winter is coming, looks like I can get back to folding. 

Still trying decide if it's worth adding my old optiplex mechines to the pile or just run my gaming and editing rigs... 

As long as you're not turning on the AC, all it does is make your heating system use less energy, so it is a win for science almost for free.

[Oathkeeperspath]

5 minutes ago, justpoet said:

As long as you're not turning on the AC, all it does is make your heating system use less energy, so it is a win for science almost for free.

More wondering if a sandy bridge chip would be able to fix a WU before it expires, lol

[Kazi]

16 minutes ago, Oathkeeperspath said:

More wondering if a sandy bridge chip would be able to fix a WU before it expires, lol

Probably depends on which Sandy bridge chip do you have. But 2600K is able to do it without problems.

[justpoet]

2 hours ago, Oathkeeperspath said:

More wondering if a sandy bridge chip would be able to fix a WU before it expires, lol

Most of my CPU power is 10+ year old server xeons.  They're not super speedy, but they work just fine.

[Pezui]

I think the GPU market is starting to calm. I ended up snagging a 3080ti and a 3060 both this week. The 3060 is going to a coworker who was rocking a GTX 660, and the 3080TI I might just make a folding slave for a month while my local friends see if they can come up with the MSRP and get it from me. Now MSRP is still real bad on these cards I feel, $1799 for the MSI Ventus is a thick pill to swallow. But how ever this shakes out I hope people can get the cards they want soon, and hopefully MSRP drops to reasonable. 

[rkv_2401]

Hey @LAR_Systems, I was going through the passkey FAQ to help someone out and I noticed that they had a line that reads : "We are working to use the passkey to allow donors to get more information about their Folding@home client machines." that I don't recall seeing previously. (Link - https://foldingathome.org/support/faq/points/passkey/?lng=en )

 

Have you posted on the main foldingforum and told them about your extension? Yours is the first FaH tool I know of that automatically collects hardware information and points data - the developers working on the main client might be interested in your solution!

[Gorgon]

Asked @jakkuh_t to test this on F@H