$2,500 Ethernet Switch Effectively Isolates Audiophiles From Cash

[Kilrah]

10 minutes ago, Salv8 (sam) said:

audiophiles usually buy their music outright and use devices that don't stream the audio data over a network connection?

There are streaming services specifically tailored for "audiophiles", that some buy into just fine based on advertised "superior, more than lossless proprietary codecs" that have been scientifically demonstrated to actually be terrible but nevermind. That's the kind of people this will be targeted at...

[NumLock21]

So they ran out of ideas to target gamers and now they're targeting audiophiles?

[Heliian]

3 hours ago, Salv8 (sam) said:

, it'd would be useful in a professional recording studio

I question that even.   The recordings aren't going through a switch and you'd need a million dollars worth of super cables to see a benefit.

 

Don't underestimate the audiophile community, it gets pretty ridiculous at the personal home system level. 

 

 

 

 

[Arika]

I'm getting MQA vibes from this.

[Biohazard777]

Had to share this here:
https://positive-feedback.com/reviews/hardware-reviews/synergistic-research-ethernet-switch-uef/

https://aurender.com/n10/

Wow, what a load of BS...
So when can I expect to see Linus crying while listing to music using a 2.5K USD switch and an 8K USD media server with SPDIF output? 

[CTR640]

How to get IP-banned permanently from audiophile forum: tell them it's snake oil.

 

Seriously, what is wrong with that kind of "audiophiles" Have they really lost their mind? I mean, they already lost their mind lol

Each time I see shit like that, I keep getting the impression that kind of audiophiles are really dead inside and only qualify themself as audiophiles:

1. you're audiophile if you can spend 100K+ and millions on audio equipments

2. you're audiophile if you only buy headphones and audio gear measured scientifically in 0dB noise room

 

Screw that 'eardead' bullshit. Good headphones are meant to enjoy, not to trash and crap on it just because of some FR measurements.

 

[dilpickle]

If you want a good laugh check this site out:

 

https://audiobacon.net/

 

This guy claims he can hear the difference between 27 power cables and 10 ethernet cables.

 

He also says that streaming over Cable modem sounds different than a DSL line.

 

Then watch videos like this with a Million Dollar system on "diamond radiators" with cables raised off the ground that was tuned by a buddhist monk with special wooden poles that create a "sonic boundary". Oh and the best part is you can listen to this awesome system in the Youtube video and experience its amazing quality yourself!

[leadeater]

13 hours ago, Dreckssackblase said:

That's just straight up lying about what your product can do, but I guess they think the Audiophile community seems gullible enough.

They are

 

13 hours ago, StDragon said:

The audiophile community has always been full of the pretentious type. I really hope that level of brain rot isn't infecting gamers too.

Gamerz are the current day audiophile

[WolframaticAlpha]

[leadeater]

49 minutes ago, dilpickle said:

This guy claims he can hear the difference between 27 power cables

Well to be honest for a power cable going to a pre-amp you can, but the only way to make it better is to plat it like an ethernet cable. This will actually clean up electrical noise. Made zero difference on a straight power amp.

 

Also confident this would mostly only apply to analogue source inputs btw,

 

I have sampled audiophile power cables and power conditioners and can confirm they don't do a damn thing and I couldn't pick out differences between cables, only the platted one made by myself. And no I never considered buying them I was just allowed to borrow them from the audio store to try and and give feedback on them.

 

49 minutes ago, dilpickle said:

Then watch videos like this with a Million Dollar system on "diamond radiators" with cables raised off the ground that was tuned by a buddhist monk with special wooden poles that create a "sonic boundary". Oh and the best part is you can listen to this awesome system in the Youtube video and experience its amazing quality yourself!

Yuck not to criticize people's music tasks but that's awful and utterly pointless to spend any money on to make it sound "better".

[Arika]

1 hour ago, leadeater said:

Yuck not to criticize people's music tasks but that's awful and utterly pointless to spend any money on to make it sound "better".

I thought listening to music was a thing you do for fun, not a job to analyse every single note by every single instrument.

[Dedayog]

16 hours ago, Dreckssackblase said:

That's just straight up lying about what your product can do, but I guess they think the Audiophile community seems gullible enough.

No.  They KNOW the Audiophile community IS gullible.

 

I'm just upset I didn't think of it myself

 

[Avocado Diaboli]

11 hours ago, Salv8 (sam) said:

but a lot of audiophiles don't work in professional recording studio and mainly just want to listen to their music.

A lot of audiophiles generally know dick about music at all. I've been a musician for over 20 years now, played in a couple of bands on a variety of instruments and styles. Never have I met a fellow musician who claims to be an audiophile or shells out hundreds or thousands of dollars for cables and gear to listen to music (they do spend it to make music though). I think the fact that most audiophiles aren't musicians and vice-versa should tell anyone how nonsensical any product for them is. At the end of the day, audiophiles don't listen to music. They listen to gear. 

[leadeater]

8 hours ago, Arika S said:

I thought listening to music was a thing you do for fun, not a job to analyse every single note by every single instrument.

That is 100% not the mindset of an audiophile 

[TheEggComputer]

On 12/16/2021 at 7:56 AM, Cyber said:

Summary

 Synergistic Research developed a wild ethernet switch that is designed to smooth out electric signals inside the switch in order to gain higher audio quality from audio streaming services.

 

Quotes

 

My thoughts

I can just see this switch in a few weeks in a new LTT Video $h!t Manufacturers Say

 

Sources

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ethernet-switch-for-audiophiles

*insert futurama shut up and take my money meme here*

[da na]

Almost as stupid as that audiophile NVME I found a while back that had a filtering cap and an external power supply

There's a point at which that's just too far

[Forbidden Wafer]

On 12/16/2021 at 12:25 PM, PeachGr said:

Gaming WiFi!

Well, there can be better QoS for games, and keeping tracking of all games and their needs isn't exactly that easy.

[PeachGr]

11 minutes ago, Forbidden Wafer said:

Well, there can be better QoS for games, and keeping tracking of all games and their needs isn't exactly that easy.

You just need RGB

[Forbidden Wafer]

1 hour ago, PeachGr said:

You just need RGB

 

[MageTank]

I am stealing this joke from a guy I used to work with ( I miss you, Chip):

 

"Audiophiles are the wine snobs of the tech industry. They even use words to describe their hobby that have nothing to do with it, much like wine snobs. "Oh, these mids are so photosynthesizing". If you blindly put the same headset on them twice from the same source media, they'll still insist they sound different".

[StDragon]

1 hour ago, MageTank said:

I am stealing this joke from a guy I used to work with ( I miss you, Chip):

 

"Audiophiles are the wine snobs of the tech industry. They even use words to describe their hobby that have nothing to do with it, much like wine snobs. "Oh, these mids are so photosynthesizing". If you blindly put the same headset on them twice from the same source media, they'll still insist they sound different".

You know, there's a market for audiophile Q-tips. Because if you want the best listening experience...

[Jito463]

Just now, StDragon said:

You know, there's a market for audiophile Q-tips. Because if you want the best listening experience...

Hey, are you reading my notes?!  Stop stealing my ideas!

[Taf the Ghost]

21 hours ago, Avocado Diaboli said:

A lot of audiophiles generally know dick about music at all. I've been a musician for over 20 years now, played in a couple of bands on a variety of instruments and styles. Never have I met a fellow musician who claims to be an audiophile or shells out hundreds or thousands of dollars for cables and gear to listen to music (they do spend it to make music though). I think the fact that most audiophiles aren't musicians and vice-versa should tell anyone how nonsensical any product for them is. At the end of the day, audiophiles don't listen to music. They listen to gear. 

Most of the Audiophile gear is a flex. It's also a way to justify spending too much on a products. You see it in a lot of things. The example I normally use of this effect is the "whole food" craze. Almost the entirety of it is about justifying buying better quality food. Yes, it costs more. But there's an entire vanity play built around it so it doesn't "seem" like it's really just about paying more money for food you perceive as being better. 

I haven't noticed that there isn't any overlap between "audiophiles" and instrument collectors. Maybe there is, somewhere, but one is about getting "gear" and the other is about musicality and quirky effects.

On 12/16/2021 at 6:48 PM, leadeater said:

Well to be honest for a power cable going to a pre-amp you can, but the only way to make it better is to plat it like an ethernet cable. This will actually clean up electrical noise. Made zero difference on a straight power amp.

 

Also confident this would mostly only apply to analogue source inputs btw,

 

I have sampled audiophile power cables and power conditioners and can confirm they don't do a damn thing and I couldn't pick out differences between cables, only the platted one made by myself. And no I never considered buying them I was just allowed to borrow them from the audio store to try and and give feedback on them.

 

Yuck not to criticize people's music tasks but that's awful and utterly pointless to spend any money on to make it sound "better".

It is kinda funny how much money has been made on what boils down to just solving power isolation issues. For sensitive audio equipment, it does matter, but it's not the most striking of problems to solve.

[williamcll]

On 12/16/2021 at 9:07 PM, Oshino Shinobu said:

Nah, there's already "gaming" switches that just offer a couple of 10G uplinks that really do nothing for gaming. Asus have one I think. 

 

On 12/16/2021 at 9:20 PM, whispous said:

Yea, your 500Kbps of DoTA traffic sure can have room to breathe in that 10G connection... to the router only, and not onward to the internet lol. I love it.

Well, steam can go beyond a gigabit of download soooo.....

 

 

Just get a regular router with 2.5Gbps and 4 antenna because your phone nor your laptop supports 3x mimo anyway.

[whispous]

22 minutes ago, williamcll said:

 

Well, steam can go beyond a gigabit of download soooo.....

 

 

Just get a regular router with 2.5Gbps and 4 antenna because your phone nor your laptop supports 3x mimo anyway.

Yes. But downloading isn't gaming.