3900X/X570 still good in 2024 (for gaming)

[frozensun]

Hi friends.

Yeah I was diagnosed with hoarding which is nothing unusal since I have personality disorder.

Each year I pay tons of euros for IT equipment (laptops, tablets, cables, phones, etc etc...).

Last 3 days I saw good offer for 13700K and z690 board and I almost fell to buy it.

But the think is that it makes me happy until the moment I build the PC, and them all happiness just dissapears.

No wonder I keep these components on the shelf with their boxes.

Back in july 2020, I paid like 2500 euros for 3900X, 32GB of RAM and Crosshair Hero VIII board which costed me 500 euros.Then X570 wasa good choice.

I have not used that PC much, I am sure I have not turned it on more then 100x for 4 years.And now I want another new PC, same sickness each 3-4 years.

So what do I want now?

Probably from you confirmation that X570 and 3900X is still going strong in 2024.I played games on my 2nd rig with good old 6700K and 2080 Super.

Now 3900X in my opinion is a joke CPU (saw an offer for used one for 130 euros).

Seems I am a victim of Intel/AMD whenever they release new platform each 3-4 years I pay 3-4 of my monthly income to get it.

And to make things worse, I barely use that PC.

Sorry mods if I am on wrong forum but if someone feels the same please share and how can I help myself?

[WereCat]

"still good" depends on your performance expectations. Does it perform good enough in the games you play? Yes? Then it's good enough. No? Then it's not good enough.

 

If it's "No" for you then an easy swap to 5800X3D can give you around 50% performance uplift on the same socket in a CPU demanding games.

[Levent]

5 hours ago, frozensun said:

Seems I am a victim of Intel/AMD whenever they release new platform each 3-4 years I pay 3-4 of my monthly income to get it.

You arent. You dont have to.

 

 

Answer to your title, yes. Sensible upgrade path would be 5700X3D/5800X3D.

[Needfuldoer]

Your computer's still perfectly fine, and you have an inexpensive upgrade path since you're on a high end AM4 chipset.

 

Honestly, what you really need is professional help for your shopping addiction and fear of missing out. Retail therapy only perpetuates the problem, and it's insidious the way it digs its claws into your mind despite regretting your purchases soon after they reach your hands. That's how those hoarder houses on TV happen, where the house is nothing but goat trails through mountains of shopping bags and unopened QVC and Amazon deliveries.

[frozensun]

Yeah but back then I payed 500 euros for 3900X and now 350 euros for CPU which would give me +50 fps.

Besides I would need probably to flash MoBo which I never did.

Last time I flashed something it was my good old Zenbook, and I bricked the laptop.

 

[frozensun]

6 minutes ago, Needfuldoer said:

Your computer's still perfectly fine, and you have an inexpensive upgrade path since you're on a high end AM4 chipset.

 

Honestly, what you really need is professional help for your shopping addiction and fear of missing out. Retail therapy only perpetuates the problem, and it's insidious the way it digs its claws into your mind despite regretting your purchases soon after they reach your hands. That's how those hoarder houses on TV happen, where the house is nothing but goat trails through mountains of shopping bags and unopened QVC and Amazon deliveries.

I think you are perfectly right and understand me.

Do I need wi-fi 6/7, no I don't, do I need PCI-E 5.0 nvme devices, no I don't (I even don't know to take advantage of PCI-E 4.0 nvme devices) ,do I need thunderbolt port, no I dont, etc etc....

I mainly use PC for 1440p gaming, internet browsing and listening to music.

I don't need more then 60 fps for gaming and my rtx 2080 super with old 6700K still does the job fine except well Cyberpunk.

The problem is that boost of serotonin of having +5.5 GHz CPU (but feeling empty inside).It is just a feeling that I must have it, some sort of energy boost which is stronger then me, and it tricks me to buy it.

[frozensun]

25 minutes ago, WereCat said:

"still good" depends on your performance expectations. Does it perform good enough in the games you play? Yes? Then it's good enough. No? Then it's not good enough.

 

If it's "No" for you then an easy swap to 5800X3D can give you around 50% performance uplift on the same socket in a CPU demanding games.

Depends on game, but in synthetics 3900x outperforms it.

I don't need 180 fps in games, I am happy with 60.

 

Depe

[WereCat]

8 minutes ago, frozensun said:

Depends on game, but in synthetics 3900x outperforms it.

I don't need 180 fps in games, I am happy with 60.

 

Depe

you asked for gaming not synthetics... obviously in multi-core workloads the 3900X is better which is irrelevant for gaming. If you're happy with 60FPS then I don't see what reason you have to be obsessed about upgrades.

[Nena Trinity]

You should be able to play every game the Playstation 5 can, now if you expect 60 FPS in all games that may not be feasable. 144fps even less so but I guarantee that it should be able to PLAY EVERYTHING!

[PDifolco]

1 hour ago, frozensun said:

Hi friends.

Yeah I was diagnosed with hoarding which is nothing unusal since I have personality disorder.

Each year I pay tons of euros for IT equipment (laptops, tablets, cables, phones, etc etc...).

Last 3 days I saw good offer for 13700K and z690 board and I almost fell to buy it.

But the think is that it makes me happy until the moment I build the PC, and them all happiness just dissapears.

No wonder I keep these components on the shelf with their boxes.

Back in july 2020, I paid like 2500 euros for 3900X, 32GB of RAM and Crosshair Hero VIII board which costed me 500 euros.Then X570 wasa good choice.

I have not used that PC much, I am sure I have not turned it on more then 100x for 4 years.And now I want another new PC, same sickness each 3-4 years.

So what do I want now?

Probably from you confirmation that X570 and 3900X is still going strong in 2024.I played games on my 2nd rig with good old 6700K and 2080 Super.

Now 3900X in my opinion is a joke CPU (saw an offer for used one for 130 euros).

Seems I am a victim of Intel/AMD whenever they release new platform each 3-4 years I pay 3-4 of my monthly income to get it.

And to make things worse, I barely use that PC.

Sorry mods if I am on wrong forum but if someone feels the same please share and how can I help myself?

3900X is not a very good gaming chip anymore, but if you only target 60FPS @1440p it will do the work

Seems your issue is more of a personal buying craze than a real need of upgrading, I don't judge and we cannot help much here

[Fasauceome]

45 minutes ago, frozensun said:

The problem is that boost of serotonin of having +5.5 GHz CPU (but feeling empty inside).It is just a feeling that I must have it, some sort of energy boost which is stronger then me, and it tricks me to buy it.

Unfortunately on the forum, we can't really advise on a dopamine hit. As mentioned before, I think your question has very little to do with actual technology and a lot to do with your relationship with it, maybe needing a mental health professional and possibly medication.

[podkall]

You could bite the bullet and wait for the next gen by the very least

[freeagent]

A 5600X would mop the floor in game compared to a 3900X.

[frozensun]

So I should order 5800x3d?

 

[freeagent]

I would. Its a good CPU.

[Needfuldoer]

47 minutes ago, frozensun said:

So I should order 5800x3d?

 

Forget what you hear about the 3900X being "no good anymore" just because it's not the latest and greatest.

 

Are you satisfied with the performance it gives you?

 

You can always upgrade later, you don't have to right now.

[freeagent]

It's "OK" at best. If he is not using those extra cores for anything meaningful, a 5600X will give him a better windows experience, as well as gaming. For instance, my 5600X was something like 6 minutes faster in SuperPi 32M vs my 3600XT.. could be my 5900X I am thinking of though.. probably.  Zen 3 in general is just a better arch. My 5800X3D is very easy to run. But I mean 3900X has some muscle behind it, power in numbers and all. Lots of power, low numbers.. see what I did there

[frozensun]

1 hour ago, Needfuldoer said:

Forget what you hear about the 3900X being "no good anymore" just because it's not the latest and greatest.

 

Are you satisfied with the performance it gives you?

 

You can always upgrade later, you don't have to right now.

Ofc I am for what I do...but I have not spent much time with that PC, since I am still using 6700K for gaming.

 

37 minutes ago, freeagent said:

It's "OK" at best. If he is not using those extra cores for anything meaningful, a 5600X will give him a better windows experience, as well as gaming. For instance, my 5600X was something like 6 minutes faster in SuperPi 32M vs my 3600XT.. could be my 5900X I am thinking of though.. probably.  Zen 3 in general is just a better arch. My 5800X3D is very easy to run. But I mean 3900X has some muscle behind it, power in numbers and all. Lots of power, low numbers.. see what I did there

I am still using 6700K for 1440p gaming (on ultra settings) and get decent number of FPS except only one game Cyberbunk but game sucks anyway. So tell me good reason to buy 5800X3D?To get >100 fps?

Why do I need >100 fps?

[freeagent]

15 minutes ago, frozensun said:

Why do I need >100 fps?

That is a question only you can answer

 

I play at 4K/60 on a 50 inch screen that I sit 8 feet away from 

 

My tower is just a little further

[frozensun]

I remember back in 2020 I paid around 2300 euros for X570 platform with 3900X.

I paid for the fastest CPU which was back then except 3950X and the best MoBo which alone costed me 500 euros.

And after 4 years I need to be a victim of IT hoarding and pay again lots of money for newer components just because my PC is 4 years old and a joke compared to 13700K.

Each 3-4 years I get myself a brand new components and build PC.

I wish I could stop this agony, and I feel a victim of AMD/INTEL etc...

If that PC would bring me money, hell why not but PC in my room is just wasting space (actually 3 of them).

[MadAnt250]

16 minutes ago, frozensun said:

Each 3-4 years I get myself a brand new components and build PC.

There is nothing wrong with upgrading something every 4 years as long there is a good justification for it. 

I've upgraded my system overtime little by little, but I had good reasons for each upgrade and was never meant to keep up with the latest and greatest. Don't pay attention to others or the techtubers that say this, that and the other thing will beat yours by whatever amount. If it is still more than satisfying you without thinking about the extra performance you could have with the flashy new one, then there is no need to upgrade.

 

The 3900X is still pretty darn good in 2024, I'm sure some members here would love to have a CPU like that. Now if upgrading everything every 4 years is your is a thing and you just love doing, that's mostly fine, but if it is a financial burden on you, then it's a poor decision.

[frozensun]

58 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

There is nothing wrong with upgrading something every 4 years as long there is a good justification for it. 

I've upgraded my system overtime little by little, but I had good reasons for each upgrade and was never meant to keep up with the latest and greatest. Don't pay attention to others or the techtubers that say this, that and the other thing will beat yours by whatever amount. If it is still more than satisfying you without thinking about the extra performance you could have with the flashy new one, then there is no need to upgrade.

 

The 3900X is still pretty darn good in 2024, I'm sure some members here would love to have a CPU like that. Now if upgrading everything every 4 years is your is a thing and you just love doing, that's mostly fine, but if it is a financial burden on you, then it's a poor decision.

Actually there is wrong, my mate.

Believe it it a not as a industrial engineer I'd need to work whole month just to get myself CPU+MoBo+RAM.

[Needfuldoer]

1 hour ago, frozensun said:

Believe it it a not as a industrial engineer I'd need to work whole month just to get myself CPU+MoBo+RAM.

Theoretical performance gains in limited scenarios aren't worth a month's labor.

 

Just run what you've got. It's fine.

[MadAnt250]

30 minutes ago, frozensun said:

Actually there is wrong, my mate.

Believe it it a not as a industrial engineer I'd need to work whole month just to get myself CPU+MoBo+RAM.

Ask yourself what it's worth to you. Forget about the shit the tech reviews and techtubers shove in your face. It does not matter if this new thing beats that old thing. What matters is the logical justification. 

[Agall]

On 5/12/2024 at 6:19 AM, frozensun said:

Depends on game, but in synthetics 3900x outperforms it.

I don't need 180 fps in games, I am happy with 60.

 

Depe

Its more than just maximum framerate but framerate stability. Its also variable between different games. No matter what for gaming, a 5800x3D is dramatically better than a 3900x for gaming at any resolution/settings for that reason and worth a drop in upgrade.

 

Unless you're willing to jump to AM5, a drop in 5000x3D upgrade is worth it.