Posted September 20, 2019 Source: The Verge (obviously) Huawei has announced that its latest Mate 30 Pro will not have access to the Google Mobile Services core, meaning the Google Play Store and the connecting Android apps, will not be available on the phone. Quote The Chinese phone maker was placed on the US entity list earlier this year, preventing any US companies from doing business with Huawei. Google revealed last month that the entity list means the company can’t allow Huawei to ship the Mate 30 Pro with Google apps and services preinstalled, effectively banning new Huawei devices from key parts of Android like the Google Play Store. Now Huawei has confirmed that’s the case. Richard Yu, the CEO of Huawei’s consumer products division, revealed onstage at a press event in Germany this morning that the company has been forced to drop Google’s Mobile Services (GMS) license on the Mate 30 series of devices. “We cannot use the Google Mobile Services core, we can use the Huawei Mobile Services (HMS) core,” explained Yu very briefly. “Today that’s because of a US ban that these phones cannot preinstall the GMS core, it has forced us to use the HMS Core running the Huawei app gallery on the Mate 30 series phones.” Because of this, Huawei has opted to build their own mobile services ecosystem, with already 45,000 apps inside the system, and more to come as development, growth, and marketing all play a part in its usability. Quote Huawei can’t really work around this very easily, so instead, it’s simply building its own alternative to Google’s Play Store and associated services. Huawei is using $1 billion to fund development, user growth, and marketing of its own Huawei Mobile Services. There are 45,000 apps already integrated with Huawei Mobile Services, but there will be many thousands more that will need to be tweaked and made available in Huawei’s App Gallery. It’s a big task to get developers to support its own app store, but the company has no other real alternative. Huawei are definitely in an impossible situation right now, but I think they'll manage. They had no choice but to launch their own Huawei Mobile Services ecosystem due to this new ban, but realisitcally as a consumer, I would just see this as an Android skin UI, as long as the apps that I use in the Google Play Store were available in it, just without the Google apps, obviously. As a heavy user of the Google Suite, for apps such as Sheets, Docs, Slides, and in rare instances Movies and Music, this would be a huge turnoff for any future Huawei phone. This new ban also makes me wonder how this would affect the price of the future phones as well now that they are missing such a core part of Android, surely Huawei would need to reduce prices a bit to compensate for their lack of the heart of Android? Either way, I'm personally very intrigued to see how Huawei does now that daddy Google have grounded them from the Google apps. mechanical keyboard switches aficionado & hi-fi audio enthusiast switch reviews • how i lube mx-style keyboard switches Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1105935-huawei-confirms-mate-30-pro-wont-come-with-google-apps/ Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2019 I wonder how well they'll sell their new phones without google apps 8086k aorus pro z390 noctua nh-d15s chromax w black cover evga 3070 ultra samsung 128gb, adata swordfish 1tb, wd blue 1tb seasonic 620w dogballs psu Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1105935-huawei-confirms-mate-30-pro-wont-come-with-google-apps/#findComment-12905012 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2019 I hope they sell it a little cheaper because of that. It only takes 2 minutes to sideload google apps anyways. mY sYsTeM iS Not pErfoRmInG aS gOOd As I sAW oN yOuTuBe. WhA t IS a GoOd FaN CuRVe??!!? wHat aRe tEh GoOd OvERclok SeTTinGS FoR My CaRd?? HoW CaN I foRcE my GpU to uSe 1o0%? BuT WiLL i HaVE Bo0tllEnEcKs? RyZEN dOeS NoT peRfORm BetTer wItH HiGhER sPEED RaM!!! dId i WiN teH SiLiCON LotTerrY? yOu ShoUlD dEsHrOuD uR GPU. my SYstEm iS UNDerPerforMiNg iN WarzONE. can mY Pc Run WiNdOwS 11 ?? woUld BaKInG MY GRaPHics card fIX it? MultimETeR TeSTiNG!! aMd'S GpU DrIvErS aRe as goOD aS NviDia's YOU SHoUlD oVERCloCk yOUR ramS To 5000C18 Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1105935-huawei-confirms-mate-30-pro-wont-come-with-google-apps/#findComment-12905019 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2019 It's not like they'll care that much. The majority of their market is in China anyway where you can't get google apps in the first place Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1105935-huawei-confirms-mate-30-pro-wont-come-with-google-apps/#findComment-12905029 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, Levent said: I hope they sell it a little cheaper because of that. It only takes 2 minutes to sideload google apps anyways. To properly use Gapps, you will need to flash it. i really hope Huawei lets its users unlock their bootloders again. Quote It only takes 2 minutes to sideload google apps anyways. For someone like my mom, it will be a deal breaker. For non tech people downloading random apk from the internet and installing it sounds like a good way to get viruses. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1105935-huawei-confirms-mate-30-pro-wont-come-with-google-apps/#findComment-12905049 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2019 I hope they unlock the bootloader for users outside China, but chances are very slim. Ryzen 5 3600 | Nvidia Quadro P400 | Gigabyte B550I Aorus Pro AX | Klevv Bolt XR 2x8GB DDR4-3600 CL18 Acer Chromebook C720 @ GalliumOS Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1105935-huawei-confirms-mate-30-pro-wont-come-with-google-apps/#findComment-12905075 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2019 It'll be interesting to see how badly this affects their sales. They've apparently already given up on the idea of launching in Central Europe, and I don't imagine they're going to be launching in North America either. Sure, they'll do well in China, but they're on par with Xiaomi iirc when it comes to marketshare so I imagine they're going to go downhill a fair bit if they don't get the Google thing figured out. Not that I have any interest in them anyway. CPU: Ryzen 9 5900 Cooler: EVGA CLC280 Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Pro AX RAM: Kingston Hyper X 32GB 3200mhz Storage: WD 750 SE 500GB, WD 730 SE 1TB GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 Ti PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Streacom DA2 Monitor: LG 27GL83B Mouse: Razer Basilisk V2 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Speakers: Mackie CR5BT MiniPC - Sold for $100 Profit Spoiler CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit Spoiler CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5 RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980 PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73 Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red OG Gaming Rig - Gone Spoiler CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970 PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1105935-huawei-confirms-mate-30-pro-wont-come-with-google-apps/#findComment-12905244 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2019 Well the specs do look attractive on paper but I'll wait for the LTT reviews to come out before I make any decisions (or wait longer for the P40 model) 3 hours ago, Levent said: I hope they sell it a little cheaper because of that. It only takes 2 minutes to sideload google apps anyways. Pro model is as expensive as the iphone 11. Sideloading has become slightly harder because of more stricter certification from google, however it was also rurmoured that Huawei will allow bootloader unlock so getting MicroG or something similar would be easy if true. Specs: Motherboard: Asus X470-PLUS TUF gaming (Yes I know it's poor but I wasn't informed) RAM: Corsair VENGEANCE® LPX DDR4 3200Mhz CL16-18-18-36 2x8GB CPU: Ryzen 9 5900X Case: Antec P8 PSU: Corsair RM850x Cooler: Antec K240 with two Noctura Industrial PPC 3000 PWM Drives: Samsung 970 EVO plus 250GB, Micron 1100 2TB, Seagate ST4000DM000/1F2168 GPU: EVGA RTX 2080 ti Black edition Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1105935-huawei-confirms-mate-30-pro-wont-come-with-google-apps/#findComment-12905352 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2019 8 hours ago, krakkpott said: I hope they unlock the bootloader for users outside China, but chances are very slim. Yeah ... but to be realistic most consumer aren't looking for a phone for unlockability of bootloader but this would def help in term of custom development scene if this happen. 4 hours ago, williamcll said: Well the specs do look attractive on paper but I'll wait for the LTT reviews to come out before I make any decisions (or wait longer for the P40 model) Pro model is as expensive as the iphone 11. Sideloading has become slightly harder because of more stricter certification from google, however it was also rurmoured that Huawei will allow bootloader unlock so getting MicroG or something similar would be easy if true. For most consumer this should be fine as most of major messaging services will work without google services/play store. As services such as whatapps/messenger/signal have fallback method for push notification. 8 hours ago, nerdslayer1 said: To properly use Gapps, you will need to flash it. i really hope Huawei lets its users unlock their bootloders again. For someone like my mom, it will be a deal breaker. For non tech people downloading random apk from the internet and installing it sounds like a good way to get viruses. You should have looks at F-Droid or Aurora Store (mirror of google play store), I have already moved my parents off relying on google services so I just tell them to use this app store instead (Aurora Store) as it essentially is just google play store. Essentially LOS with MicroG. You can installed gapps without "flashing it", it just the OEMs need to implemented it into their system/rom. Xiaomi app store allow you install google services without flashing anything. Magical Pineapples
