can you ltt team start filming in 60fps 8k, and uploading in 8k 60fps

[JohnDoeVolvo]

hello i would like to request that all future content be shot and uploading in 8k 60fps .   as there is some content on youtube for 60fps 8k , I feel it would be a smart move as 8k tvs come to market. You will be gaining new subs and views from viewers who are seeking 8k footage when the tvs come to market.

 

 

you just upgraded your internet and servers so I don't think this should be a problem for the ltt group.

 

 

 

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, JohnDoeVolvo said:

new subs and views from viewers who are seeking 8k footage

Ah yes, the 3 people with 8k

[TrigrH]

6 minutes ago, JohnDoeVolvo said:

you just upgraded your internet and servers so I don't think this should be a problem for the ltt group.

Do you know how hard it is to edit in 8k?

[Saccaed]

A bit excessive for anything other than some special content. Certainly would not help anyone with how long it would take to transcode 8k.

[kirashi]

18 minutes ago, JohnDoeVolvo said:

hello i would like to request that all future content be shot and uploading in 8k 60fps .   as there is some content on youtube for 60fps 8k , I feel it would be a smart move as 8k tvs come to market. You will be gaining new subs and views from viewers who are seeking 8k footage when the tvs come to market.

 

you just upgraded your internet and servers so I don't think this should be a problem for the ltt group.

Um... while I don't disagree that recording at maximum quality would be beneficial, not just for viewers but for also editing, I'm gonna say this right now: there's no market for 8K, let alone 4K, right now. Yes, the technology exists, yes, some people can afford it, and yes, you technically can edit 8K footage, however the number of people with 8K displays, let alone 4K displays, and the lack of video cards that even support 8K or 4K properly all make it not worth the effort & costs to shoot & edit in 8K for the time being.

 

Additionally, while certain RED camera's do support shooting in native 8K at 60fps or 75fps, the quality leaves much to be desired if you're trying to recreate a natural film-look instead of an all digital look (subjective) as does the reliability & versatility of using a RED vs ARRI camera (objective) depending on the features & functionality you need. The film landscape is definitely changing as technology becomes more accessible, but we're still a long way off from native 8K content, as 4K content isn't even a standard thing yet.

https://www.cinema5d.com/red-vs-arri-the-fight-for-the-soul-of-digital-filmmaking/

[SenKa]

Can Youtube even support 8k playback?

[Mr.Muffins]

Not to mention the YUGE amount of data they have to be transferring between drives. Yikes!

[kirashi]

Just now, SenpaiKaplan said:

Can Youtube even support 8k playback?

Yes, there are a few videos uploaded to YouTube in placebo I mean, 4160p60 quality, but very few machines can play them back without micro stuttering. Plus, if you don't have an 8K display, you're downscaling the video anyway, which is a waste of internet bandwidth for anyone on a metered connection.

 

[SkilledRebuilds]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=8k+60fps

 

The ONLY reason to do so now...  (LTT uploading 8K) is to either show off examples for WHY you'd want it,... and the main reason IMO for creators,.. the Youtube Bitrate boost,... but think of the excess computing required to shift to 8K trans-coding and storage mechanisms you'll need as well...

(Backend Video Datarate Increases on Youtube Quality would be why most jump into 8K uploading without a 8K source)

 

I like the downscaled 8K, fullscreen on my 35" 1080p panel (where its more noticeable than 24-25" panels)

[Bitter]

I'd like to see the videos in 320x240 in .rm files so I can stream them to my Windows 95 desktop. There are literally several of us, you're ignoring an important user base!

[SkilledRebuilds]

Just now, Bitter said:

I'd like to see the videos in 320x240 in .rm files so I can stream them to my Windows 95 desktop. There are literally several of us, you're ignoring an important user base!

I put GRID2 on a Dell Optiples i7 3770 and ran it from the HD4000 iGPU at 720p Low-Medium for 30-50fps ranges.

I did notice it went all the way down to 320x240 and once applied,... for the lols, I had to edit the config to remove it,..as I couldn't read anything anymore...

Must be cos I'm old...

[Bitter]

1 minute ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

I like the downscaled 8K, fullscreen on my 35" 1080p panel (where its more noticeable than 24-25" panels)

Downscaled 4K looks really nice on my mediocre Samsung 40" TV, better than 1080P because pixel reasons, that whole compression and chroma subsampling stuff.

[JohnDoeVolvo]

 

51 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

Do you know how hard it is to edit in 8k?

 

OK .. ok  I'll settle for 4k 60fps  ....,........

 

[bloodthirster]

My stills camera's resolution is slightly above 8k (only about by 33%) and those are a pain to edit unless it's on a OC'd multicore system with a decent GPU...  I can't imagine what type of system would be needed for making editing 8k video pleasant.  I guess LMG does it though because IIRC they record and edit in 8k and then output to 4k.

[PlayStation 2]

1 hour ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

Can Youtube even support 8k playback?

YouTube has provisions for 4320p video. It has provisions for 4320p60 video, as a matter of fact.

It's a matter of whether or not your hardware can be arsed to do so.

[D13H4RD]

......why tho 

[WereCatf]

3 hours ago, JohnDoeVolvo said:

You will be gaining new subs

Yeah, no.

[JohnDoeVolvo]

19 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

Yeah, no.

well at least, i will finally sub....

 

 

been watching since Linus did a dual projector video and played racing game on it I believe.

 

i never created a YouTube account, so don't trash too hard due to not subbing since all this time.

 

24 minutes ago, D13H4RD said:

......why tho 

i like soap opera effect ,  makes the TV look hyper realistic. so 60fps+ is needed

[WereCatf]

12 minutes ago, JohnDoeVolvo said:

well at least, i will finally sub....

Whooptydoo. Most people who like Linus's stuff have already subscribed and for most people who haven't subscribed yet missing 8K-res video ain't the reason. Then there's the fact that a handful of subs is entirely meaningless to them. I mean, they have over 8 million subs already -- even a couple of thousands subs would barely even register.

 

"Butbutbut...*I* will sub!!!111oneoneleven" -- you're way overestimating your importance.

[D13H4RD]

24 minutes ago, JohnDoeVolvo said:

I like soap opera effect ,  makes the TV look hyper realistic. so 60fps+ is needed

You'll be waiting a long while then since we're not yet at the level where 8K footage can be edited in a timely manner and also played back without significant performance issues 

[RasmusDC]

60hz is not great for content, with video, i makes everything look like soap operas. i do however like it when showing benchmarks and Stuff..

 

the 8K youtube compressions is bad, but 8k would always be better even when running 4k because of the larger bitrate, but it just seems such a waste of time, and money at the current state.

 

a few monitors and one samsung display supports it.. 

[JohnDoeVolvo]

9 hours ago, RasmusDC said:

60hz is not great for content, with video, i makes everything look like soap operas. i do however like it when showing benchmarks and Stuff..

 

the 8K youtube compressions is bad, but 8k would always be better even when running 4k because of the larger bitrate, but it just seems such a waste of time, and money at the current state.

 

a few monitors and one samsung display supports it.. 

i previously said i like soap opera effect ,  makes the TV look hyper realistic. so 60fps+ is needed.

 

who says its not great for content? because people try try to force an old standard (24p) and don't want to update to newer tech because it is too expensive for them...  have you seen the hobbit 48fps? looks good to me and that's just my opinion

10 hours ago, D13H4RD said:

You'll be waiting a long while then since we're not yet at the level where 8K footage can be edited in a timely manner and also played back without significant performance issues 

don't they release 30-60+ day old footage anyways? timely isn't really part of this subject, at least thats my opinion.

 

10 hours ago, WereCatf said:

Whooptydoo. Most people who like Linus's stuff have already subscribed and for most people who haven't subscribed yet missing 8K-res video ain't the reason. Then there's the fact that a handful of subs is entirely meaningless to them. I mean, they have over 8 million subs already -- even a couple of thousands subs would barely even register.

 

"Butbutbut...*I* will sub!!!111oneoneleven" -- you're way overestimating your importance.

i was being sarcastic......   thats why i put all the dots/periods after i said at least i'll finally sub.   i thought you were suppose to put a lot of periods after something you want to over exaggerate?

[aezakmi]

Lets make it 16k and 240 fps

 

because why not

[Rune]

To be honest I'd rather have 2k HDR...

[Syntaxvgm]

their 8k cameras are for 4k. There's a reason for that- a higher raw res allows you a lot more flexibility to work with the footage, like idk zooming in digitally in post.