Posted January 24, 2019 So this is maybe one of the more bizarre ideas i've seen for a while. but it does go to show just how much the Chinese government knows about it's citizens. Quote State-run newspaper China Daily reported that officials in the Chinese province of Hebei created the app, named 'map of deadbeat debtors', which can be accessed through social media app WeChat. The app alerts users with a flash when they are within 500 meters of someone who is in debt - the newspaper claimed. It also shows the exact location of the debtor, although it is not clear whether it displays any personal information. Aimed at getting citizens to keep an eye on people in debt, it is not clear how much debt a person must be in to be featured. China Daily said it would let people 'whistle-blow on debtors capable of paying their debts.' The new system, an extension on a person's credit score, will come into use in 2020 and will judge a person based on their trustworthiness and behavior on public transport. . Quote The app name translates to “map of deadbeat debtors”, and can be accessed via WeChat, China’s most popular instant-messaging platform. The idea is that it will allow people to “whistle-blow on debtors capable of paying their debts.” The Hebei-based app is one part of this tracking system, but this social credit scoring is already having an impact in China. According to China Daily, more than 6,000 people who failed to pay their taxes on time or misbehaved on public transport were barred from taking planes or trains in and out of China between June 2018 and January 2019. It’s not only this type of app that displays the Chinese future of social credit. One project, named Sesame Credit from the financial wing of the tech company Alibaba, teamed up with a matchmaking service Baihe to promote clients with good credit scores, as reported by the BBC. Imagine being blocked from Tinder because you hadn’t paid your student loan off yet. It’s frightening, to say the least. There is yet to be any details regarding rewards for people to actually "whistle blow" on this kind of thing, I can only imagine the Chinese Government will come up with some way to incentivize their citizens to do their job for them. Quote Additionally, the new system is blocking tons of people from booking flights and train rides. Among some of the other ways you can draw scrutiny to yourself and potentially a negative score is if you reportedly play an excessive amount of video games and post fake news online. You can also be punished with slower internet speeds, reduced access to good schools and getting banned from certain jobs. a bad credit score can suck, but imagine if it was tied to almost everything in your life? Quote *slap roofs of china* This baby can fit so many dystopian books in it. Normally i would say that this will never take off because of how stupid it is and how easily abusable the system is, but this is China; Human Rights ignoring champion for the last forever amount of years Reminds me of the Black Mirror episode "Nosedive". i remember watching this and thinking "wow that would suck to have everything in your life tied to a points system that determines what you can do and your worth in society". China on the other hand thought "holy shit, that's the best idea ever" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6620879/China-launches-app-tells-500-yards-debt.html?ito=social-facebook https://www.standard.co.uk/tech/chinese-debt-app-wechat-a4046936.html https://nypost.com/2019/01/23/new-app-in-china-shows-you-whos-racking-up-debt/ ◒ ◒ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 Ouch... Imagine google was a country... oh wait ITS BEEN HERE ALL ALONG FNIGE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 Sesame credit strikes again! (here is a video for people who have no idea what we are talking about) In search of the future, new tech, and exploring the universe! All under the cover of anonymity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 Having random extremely trustworthy citizens determine if you look like you can pay, AND see your exact location? What a great idea! Why doesn't everyone do this? CPU: I9-7900X RAM: 64GB (16X4) DDR4-2933 GPU: RTX 3080 MOBO: ASUS X299 Deluxe PSU: Corsair RM850 SSD: ADATA XPG SX8200 PRO 1TB HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB Case: Corsair iCUE 465X Cooler: Corsair 280 AIO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 Imagine being in debt anywhere. Specs: Motherboard: Asus X470-PLUS TUF gaming (Yes I know it's poor but I wasn't informed) RAM: Corsair VENGEANCE® LPX DDR4 3200Mhz CL16-18-18-36 2x8GB CPU: Ryzen 9 5900X Case: Antec P8 PSU: Corsair RM850x Cooler: Antec K240 with two Noctura Industrial PPC 3000 PWM Drives: Samsung 970 EVO plus 250GB, Micron 1100 2TB, Seagate ST4000DM000/1F2168 GPU: EVGA RTX 2080 ti Black edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 well thats....dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, williamcll said: Imagine being in debt anywhere. oh fuck I owe someone $3 FUCK FUCK FUCK 8086k aorus pro z390 noctua nh-d15s chromax w black cover evga 3070 ultra samsung 128gb, adata swordfish 1tb, wd blue 1tb seasonic 620w dogballs psu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 It's china. I am not surprised. Motherboard ROG Strix B350-F Gaming | CPU Ryzen 5 1600 | GPU Sapphire Radeon RX 480 Nitro+ OC | RAM Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3000MHz 2x8Gb | OS Drive Crucial MX300 525Gb M.2 | WiFi Card ASUS PCE-AC68 | Case Switch 810 Gunmetal Grey SE | Storage WD 1.5tb, SanDisk Ultra 3D 500Gb, Samsung 840 EVO 120Gb | NAS Solution Synology 413j 8TB (6TB with 2TB redundancy using Synology Hybrid RAID) | Keyboard SteelSeries APEX | Mouse Razer Naga MMO Edition Green | Fan Controller Sentry LXE | Screens Sony 43" TV | Sound Logitech 5.1 X530 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, williamcll said: Imagine being in debt anywhere. Forever alone because you drag everyone credit score down. Your family will kick you out, your girlfriend will dump you, and your friends abandoned you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 I'm starting to think the problem with "Evil AI" is that the majority of people might view them as an improvement over the current leadership. Pretty much across the globe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 seriously...if you get into debt you lose access to transit, and you stay in debt forever until you die because you cant get a job. how fucked up is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 Easy fix: Don't be born in China. Resident Mozilla Shill. Typed on my Ortholinear JJ40 custom keyboard __ I am the ASCIIDino. / _) _.----._/ / If you can see me you / / must put me in your __/ ( | ( | signature for 24 hours. /__.-'|_|--|_| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 Can't wait for the Anon posts about this one. "Be me Be Born in China..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 Good thing I'm not Chinese. I'd get reported the whole day. My status would be worthless. The ability to google properly is a skill of its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 Finally a reason to beat up random people out of the blue. | Intel i7-3770@4.2Ghz | Asus Z77-V | Zotac 980 Ti Amp! Omega | DDR3 1800mhz 4GB x4 | 300GB Intel DC S3500 SSD | 512GB Plextor M5 Pro | 2x 1TB WD Blue HDD | | Enermax NAXN82+ 650W 80Plus Bronze | Fiio E07K | Grado SR80i | Cooler Master XB HAF EVO | Logitech G27 | Logitech G600 | CM Storm Quickfire TK | DualShock 4 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 Imagine going to a job interview with that kind of neon sign screaming over everything you say and try to do. Get down and stay down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 Each and every day I like China a little bit more, I like this idea and the social credit scoring in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 How is this practical to implement? People with debts will never install it, cant force android users too. only adding this spyware in next ios is possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 I mean, there's just nothing good about this story at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said: How is this practical to implement? People with debts will never install it, cant force android users too. only adding this spyware in next ios is possible It's embedded in WeChat which must be a very popular app in China, also iOS has a relatively small marketshare in China because of how expensive they are and the wide array of local Chinese phones available. But you're correct, Apple would never allow this type of monitoring on their devices, unless the US Government wanted them to implement a similar feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 NO SNITCHIN' !!! "You know it'll clock down as soon as it hits 40°C, right?" - "Yeah ... but it doesnt hit 40°C ... ever " GPU: MSI GTX1080 Ti Aero @ 2 GHz (watercooled) CPU: Ryzen 5600X (watercooled) RAM: 32GB 3600Mhz Corsair LPX MB: Gigabyte B550i PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Hyte Revolt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 I don’t respect the Chinese Government Laptop: 2019 16" MacBook Pro i7, 512GB, 5300M 4GB, 16GB DDR4 | Phone: iPhone 13 Pro Max 128GB | Wearables: Apple Watch SE | Car: 2007 Ford Taurus SE | CPU: R7 5700X | Mobo: ASRock B450M Pro4 | RAM: 32GB 3200 | GPU: ASRock RX 5700 8GB | Case: Apple PowerMac G5 | OS: Win 11 | Storage: 1TB Crucial P3 NVME SSD, 1TB PNY CS900, & 4TB WD Blue HDD | PSU: Be Quiet! Pure Power 11 600W | Display: LG 27GL83A-B 1440p @ 144Hz, Dell S2719DGF 1440p @144Hz | Cooling: Wraith Prism | Keyboard: G610 Orion Cherry MX Brown | Mouse: G305 | Audio: Audio Technica ATH-M50X & Blue Snowball | Server: 2018 Core i3 Mac mini, 128GB SSD, Intel UHD 630, 16GB DDR4 | Storage: OWC Mercury Elite Pro Quad (6TB WD Blue HDD, 12TB Seagate Barracuda, 1TB Crucial SSD, 2TB Seagate Barracuda HDD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Fez_Boy said: Easy fix: Don't be born in China. Or just die early because you can't breathe there anyway. 8086k aorus pro z390 noctua nh-d15s chromax w black cover evga 3070 ultra samsung 128gb, adata swordfish 1tb, wd blue 1tb seasonic 620w dogballs psu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, DrMacintosh said: I don’t respect the Chinese Government Imma be honest, Xi Jinping is scary. 8086k aorus pro z390 noctua nh-d15s chromax w black cover evga 3070 ultra samsung 128gb, adata swordfish 1tb, wd blue 1tb seasonic 620w dogballs psu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 24, 2019 the entirety of China created this app did they? the anti china sentiment in this place is unsettling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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