I wanna become a logo/Graphics designer?? BUT CANT DRAW ?‍♂️

[WolfLoverPro]

Ok so I don’t mean as a full time job but I mean spare time hobby 

 

I’m just into logo designing BUT I CANT DRAW for shit 

 

i have always wanted to be a good drawer but not matter how much I try everyday I don’t get better maybe I was born with the ability not to learn to draw at least it seems like it to me ? 

 

Idk anyone can give me any tips 

 

what should I start learning first ? 

 

Or or is it literally learn to draw and that’s it ??

 

 

[Ithanul]

Practice with basic shapes first: circles, squares, triangles, etc. Then proceed to doing those in three dimensions. It is not fun stuff to draw, but helps to get the hang of those shapes, as one can use those as a framework to do larger more detailed drawings.

[Jtalk4456]

 

[piemadd]

[WolfLoverPro]

10 hours ago, Jtalk4456 said:

 

Funny thing is even her kid drawings are probably better than if I try hard LOL 

 

i think its just if your born born to be able to draw

[Misanthrope]

I want to become a male underwear model but I am a fat tub of shit: Don't get me wrong there's a bit of a market for that but it's extremely limited.

 

I suspect the same is for graphic designers who can't draw, but as in the analogy there's probably a few limitations you can overcome with a lot of practice and a lot of help.

 

So keep drawing, look up tutorials, ask for help, cheers!

[Tech_Dreamer]

Lynda.com , start there. or better yet there are free ones on YouTube. kinda an ad riddled nuisance but you'll get the proper info nevertheless.

[Jtalk4456]

16 hours ago, ImplosiveNUTech said:

The initial circles you drew are at slightly different angles than the finished owl, and would therefore provide a different perspective

[bowrilla]

Drawing/Sketching is often not required for logo designs. You should be well proficient with Adobe Illustrator though. Most logos are typo or mixed logos with some typo and added elements. The rarest kind are full on figurative logos without any typo. Even those can be created by tracing some stock picture and then by modding the paths. If you can't do that either you should really try out some sketching courses. It is a skill that can be learned. If that doesn't work either … accept that there are things that just don't work out for you. Heck, I'd love to be an astronaut but I'm neither in the medical shape nor of the right profession to be one.

[CloroxBleach57]

Digital logo  design can be done by entering a lot of numbers to add effects to things, such as vector logos. You don't even have to be good at freehanding with a mouse, just use easier tools like lines and curves.

[WolfLoverPro]

9 hours ago, bowrilla said:

Drawing/Sketching is often not required for logo designs. You should be well proficient with Adobe Illustrator though. Most logos are typo or mixed logos with some typo and added elements. The rarest kind are full on figurative logos without any typo. Even those can be created by tracing some stock picture and then by modding the paths. If you can't do that either you should really try out some sketching courses. It is a skill that can be learned. If that doesn't work either … accept that there are things that just don't work out for you. Heck, I'd love to be an astronaut but I'm neither in the medical shape nor of the right profession to be one.

 

21 hours ago, Misanthrope said:

I want to become a male underwear model but I am a fat tub of shit: Don't get me wrong there's a bit of a market for that but it's extremely limited.

 

I suspect the same is for graphic designers who can't draw, but as in the analogy there's probably a few limitations you can overcome with a lot of practice and a lot of help.

 

So keep drawing, look up tutorials, ask for help, cheers!

But weight you can change easily anyone can do it 

 

drawing i I feel like anyone can’t lol or at least me

[QuantumBit]

people arent born with the ability to draw theyre born with the ambition to draw

[Ezzy-525]

Grate Artiste has been pretty successful (internet successful that is) without being able to draw.

 

https://imgur.com/user/GrateArtiste/submitted

[Misanthrope]

2 hours ago, WolfLoverPro said:

But weight you can change easily anyone can do it

Not by a long shot. It depends on how long you have been overweight, how you managed to lose the weight to begin with and overall the consensus is that obese people who loose the weight still don't have the same metabolism as people who never were overweight to begin with and are basically obese people in remission.

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(15)00009-1/fulltext

 

Anybody can loose some weight (i.e. a handful of kilograms you put after overeating during xmas season for example) but after a certain obesity ratio and length we are biologically designed to keep the weight.

[MoonlightSylv]

2 hours ago, WolfLoverPro said:

 

But weight you can change easily anyone can do it 

 

drawing i I feel like anyone can’t lol or at least me

Drawing is a learnable skill, not something you’re born with. It seems like you just don’t want to put in the effort to learn it.

[TVwazhere]

[NinJake]

 

15 second paint challenge. pretty good if I must say so myself

 

But honestly, don't try to use a mouse, It's possible but you really need a good WACOM tablet or the physical media to draw effectively IMO. However in graphic design, you might not need to draw well, but knowing how to layer, and tweak the filters of each layer can result in great unique designs.

[WolfLoverPro]

4 hours ago, Sylvie05 said:

Drawing is a learnable skill, not something you’re born with. It seems like you just don’t want to put in the effort to learn it.

i dont want to put the effort no only beacuse ive drawing every day and its still shit like whatever i do lol so im kinda not seeming to be getting better

[Syntaxvgm]

On 5/9/2018 at 8:39 PM, ImplosiveNUTech said:

One of my favorite subs.

[LAwLz]

Seriously dude, stop.

I get that you're a young child with very little patience but please, try and put a little bit of effort into things before you go on this forum and whine about how you aren't great at something you haven't even practiced.

 

In this thread you want to get good at drawing and become a graphics artist.

In this thread you asked how to get better at playing the piano.

Here you were talking about being interested in astronomy.

Last month you wanted to get into amateur radio.

In this thread you wanted to "learn the language taxi drivers speak", probably related to this thread as well.

In this thread you wanted to get into "hacking"

Oh and let's not forget that you were interested in getting into pool a few months ago.

You are also into cosplay it seems.

On top of that you seem to spend a lot of time making threads on here, as well as playing video games.

 

I could go on but I think people get the point.

Wanna know how to get good at something? Practice. When I say practice I don't mean "I drew for an hour yesterday and today, and I haven't gotten any better bawwww".

I mean dedicating hours every day, for years.

You need to find something you enjoy doing, and then stick with that if you want to get good at it. You can't just pick a hobby, do it for a week, complain on this forum about how hard it is, and then move on to the next thing. Well, you can do that but I'd prefer if you left out the part where you make a bunch of threads about it on the forum.

[Sir Asvald]

12 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Seriously dude, stop.

I get that you're a young child with very little patience but please, try and put a little bit of effort into things before you go on this forum and whine about how you aren't great at something you haven't even practiced.

Why are you stopping him from wanting to learn everything? Yes he's a kid. That's what kids do. They explore stuff and learn. The minute you tell them "NO, you can't do this and that" they'll stop everything. That is the problem these days..forcing kids to do one thing. Give them more options. If they end up growing up with that one thing that they resent. They'll hate themselves, and their parents/guardian or whatever.. I'm living in an Arab household, bought up in the UK, where there options we can choose from. But with the Arab mentality, either become doctor, engineer. Anything else is seen as waste of time..

[ScratchCat]

19 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Seriously dude, stop.

I get that you're a young child with very little patience but please, try and put a little bit of effort into things before you go on this forum and whine about how you aren't great at something you haven't even practiced.

 

In this thread you want to get good at drawing and become a graphics artist.

In this thread you asked how to get better at playing the piano.

Here you were talking about being interested in astronomy.

Last month you wanted to get into amateur radio.

In this thread you wanted to "learn the language taxi drivers speak", probably related to this thread as well.

In this thread you wanted to get into "hacking"

Oh and let's not forget that you were interested in getting into pool a few months ago.

You are also into cosplay it seems.

On top of that you seem to spend a lot of time making threads on here, as well as playing video games.

 

I could go on but I think people get the point.

Wanna know how to get good at something? Practice. When I say practice I don't mean "I drew for an hour yesterday and today, and I haven't gotten any better bawwww".

I mean dedicating hours every day, for years.

You need to find something you enjoy doing, and then stick with that if you want to get good at it. You can't just pick a hobby, do it for a week, complain on this forum about how hard it is, and then move on to the next thing. Well, you can do that but I'd prefer if you left out the part where you make a bunch of threads about it on the forum.

This is more of a case "Instead of looking for something myself I will ask people for help" - something which may work in real life i.e. asking directions in a different instead of trying to understand a map in a different language you do not speak but does not work online where just typing the same thing into Google will provide a better result.

 

Piano - 4 May

Astronomy - 8 April

Radio - 7 April

Taxi language - 27 March

Hacking - 24 February

Pool - 8 February

Cosplay - 25 December

It is possible to have more than one hobby at a single time and he seems to spend around 3-4 weeks on each, more if you include the ability to handle multiple hobbies. A hobby is not a thing where you choose a task e.g. programming, HAM radio and then continue with this hobby and only this hobby for 6 months, find you do not like it and repeat - that is not how humans function, rather they search for a task they like and if they find that hobby they continue with it.

 

Additionally hobbies are not just for mastering a given task - they generally are there to provide enjoyment. Look at most FPS players on consoles, they play games frequently focusing not on the long term goal of improvement but the short term goal of enjoyment. How many FPS players have you seen freely choosing a pistol or equivilantly weak weapon in order to focus on learning tactics to later reap the benefits when they switch back to a conventional weapon? Probably none. If I am interested in machine learning, mess around a bit and discover that due to the lack of a CUDA GPU I cannot use networks larger than 3x150 dense layers without spending days training I do not continue to waste my time but move on to a different topic.

 

 

 

 

 

[LAwLz]

1 hour ago, Abdul201588 said:

Why are you stopping him from wanting to learn everything? Yes he's a kid. That's what kids do. They explore stuff and learn. The minute you tell them "NO, you can't do this and that" they'll stop everything. That is the problem these days..forcing kids to do one thing. Give them more options. If they end up growing up with that one thing that they resent. They'll hate themselves, and their parents/guardian or whatever.. I'm living in an Arab household, bought up in the UK, where there options we can choose from. But with the Arab mentality, either become doctor, engineer. Anything else is seen as waste of time..

I recommend you read my entire post before responding.

 

I did not say he should stop learning things. What I said is that he should not complain when he isn't a master at something from the start. He is also asking for help for ridiculous things to the point where I really believe he is just pretending all of these things to troll.

Like I said in my previous post, he needs to find something he enjoys doing. Right now it seems like he just wants to be great at something like drawing, but then he doesn't actually enjoy doing it. He likes the result but not the process, and he uses this forum as his personal blog to vent about how he doesn't enjoy things, or ask for some ridiculous shortcut.

 

Wanna know why most people are terrible at drawing? Because in order to be good at drawing you need a lot of practice. Years of practice if you want to be really good at it.

Most people don't like spending a lot of time on a drawing only for it to look like crap in the end. The ones who do however, they are the ones that gets good at it. You need to find something you enjoy doing even though the result is bad.

It's the same advice I give to people who want to start a youtube career. If you don't enjoy making videos that get 5 views, then you should not make youtube videos. You need to like the process of making videos, rather than liking getting views.

[WolfLoverPro]

10 hours ago, LAwLz said:

Seriously dude, stop.

I get that you're a young child with very little patience but please, try and put a little bit of effort into things before you go on this forum and whine about how you aren't great at something you haven't even practiced.

 

In this thread you want to get good at drawing and become a graphics artist.

In this thread you asked how to get better at playing the piano.

Here you were talking about being interested in astronomy.

Last month you wanted to get into amateur radio.

In this thread you wanted to "learn the language taxi drivers speak", probably related to this thread as well.

In this thread you wanted to get into "hacking"

Oh and let's not forget that you were interested in getting into pool a few months ago.

You are also into cosplay it seems.

On top of that you seem to spend a lot of time making threads on here, as well as playing video games.

 

I could go on but I think people get the point.

Wanna know how to get good at something? Practice. When I say practice I don't mean "I drew for an hour yesterday and today, and I haven't gotten any better bawwww".

I mean dedicating hours every day, for years.

You need to find something you enjoy doing, and then stick with that if you want to get good at it. You can't just pick a hobby, do it for a week, complain on this forum about how hard it is, and then move on to the next thing. Well, you can do that but I'd prefer if you left out the part where you make a bunch of threads about it on the forum.

well excuse me .. but i do do al my hobbies everyday ... yeah apart from drawing beacuse i CANT seem to be better , and so what about i posted that i was interested in astronomy? at least im interested in alot of things >;{

[LAwLz]

1 hour ago, WolfLoverPro said:

well excuse me .. but i do do al my hobbies everyday ... yeah apart from drawing beacuse i CANT seem to be better , and so what about i posted that i was interested in astronomy? at least im interested in alot of things >;{

Again, I am not saying that you shouldn't try out different things. What I am saying is that you need to find something where you enjoy the process, rather than the result.

I don't get the impression that you enjoy drawing from your posts. I get the impression that you just want to be good at it.

If you like drawing despite "not being able to draw for shit" then just keep doing it and you will get better. Want some tips? Do a Google search and you will find a wealth of resources.

But don't pick up hobbies because you are only interested in the results. It's good to have goals to work towards, but that goal should not be the sole purpose for having a hobby. Then it's not a hobby, it's a chore and you will get bored by it. You need to find something you like even if you're crap at it.