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[i_build_nanosuits]

1 hour ago, GAME 55 said:

My question is:

Is a CVT better than an Automatic or a Dual-Clutch?

 

or is that just marketing and complete nonsense?

We have 2 Honda civic sport 2020 models mine is manual coupe and my wife have the 4 door auto...my car looks a lot sportier and cooler than her...BUT there is NO WAY I could catch her on a drag race for example...cause everytime I change gear...she doesn't...and I'm almost never on the peak power and torque range and she's always spot on banging ivtec on all cylinders all the time.

 

She also get better fuel mileage.

But...my car sound a lot better and is more fun to drive.

[Biomecanoid]

57 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

We have 2 Honda civic sport 2020 models mine is manual coupe and my wife have the 4 door auto...my car looks a lot sportier and cooler than her...BUT there is NO WAY I could catch her on a drag race for example...cause everytime I change gear...she doesn't...and I'm almost never on the peak power and torque range and she's always spot on banging ivtec on all cylinders all the time.

 

She also get better fuel mileage.

But...my car sound a lot better and is more fun to drive.

Also the transmission of a manual car will outlive an automatic, and repairs are much cheaper on a manual car

[PandaCopyRight]

24 minutes ago, Biomecanoid said:

Also the transmission of a manual car will outlive an automatic, and repairs are much cheaper on a manual car

sadly most manufacturers are starting to drop manuals ... for CVTs or automagics ... 

[bcredeur97]

CVT’s May be better but they’ll still have that rubber band effect and wait period when you press the go pedal while you’re already cruising 

 

also I’m not convinced that they can ever last as long as traditional auto or a manual (assuming all are taken care of) 

[PandaCopyRight]

1 minute ago, bcredeur97 said:

CVT’s May be better but they’ll still have that rubber band effect and wait period when you press the go pedal while you’re already cruising 

 

also I’m not convinced that they can ever last as long as traditional auto or a manual (assuming all are taken care of) 

nothing is as unreliable as a CVT

[HM-2]

3 hours ago, Biomecanoid said:

Also the transmission of a manual car will outlive an automatic

I'm not completely sure I agree, especially if you consider the prevalence of stuff like clutch and frequently accompanying (and often very expensive) DMF failures. I suppose it depends how you define "transmission" though.

[Bitter]

6 hours ago, Biomecanoid said:

Also the transmission of a manual car will outlive an automatic, and repairs are much cheaper on a manual car

As others have said, I'm not so sure anymore. I routinely see automatics doing 200,000 miles with no rebuild and only random fluid changes. I rarely see a stick shift that doesn't have some parts that affect it's operation worn out by those miles. Clutch, master/slave cylinder, clutch pedal bushings, shift bushings, syncro's, etc. In an automatic it's essentially an all in one box solution, with a manual trans though it's a whole system of parts which have to work properly for the trans to work properly. Slave cylinder IS part of a manual trans because without it the trans can't be shifted.

[bcredeur97]

5 hours ago, PandaCopyRight said:

nothing is as unreliable as a CVT

Correction. Nothing is as unreliable as a Nissan CVT

[Bitter]

4 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

Correction. Nothing is as unreliable as a Nissan CVT

I've recently had 3 generations of Rogue on the rack and I'm not even sure they're actually different cars. Under neath they all look like they're the same car, just different lights, body panels, and interior up top.

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 minute ago, Bitter said:

I've recently had 3 generations of Rogue on the rack and I'm not even sure they're actually different cars. Under neath they all look like they're the same car, just different lights, body panels, and interior up top.

Nissan has dropped so much in quality and reliability...I've read that they are now ranked worse than kia and Hyundai. I would never buy a Nissan personally.

[vetali]

9 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

We have 2 Honda civic sport 2020 models mine is manual coupe and my wife have the 4 door auto...my car looks a lot sportier and cooler than her...BUT there is NO WAY I could catch her on a drag race for example...cause everytime I change gear...she doesn't...and I'm almost never on the peak power and torque range and she's always spot on banging ivtec on all cylinders all the time.

 

She also get better fuel mileage.

But...my car sound a lot better and is more fun to drive.

This. When I got absolutely embarrassed in my mazda by a Karen in a civic is when I decided I would get one. Off the line they are pretty slow because they reduce power and torque to protect the CVT, but from a roll they are super quick. I get 35mpg with summer tires and driving like an ass. Pretty damn good.

 

Really just depends what brand. I'd say subaru and nissans are the worst I've driven. Early hondas in the accords and last gen CR-Vs are bad. Have not driven a new corolla yet with the 2 speed CVT. I drove a new RAV4 and that thing was super disappointing. Especially after driving a CH-R and being really impressed by how that thing drove.

[iDeFecZx]

15 hours ago, PandaCopyRight said:

die,also current automatics are overall better than many if not all DCT or manual boxes out there 

^ This, id argue that the best box on the market rn is ZFs 8 speed auto.

[bcredeur97]

6 hours ago, iDeFecZx said:

^ This, id argue that the best box on the market rn is ZFs 8 speed auto.

Still? It’s been around a while 

[vetali]

6 hours ago, iDeFecZx said:

^ This, id argue that the best box on the market rn is ZFs 8 speed auto.

The ZF 8 speed is good, but it ain't near the PDK and C8 transmissions which are the best two at the moment IMO.

[PandaCopyRight]

15 hours ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

Nissan has dropped so much in quality and reliability...I've read that they are now ranked worse than kia and Hyundai. I would never buy a Nissan personally.

i mean, Nissan started to go to shit after being aquired by Renault (or what they call it .. alliance ), round 2010 they were already terrible imo

like currently is just a shit renault and renault already is VERY bad ... 

[iDeFecZx]

3 hours ago, vetali said:

The ZF 8 speed is good, but it ain't near the PDK and C8 transmissions which are the best two at the moment IMO.

 

3 hours ago, bcredeur97 said:

Still? It’s been around a while 

For a regular kind of car atleast. If we're talking performance cars then yeah the PDK is king.

[HM-2]

2 hours ago, iDeFecZx said:

For a regular kind of car atleast. If we're talking performance cars then yeah the PDK is king.

^ this. PKD and to a lesser extent the recent BMW DCT systems are brilliant boxes if you're driving hard, but I'd much rather have the ZF8 around town or on a long motorway cruise.

[iDeFecZx]

2 minutes ago, HM-2 said:

^ this. PKD and to a lesser extent the recent BMW DCT systems are brilliant boxes if you're driving hard, but I'd much rather have the ZF8 around town or on a long motorway cruise.

Yeah, drove a new gen M3 yesterday for the first time and even with everything in comfort the box is wank at slow speeds but open it up a bit and its wonderful

[vetali]

7 hours ago, iDeFecZx said:

 

For a regular kind of car atleast. If we're talking performance cars then yeah the PDK is king.

I think I'd rank the C8 better. The tuning is very good on that for cruising and track. But thats just from an armchair perspective. I've driven neither.

[atxcyclist]

I just put the tools back after cleaning, lubricating, and adjusting my motorcycle chain, checking the oil level and coolant overflow tank level, and checking the fork and axle/major chassis bolts. The city I work in has decided to get all of their road construction done right now, so the highway I ride in on is all torn up; Checking bolts and stuff more frequently seems like a good idea.

[bcredeur97]

Hurricane Laura will be making landfall about 120 miles west of me. Wish me luck! Lol

 

20 foot storm surge expected on the coast. Nuts!! 

[AlwaysFSX]

Scubamiata

[chaozbandit]

Stay safe @bcredeur97, unsurvivable storm surges at this current level

 

Edit: heres a gif

 

 

[That_Random_Guy]

Got something done today at least. Wrapped my new BBK equal length headers.

STILL waiting on my new motor to arrive over a month later.

 

[bcredeur97]

On 8/26/2020 at 6:04 PM, AlwaysFSX said:

Scubamiata

The Miata fortunately is dry and safe. Lol 

On 8/26/2020 at 7:09 PM, chaozbandit said:

Stay safe @bcredeur97, unsurvivable storm surges at this current level

 

Edit: heres a gif

Good news is everything is good where I am. I think the storm surge was bad — but less than originally projected. So that’s good too 

 

main extent where I am is power outages, small limbs everywhere, and a few broken trees here and there. Didn’t see anything major. 
 

im not sure where wind gusts topped out at but around 5am it was crazy. House was making so many noises lol