Delidding a $1000 CPU - Worth the RISK??

[Emily Young]

Delidding can be difficult and dangerous - But CAN it reap rewards on the right CPU if you're willing to void your warranty?

 

 

Buy a Delid Die Mate 2:
On Caseking: http://geni.us/fWxSA8

 

Buy a Delid Die Mate X:
On Caseking: http://geni.us/KZqESv

 

Buy a Core i9 7900X:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/S5It1
On Newegg: http://geni.us/j9CelB

 

Buy a Core i7 7700K:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/bE1U

Edited October 9, 2017 by GabenJr
Fixed Delid Die Mate X link

[RadiatingLight]

Why the black bar?

What's there to hide?

[Alariel]

9 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Why the black bar?

What's there to hide?

CPU-nudity.

[minibois]

14 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Why the black bar?

What's there to hide?

Glued together CPU cores

/s

 

EDIT: commented before watching the video.. Thought this was the Threadripper delidding to put on the LTT vanity plate.. Nvm me.

[GER_T4IGA]

Srsly guys. The video was not bad I am very surprised you chumps forsaw going for liquid metal instead of better tooth paste. Which user would voice there warranty just to get marginally less bad results when benching/using their 1k core i9 toaster?

[Streetguru]

Are you guys going to borrow his Threadripper delid kit? I guess that likely would have already happened.

[Daniel644]

still no liquid metal?

[AnonymousGuy]

Why didn't this video come out 3 years ago when the blade method fell out of popularity?

[dizmo]

One could also buy from Silicone Lottery if they don't want to mess around with delidding on their own.

Not to mention it's a little cheaper (usually) than buying from a retailer.

[minibois]

This video is definitely better than the 'original delid video', but I still had wished liquid metal was used.

 

[Progressor]

This is an example of why you should research a topic before making a video instead making a half assed video and then making another one to correct it. Your first deliding video was complete bullshit, everything about it. This one  I'm glad you did this one in a much better way - at least you accounted for thermal throttling, you actually pushed(and overclocked) the cpu to the point where TIM would become a bottleneck for heat dissipation so you get more clear results , you tried 2 different cpus. Nothing has changed since your first video, Intel still uses the same crap for TIM but at least this time you did your testing in a way that would produce a result. Few things that would have made your video even better:

 

- you could have found an undelided 6700k so you can test if before and after deliding. Why do this again when you have done it before? Because when you did your first deliding of that cpu it was brand new and just released, now that this cpu is 2 years old it would have been interesting to see how much(and if) the thermal paste used for TIM has deteriorated which brings me to my next point. Not to mention this time you can do it in a proper way.

-  something that you missed in both your first video and this one is that a lot of people who delid, do it on their already old cpus rather than one one they just bought and not necessary for overclocking reasons. Why? Because intel's tooth paste of a TIM appears to lose it qualities over time making people cpu's worsen in temperature performance. You could have tested this by getting a 6700k or any older generation i series cpu(except for the first gen, those are soldered).

- since I mentioned overclockers, a lot of those delid not just to change the thermal paste but to eliminate it completely by either putting liquid metal for TIM and/or remove the IHS completely by putting a cooler directly on the crystal. Would have been nice to test that since I would have given even better results.

 

Anyway all of this is why I partiality disagree with your conclusion, yes for the average Joe who doesn't give a shit of what is inside their PC it's a bad idea but this isn't your audience(I hope so). If you overclock your cpu or are stuck with an older gen i series, or don't plan to change your cpu any time soon then deliding is absolutely worth it, provided you're tech savy enough to do it without breaking everything(which shouldn't be an issue considering this is a tech channel and the majority of your audience is tech savy).

[Enderman]

11:05 Why does Linus say Conductonaut?

Nowhere in the video did he use liquid metal, did he mean to say Kryonaut?

[Enderman]

6 minutes ago, Progressor said:

- since I mentioned overclockers, a lot of those delid not just to change the thermal paste but to eliminate it completely by either putting liquid metal for TIM and/or remove the IHS completely by putting a cooler directly on the crystal. Would have been nice to test that since I would have given even better results.

I think it would be really cool to see them do a "delid+thermal paste" vs "delid+liquid metal" vs "delid+liquid metal+no IHS"

[spat55]

No it's not worth it unless you are made of money. 

[Shreyas1]

I haven't seen a Linus drop in a while...

[DoctorWho1975]

All that silicon sealant is to keep heat in.

[Top_Hat_Tomato]

Does anyone know what water cooler was used in this video?

[DildorTheDecent]

37 minutes ago, spat55 said:

No it's not worth it unless you are made of money. 

There's near zero risk when using a delidding n00b tool. 

 

Have to made of supremely special stuff to cock it up. 

[Luscious]

So even at the $1000 level Intel still isn't providing customers with premium-grade material, yet they expect enthusiasts with deep pockets to drop twice that on their 18-core halo product which because of it's high power draw on the VRM's makes overclocking impossible for 24/7 use unless you go full water on your VRM's too.

 

Don't blame the engineers kids - blame the suit who green-lighted it.

 

If this is how Intel intends to rush their products out the door, then it's safe to say AMD has stuck their boot up Intel's rear end pretty good. And that's without the damage being done on the server side by Epyc.

[Cookybiscuit]

Got to love it still thermal throttling even after a delid, 7900X is such a piece of shit.

 

Probably should have used liquid metal, no reason not to.

[Mira Yurizaki]

Just now, Cookybiscuit said:

Got to love it still thermal throttling even after a delid, 7900X is such a piece of shit.

 

Probably should have used liquid metal, no reason not to.

What do you define as thermal throttling? Because if it's still maintaining base clock speed, it's not throttling.

[lagittaja]

Saying Conductonaut but you're using Kryonaut...

Jeez louise. Come on guys, do it properly if you decide to do it at all by actually using Conductonaut or Liquid Metal Pro which is the whole damn point of delidding. To remove the inferior TIM (+reduce the distance between die and IHS) and using LM which is a far superior thermal transfer medium.

[Lays]

1 hour ago, Luscious said:

So even at the $1000 level Intel still isn't providing customers with premium-grade material, yet they expect enthusiasts with deep pockets to drop twice that on their 18-core halo product which because of it's high power draw on the VRM's makes overclocking impossible for 24/7 use unless you go full water on your VRM's too.

 

Don't blame the engineers kids - blame the suit who green-lighted it.

 

If this is how Intel intends to rush their products out the door, then it's safe to say AMD has stuck their boot up Intel's rear end pretty good. And that's without the damage being done on the server side by Epyc.

I say good on them for making a product that actually requires going balls out to get top tier balls out performance.  Overclocking has become far too spoon-fed lately.

[spat55]

2 hours ago, DildorTheDecent said:

There's near zero risk when using a delidding n00b tool. 

 

Have to made of supremely special stuff to cock it up. 

It's still not worth the risk, even if you don't cock it up you'll invalidate the warranty! The only time it's worth delidding is when you have a older chip without warranty that you want to balls out overclock.

[dfg666]

35 minutes ago, Lays said:

Overclocking has become far too spoon-fed lately.

So you want it to be like the old days where overclocking is this "1337 crew" only thing? For the "big boys".