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7980xe Early Benchmarks

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https://videocardz.com/72680/intel-core-i9-7980xe-early-benchmarks

 

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The benchmarks come from Coolenjoy, where we learn that the CPU was tested on ASUS APEX motherboard (designed for overclockers). What was discovered is that the CPU boosts up to 4.2 GHz on all cores during Cinebench. It’s unclear if this is a motherboard-specific feature or this is exactly how it’s supposed to be. Officially the i9-7980X should only boost up to 4.4 GHz on two cores in Turbo Boost Max 3.0 and up to 4.2 GHz in Turbo Max 2.0.

 

As noted by the author, nothing except memory XMP profile was touched:

 

 

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That FireStrike Physics score is a higher than my GPU score.

 

Intel stop. I don't have enough organs to sell for this. 

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Someone buy me this so I can not fully utilize it.

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What are temps? Like 103C

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1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

What are temps? Like 103C

Max temperature under cinebench was 63C after 3 repeat runs. Remember, the die is physically larger on these than the 10c and below SKU's by a very substantial amount. While I certainly don't consider cinebench a thermal benchmark, it does show you that it won't immediately kill itself under "realistic" loads, lol. I imagine once you start overclocking with additional voltage, those numbers will get out of control. 

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On 1/2/2017 at 9:32 PM, MageTank said:

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Still going to stick with my 4790K until I need my computers for more than games+collating 98SE benchmarks.

Just now, MageTank said:

Max temperature under cinebench was 63C after 3 repeat runs. Remember, the die is physically larger on these than the 10c and below SKU's by a very substantial amount. While I certainly don't consider cinebench a thermal benchmark, it does show you that it won't immediately kill itself under "realistic" loads, lol. I imagine once you start overclocking with additional voltage, those numbers will get out of control. 

It would probably react the same as Devil's canyon due to Intel switching to an even shittier TIM. 4.8GHz and it destroyed my Seidon 120V whilst a Xeon X5450 at 4.4GHz (1.5V if I remember correctly) didn't cause any problems.

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8 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Still going to stick with my 4790K until I need my computers for more than games+collating 98SE benchmarks.

It would probably react the same as Devil's canyon due to Intel switching to an even shittier TIM. 4.8GHz and it destroyed my Seidon 120V whilst a Xeon X5450 at 4.4GHz (1.5V if I remember correctly) didn't cause any problems.

Nothing wrong with Dow Corning. They seemed to have gotten the application method fixed, and thermals look fine. Pay attention to the per-core variance of these X299 SKU's. It's seriously not bad at all. I would have preferred solder, but this issue is not as bad as people are making it out to be. The 10c just gets hot because it's a fairly small die to house 10 cores. Mark my words, the 12C will run cooler and clock higher at the same time. 

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On 1/2/2017 at 9:32 PM, MageTank said:

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39 minutes ago, MageTank said:

Max temperature under cinebench was 63C after 3 repeat runs. Remember, the die is physically larger on these than the 10c and below SKU's by a very substantial amount. While I certainly don't consider cinebench a thermal benchmark, it does show you that it won't immediately kill itself under "realistic" loads, lol. I imagine once you start overclocking with additional voltage, those numbers will get out of control. 

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Just now, BuckGup said:

Hopefully it won't cost 3 arms

$2000 is not cheap by any means, but I wish it was enough to buy 3 arms. My Goro cosplay would become a thing. 

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3 minutes ago, MageTank said:

$2000 is not cheap by any means, but I wish it was enough to buy 3 arms. My Goro cosplay would become a thing. 

Lol, I mean at 2K besides the .0001% who is really going to buy it? 

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5 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Lol, I mean at 2K besides the .0001% who is really going to buy it? 

@Lays seems to think it's going to be the best seller. Once he saves up his allowance, he is going to prove all of us wrong. :P 

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It won't be a best seller...but more people than you think will scoop it up.  Intel was very surprised by how many 6950x they sold at $1700+.

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It won't be a best seller...but more people than you think will scoop it up.  Intel was very surprised by how many 6950x they sold at $1700+.

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Sexy beast. If I had 2 grand to plop down I’d buy it just to make my e-penis grow a foot.

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wow look at it fukin go. Didn't even leave enough time for cinebench to heat the chip up.

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Is anyone keeping in mind that CineBench is only indicative of the actual performance in Cinema 4D, the 3D modeling, animating, and rendering software Maxon developed?

 

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Not bad, but I will wait for 32 core Threadriper 2 for 1k$ 

I highly doubt that AMD would want to (or be able to) release a Zen 2 32-core Threadripper CPU, let alone the current Zen 1 architecture, especially at the USD $999 price point, simply because the motherboards with their VRMs are not going to be able to withstand the amount of heat that's needed to dissipate it all at once. Plus those 8-pin EPS 12V connectors are limited to how much power and current can go through it before you face a serious fire hazard by going out of spec. Plus it will cut into AMD's server market, even if you neuter server features like 8-channel memory, 128 total PCIe lanes, and 2S support; the core count alone is plenty enough for people to go after this hypothetical 32-core Threadripper CPU over the Epyc 7601 CPU.

 

As good as something like the Asus Zenith Extreme's VRM's are, eight phases isn't going to cut it if those 32-core parts are operating at more than 3.4 GHz base, and turbos up to 4.0 GHz. Those CPUs are going to have to run much slower to keep thermals and power consumption in check.

 

If a 32-core part were to be released and it does work and perform remarkably well, I would be surprised that I was wrong. But it'd cost you USD $1,999 to go up against this i9-7980XE. Could someone please refresh me on what the Ryzen Threadripper 1950X at sock benches at in CineBench, the i9-7980XE in the video I briefly checked out benches in at over 4,000 CB points.

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Could someone please refresh me on what the Ryzen Threadripper 1950X at sock benches at in CineBench, the i9-7980XE in the video I briefly checked out benches in at over 4,000 CB points.

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I highly doubt that AMD would want to (or be able to) release a Zen 2 32-core Threadripper CPU, let alone the current Zen 1 architecture, especially at the USD $999 price point, simply because the motherboards with their VRMs are not going to be able to withstand the amount of heat that's needed to dissipate it all at once. Plus those 8-pin EPS 12V connectors are limited to how much power and current can go through it before you face a serious fire hazard by going out of spec.

There's nothing really stopping them from doing it, EPYC is the very same architecture.

 

The EPYC 7601 is 32 cores 2.2Ghz/3.2Ghz 180W TDP. The new Skylake-SP CPUs have been benched pulling around the 300W mark per CPU. The VRM issue really isn't that big, with the proper number of phases they don't get hot. I did a write up about that a little while ago but long story short the more current per phase you pull the less efficient they get so the heat output increases, adding phases fixes that. It's a non issue.

 

Sure they won't do a 32 core TR now at $999 but TR2 could as long as the production cost is low enough of course. Also some boards already have dual EPS connectors.

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There's nothing really stopping them from doing it, EPYC is the very same architecture.

 

The EPYC 7601 is 32 cores 2.2Ghz/3.2Ghz 180W TDP. The new Skylake-SP CPUs have been benched pulling around the 300W mark per CPU. The VRM issue really isn't that big, with the proper number of phases they don't get hot. I did a write up about that a little while ago but long story short the more current per phase you pull the less efficient they get so the heat output increases, adding phases fixes that. It's a non issue.

 

Sure they won't do a 32 core TR now at $999 but TR2 could as long as the production cost is low enough of course. Also some boards already have dual EPS connectors.

Did you see the part where I specifically quoted "32-core parts operating at more than 3.4 GHz base, and turbos up to 4.0 GHz". I knew that it is possible if they ran the CPU at a lower frequency and voltage so that way there wouldn't be any issues with power and heat.

 

I looked up the EPS 12V spec for the maximum power and current is at 28 amps at 336 watts for the whole connector. Still pretty damn high if you ask me, which would otherwise motivate me to use the extra 4-pin or that extra 8-pin EPS 12V connector to alleviate the load on the primary connector. I can pull an absolute max of 40 amps on one 8-pin EPS 12V connector on my current system, and that was when I was pumping 1.3 volts into the CPU, running it at 4.5 GHz. Ouch.

 

I've seen Buildzoid do board analyses before. I still though even though there's eight high quality phases, the heat that would be generated by a 32-core part running stock at 3.2 GHz base and turbos to around 3.6 GHz would be totally nuts, let alone obnoxiously high TDP ratings on the CPUs, if a 220-watt FX-9590 is anything to go by.

 

And by the time TR2 comes about, Epyc 2 could have twice as many cores as it has right now per CPU. So maybe we would see a 32-core desktop CPU by then. But I still doubt the USD $999 price point; double that and we maybe be able to see one, if enough i9-7980XE's sold, if their USD $1,723-1,749 i7-6950X was anything to go by in terms of sales and profit margins (because when you think about it, for both Intel and AMD specifically, the profit really lies in the server market because they can price their server CPUs as high as they want, and a lot of businesses would write those off as business expenses).

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29 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

~2950cb-3050cb

By averaging those two to get ~3,000 CB, and using my original 4,000 CB figure, that makes this i9-7980XE ~25% faster than the Threadripper 1950X, for a 100% price increase.

 

So Intel is asking for USD $1,999 for 25% better overall performance compared to the Ryzen Threadripper 1950X at USD $999. That seals the deal for me right there.

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So Intel is asking for USD $1,999 for 25% better overall performance compared to the Ryzen Threadripper 1950X at USD $999. That seals the deal for me right there.

Oh how I wished the top end of performance scaled with price anywhere but in Rainbow Land.  If it did I would have a 8-second car, sub .5 MOA rifle, and a 100" 4k TV.  I mean 100" 4k TVs only cost twice as much as those sub $400 50" ones right?

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32 minutes ago, JurunceNK said:

Did you see the part where I specifically quoted "32-core parts operating at more than 3.4 GHz base, and turbos up to 4.0 GHz". I knew that it is possible if they ran the CPU at a lower frequency and voltage so that way there wouldn't be any issues with power and heat.

 

I looked up the EPS 12V spec for the maximum power and current is at 28 amps at 336 watts for the whole connector. Still pretty damn high if you ask me, which would otherwise motivate me to use the extra 4-pin or that extra 8-pin EPS 12V connector to alleviate the load on the primary connector. I can pull an absolute max of 40 amps on one 8-pin EPS 12V connector on my current system, and that was when I was pumping 1.3 volts into the CPU, running it at 4.5 GHz. Ouch.

True but a board designed for it would have dual EPS, like some X299 already, and have more than 8 phases. I don't think it's going to happen without fab improvement to drop the power draw though, sometimes being possible doesn't make it a good idea :)

 

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32 minutes ago, JurunceNK said:

I've seen Buildzoid do board analyses before. I still though even though there's eight high quality phases, the heat that would be generated by a 32-core part running stock at 3.2 GHz base and turbos to around 3.6 GHz would be totally nuts, let alone obnoxiously high TDP ratings on the CPUs, if a 220-watt FX-9590 is anything to go by.

VRMs only ever get hot if there is not enough phases, how much power the CPU is using isn't a indicator of VRM heat. I wouldn't take a one time occurrence, X299 launch, and make it out to be more than what it is.

 

Quality of VRMs has nothing to do with heat generated, much snake oil in the gaming motherboard world. All MOSFETs used on motherboards are almost identical in efficiency characteristics therefore heat output at the same current, any differences are tiny. There is more to CPU power delivery than the MOSFETs but for what we are specifically talking about that is the component of interest. This is an instance where more is always better.

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True but a board designed for it would have dual EPS, like some X299 already, and have more than 8 phases. I don't think it's going to happen without fab improvement to drop the power draw though, sometimes being possible doesn't make it a good idea :)

Which is exactly what I think AMD is thinking "It's possible that we can release a 32-core Threadripper CPU right now, but is it really a good idea?".

 

The ROG Zenith Extreme has dual 8-pin EPS 12V connectors, while AMD reference spec as far as I can tell with most boards is an 8-pin EPS 12V and a 4-pin ATX 12V CPU connector. That right there is impressive _omgomg__by_nillemotes.gif

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This isn't the first leak with the 7980XE showing better than 100% scaling against the 7900X in Cinebench R15 when the 7980XE should clock lower in the test.

 

We'll see soon enough, but I don't think everyone is consistently faking it in the same range. Which strikes me that these repurposed Xeons have something else going for them beyond the 10c & below Skylake-X CPUs.

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