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What is so wrong about getting your PC money from parents?

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3 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

Well, I didn't personally have any issue with it, until he mentioned that his parents had to sell their cars and their oven to afford it.

 

I think the fact that his parents are making irrational and irresponsible financial sacrifices to afford an extremely high end luxury PC, is the big problem here.

Wait who told you they had to sell them? They never had their own cars and the oven we have is from 1997

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8 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Plus its pascal so the custom loop is super unnecessary.  A 280mm AIO on the CPU and a case with decent airflow would have the same result

Ehhh maybe. The heat density is only going up when you shrink dye size but custom loop is 100% not worth it. Also he has 2 PCs and another side note. He has a 1800X in a $6K PC! AHAH Atleast get a 6950X if you have $6K and a custom loop.

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1 hour ago, XCalinX said:

Sadly they did do that. They sacrificed an oven and they don't even have their own cars. The cars they drive are given to them from work, my dad can go wherever he wants with it but my mother has to get permission if she wants to leave the city with it.

But at the same time, I don't have anything fancy that's not related to my computer. For example, my phone is an old 4S my dad bought in 2013.

Also most people of my age seem to be more interested in other stuff. For example their parents probably spent 700$ on a phone.

 

2 minutes ago, XCalinX said:

Wait who told you they had to sell them? They never had their own cars and the oven we have is from 1997

You did - you at least implied they did anyway.

 

Granted, I assumed about the cars - my apologies.

 

But if  "they sacrificed an oven" doesn't mean they sold the oven, then what does that mean?

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Ehhh maybe. The heat density is only going up when you shrink dye size but custom loop is 100% not worth it. Also he has 2 PCs and another side note. He has a 1800X in a $6K PC! AHAH Atleast get a 6950X if you have $6K and a custom loop.

I would agree if you're gonna spend that much on a PC, you might as well get better hardware.

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1 minute ago, XCalinX said:

Wait who told you they had to sell them? They never had their own cars and the oven we have is from 1997

Dude, it still applies.  You already had a PC better than like 95% of the rest of the world, your "secondary rig" why not use that one or upgrade it slowly with say, a new gpu every generation.  You need those 2 PC's way less than your parents could use cars, vacation or a rainy day account.

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1 minute ago, dalekphalm said:

 

You did - you at least implied they did anyway.

 

Granted, I assumed about the cars - my apologies.

 

But if  "they sacrificed an oven" doesn't mean they sold the oven, then what does that mean?

It means they wanted to buy one but they ended up giving the money to me 

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1 minute ago, XCalinX said:

It means they wanted to buy one but they ended up giving the money to me 

So please tell me why you need 2 PC's?

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People get mad because they think you are depriving your parents of things by having a good computer, let alone a very over-powered computer.  .If you begged your parents for the computer then that's one thing and you're a dick.  But if your parents freely gave up things because they wanted you to have a good computer then it's their choice.  

 

While I understand why people would get angry, in the end you shouldn't care and just tell people to mind their own business.  I don't agree with letting your parents dish out a whole lotta money for your rig but it's not my business. 

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16 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

While I agree in Canada, you have to remember that a lot of places around the world don't offer contract subsidized phones. I cannot say about Romania specifically, but you can't just assume that's the case there.

They probably do, I'd be surprised if they didn't. Mobile is bigger in developing countries than developed ones.

 

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Conversely, 8000$ CAD is a boatload even on credit. They probably refinanced their fracking mortgage or something. o.O

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Damascus said:

So please tell me why you need 2 PC's?

I wanted to have something as a back up in case something breaks in my main one but I will give the secondary one to my grandparents. They are gonna get an internet connection soon so I will give it to them so that they can talk on Skype to their son/my uncle who lives in France

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Just now, XCalinX said:

I wanted to have something as a back up in case something breaks in my main one but I will give the secondary one to my grandparents. They are gonna get an internet connection soon so I will give it to them so that they can talk on Skype to their son/my uncle who lives in France

Your grandparents will get the same mileage out of a $500 computer as the $2300 PC you will give them...  The reason people dislike what you are doing is that it is selfish.

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jesus fucking christ

 

my first PC, half paid for by me, was 900 USD, including monitor and peripherals

 

the one in my sig is the improvement of that, 100% of the upgrades were purchased by me, minus half the cost of the GTX 1080 (super thankful for that).

 

but honestly, I don't give a fuck where you spend YOUR money, but it seems to me that you begged and groveled to your PARENTS for a 5800 dollar PC, which, I'm sorry, is utterly excessive. Honestly, could you not think of a single better thing to spend money on? It's frivolous, but understandable if this was your money. Unfortunately, it isn't, which really makes me wonder how dense you are to beg your parents for a 5800 dollar PC when it seems as if the money could have been better spent on things that THEY need instead.

 

I recently acquired a 2015 Razer Blade, purchased by my parents for my use. I didn't beg or grovel, but instead, produced logical arguments towards the purchase, citing a spreadsheet I created with specs, pros, and cons of each machine, also taking the time to find the best used deal and negotiating the price myself. Even offered to pay half the price, but, in the end, they waived it (thanks so much!). 

 

Groveling and begging will get you nowhere in life, but an informed argument for a reasonable goal will at least teach you something about the importance of a good argument to acquire what you want. 

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16? At 16 I was working. Beyond the age of 16, my parents would get me anything I needed for school and that was it. I had a car and drove ~20 mins to school every day, but I paid for gas and everything because there was a free bus. They bought me a laptop, because I did actually need a computer for doing school work, but it was a base model MacBook Pro, which I chipped in $750NZD (1/2) for because a Windows laptop would have been cheaper.


I think that your parents are right to help you out, maybe for a birthday or whatever, but I would never expect my parents to pay near $6000 (even in NZD) towards a gaming PC that's just for fun, I'd refuse the money because I know their money situation (earn lots, but have 2 kids in uni, supporting grandparents, moved recently etc). 

 

Basically, when I was 16, if I wanted something that wasn't school related, it was on me to get. I had my first job when I was 14, and I've been working since. Obviously it's all relative to your parents' income, if they earn 400k+ then $6k is nothing but I will always respect someone more if they earn their own money. I won't be impressed with your shiny PC/car/watch or whatever if your parents just bought it for you, I'll be impressed if you worked for it.

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1 minute ago, shadowbyte said:

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Pretty much the  same here.  I spent a grand total of 1300 CAD (about 1000 USD) on my PC and bought almost everything second hand saving about $1000 doing so.  saavy, not blunt money hucking

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1 minute ago, Damascus said:

Pretty much the  same here.  I spent a grand total of 1300 CAD (about 1000 USD) on my PC and bought almost everything second hand saving about $1000 doing so.  saavy, not blunt money hucking

yep, that's the way to go

used parts, trading, and open box deals made my X99 build actually attainable

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The problem here is that if you don't have enough money, you are spending $5800 on something that's simply a desire, and not a requirement. Most of that money was probably spent on water cooling when you could've stayed with air, and used more "in the middle" hardware that may have broken $1200 for everything. Because the money came from parents that are potentially living paycheck-to-paycheck, you are also potentially putting them in a financially poor state over again, something that is just a desire, not a requirement. You could've saved money by delivering newspaper and mowing people's lawns, and maybe have more pride in your PC.

 

With that being said, your parents worked hard for that money I'm sure, and you better be damn well appreciative of the sacrifices they made. 

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Just now, shadowbyte said:

yep, that's the way to go

used parts, trading, and open box deals made my X99 build actually attainable

Yup, I was actually painfully close to a 6800k build myself.  I was a bit of a N00B and nearly bought an X99 mobo for $150 but realized it wouldn't work with a 6700k so I didn't buy.  then a 6800k went second hand for 350 CAD and I already had a 6700k system :/ the more I learn...

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Just now, Damascus said:

Yup, I was actually painfully close to a 6800k build myself.  I was a bit of a N00B and nearly bought an X99 mobo for $150 but realized it wouldn't work with a 6700k so I didn't buy.  then a 6800k went second hand for 350 CAD and I already had a 6700k system :/ the more I learn...

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the single core on the 6700k is better though, and faster in games than a 5820k/6800k

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1 hour ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Because the money came from parents that are potentially living paycheck-to-paycheck, you are also potentially putting them in a financially poor state over again, something that is just a desire, not a requirement.

Absolutely, OP has zero clue on this other wise this thread would not exist.

@XCalinX - the money is your parents not yours spend like the wind, go find a job and get some sense worked into you on this. Money is not a frivolous thing to earn or spend on things like this or other crap. The builds I have listed in my signature have taken time and a budget to work out I don't just pull that money from my rear-end to spend or neither do I put it on credit hoping to pay it off. :| 

There is no way such an expensive build is needed by someone as young as yourself, have you even been able to justify such a build? Be honest about it - not to me but yourself.

 

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2 hours ago, XCalinX said:

I don't understand why people react like this, it's my parents money, not their money and they are free to do whatever they want with them.

I had to go back and re-read the op and decided to add this;

Yes of course it is your parents money but think of the position you put them in, imo you need to go get a job and either a) pay them back no less than half the money but me think 2/3 of the total b) help pay off the pc if they had to put it on credit, that interest is a killer at that amount. The expense was completely and wholeheartedly unnecessary for the needs that you have, a $500-$800 (USD) machine would have met your needs. When building anything above that price point you either have a legit use for it or built for bragging rights. My main system cost me $1200 and it was built with a specific use case in mind, I could have spent less but I use 3 screens for the soul purpose it makes my work flow better so I could have saved $250 by skipping out on 2 screens. I also paid for the whole thing on my own after budgeting it out from other expenses (I have a wife, 5 kids, a house and van to pay for, not to mention feeding them). The other builds I have planned "My Folding Rig Idea" I have in my signature is for both a $4k and $9k builds but those have taken almost 1.5 years to plan on and I still have not fully budgeted the cost as of yet (well I have but just the basics) and those will take time to accumulate, these are not necessary builds but projects I have in mind I want to do. Not to mention the cost of electricity to keep them running. Did you think to consider the cost your parents are having to pay for just on the electrical requirement of such a build? I would hazard a 6k build is gonna pull quite the load from the wall 600-1200 watts?

 

The reason people are hating on you is for this reason; you tout (intentionally or not) the build about and you live in a low income area and you were able to convince your obviously gullible parents into spending that kind of money on a luxury that was not needed and will go obsolete before you can actually use it for its design (and by the way you are being either very naive or facetious about this whole thing). People will also hate on you for the very obvious reason that you don't seem to be able to grasp ... this post is one of them. You brag. You may not see it but that is exactly what you did by making this post, its worded that way whether you think so or not.

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Having not read the thread, I can say for sure that if you don't go telling everyone about the computer you got, you won't get shit for it. Enjoy it for what it is and don't brag about it. Bragging is seen as a bad thing in most societies and with good reason: no one likes to be reminded that they don't have everything they want / are everything they wanna be.

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1 hour ago, KuJoe said:

I think the problem people have with it is the fact that you feel the need to announce it. Your post didn't need the price of the system for you to get your point across, you chose to put the price in the first sentence of the post which is probably what people don't like. It's like people who tell me how much they paid for a car when they buy it for the sticker price, unless you got an amazing deal on it the only reason to mention the price is to make the statement as much about how much money you have as it is the item you're talking about.

 

Try to be more humble and people won't have a problem with you. ;)

I agree. I go to a private school where 3/4 of the school attend off scholarships provided by 1/4 of the school. And that 1/4 is mostly rich asian families that send their kids to the US to study. That also means that you have 1/2 of the school whose parents drive 1990s cars and the 1/8 where a 17 year old has a Ferrari and drives a bugati to school (I'm not exaggerating). Regularly one of them will walk into class with a fancy jacket and someone will ask how much it costs. Calmly he/she will say "Only $6000".(also not exaggerating). So yeah, I know all about that. 

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Please @XCalinX post a pic of the rig with a piece of paper with your username written on it, Lets end the debate if you are a troll or not. 

 

Lets move forward assuming you are not trolling, the more I read this thread the more I thought you are just a terrible person,

 

My parents bought me my first PC when i was 12 (Pentium 2, SIS Colormax 8mb GPU) and I did jobs on weekends for my grandparents and parents till i could afford a Geforce 2. I knew my family was not doing well financially so i didn't ask them for it as IT IS A LUXURY!! You even admit you are aware of your family's situation, the fact you even had the nerve to ask for a pc like that is what makes you Disgusting! Truly you already had a rig, a more decent rig than a large part of this forum where they game and have a great time but that's not enough for you, You wanted something you could brag about no matter the effects on your parents. The more I read this the more I find you a perfect example of a spoilt brat, the fact you are not even aware of it shows how large that silver spoon is. 

I can see why "Friends" say those things about you, this whole post seems like a big show off and I noticed you posting similar stuff in another topic but now you went and made your own one so we can focus on you and your Stupidly over powered build. 

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24 minutes ago, Fooshi said:

$5800 rig in a country where the average monthly wage $500~?

 

Nothing screams financial irresponsibility than this.

I did the math using all the official averages

 

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