Part Suggestion For A New Build

[AliAhmedKhurram]

Budget (including currency): 720000 PKR (Roughly 2500$ USD)

Country: Pakistan

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: VFX/3D Animation work, Programs like Nuke, Houdini, Blender, Unreal, Premiere, After Effects, Davinci Resolve, etc.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

I currently have a computer that has an i3-2100 and a Nvidia GT 210, and a single stick of 4GB RAM 1333Mhz. I don't know the timing of the RAM Stick, and a 512 GB HDD. I believe I should not be able to use any of these components in my upgrade. Hence I'll need to buy pretty much everything, other than a mouse, keyboard, speakers and a pair of headphones. I am upgrading because my current machine can't keep up with my work in the VFX industry, I keep getting work but I can't work due my machine's specs, I do not plan to game on my PC. I'll be receiving a bonus from work, in late July. I plan on buying my machine then. I would like to have a dual screen setup, preferably a 2k monitor, at 75hz. in my line of work I require quite a lot of RAM, I can easily fill up 64GB of RAM, hence I'd like to have atleast 128GB's, speed is not a huge concern, DDR4 works fine for me. I require a powerful CPU with many cores at a decent speed. I'm conflicted between the 13900K and the 7950x. I have good experience with the 13900K, but I hear that the 7950x is a much better candidate, I hope you guys can help me choose. The Graphics card needs to have atleast 12 GB's of VRAM, and has to be from Nvidia, I am thinking about the 4070ti, but if there are better option do let me know. I would like to have a fast SSD NVME boot drive around 512GB's, and a 8TB SSD for projects and another 8-16TB HDD for backups. I dont care for any type of case, i just want it to keep my machine cool. Whether there is RGB or not, it doesnt matter. I just want my machine to be practical.

 

Thank you for reading through this.

I'd love to hear your suggestion for my parts and whether I should go team red or blue.

 

[podkall]

@filpo you wanna split the work on this build?

[podkall]

10 minutes ago, AliAhmedKhurram said:

I would like to have a dual screen setup, preferably a 2k monitor, at 75hz.

Is buying screens part of the budget?

 

 

[AliAhmedKhurram]

Just now, podkall said:

Is buying screens part of the budget?

 

 

Yes.

[filpo]

@AliAhmedKhurram any retailers you can buy from? 

For your use case something like this in your currency and country will work well

7950X is definitely a better cpu than the 13900k at productivity

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 4.5 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($471.87 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($116.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *Gigabyte X670 GAMING X AX V2 ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($204.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL40 Memory  ($445.90 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($64.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($233.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 8 TB 3.5" 5400 RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus ProArt GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  ($699.70 @ Amazon) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.90 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2598.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 13:55 EDT-0400

 

4070 Ti SUPER with 16gb of vram would be better value

6 minutes ago, podkall said:

@filpo you wanna split the work on this build?

How would that work? lol

Just now, AliAhmedKhurram said:

Yes.

Any specific websites you will buy from?

[podkall]

3 minutes ago, filpo said:

How would that work? lol

I donno, u find X party I find Y parts and we split the budget somehow, but I guess it would be more complicated then both working on single suggestion

[podkall]

5 minutes ago, filpo said:

@AliAhmedKhurram any retailers you can buy from? 

For your use case something like this in your currency and country will work well

7950X is definitely a better cpu than the 13900k at productivity

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 4.5 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($471.87 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($116.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *Gigabyte X670 GAMING X AX V2 ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($204.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL40 Memory  ($445.90 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($64.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($233.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 8 TB 3.5" 5400 RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus ProArt GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  ($699.70 @ Amazon) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.90 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2598.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 13:55 EDT-0400

Yeah I started building 13900 build, and it would go for even more, AMD might be for CPU here.

[AliAhmedKhurram]

3 minutes ago, filpo said:

@AliAhmedKhurram any retailers you can buy from?

Any specific websites you will buy from?

I dont have official AMD stores in my country, but there are local stores that hand out guarantees despite this. I plan on buying mostly locally, the prices are pretty much the same as you find on amazon.

[podkall]

8 minutes ago, filpo said:

Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL40 Memory  ($445.90 @ Amazon) 

wouldn't it be cheaper to buy 2 identical 2x32GB kits?

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, AliAhmedKhurram said:

the prices are pretty much the same as you find on amazon.

then you aren't gonna realistically get a 7950x, 4070 ti, 128gb of ddr5, 1tb of fast ssd storage 4tb of ssd storage 8tb of HDD storage AND monitors included in $2500 USD

 

1 minute ago, podkall said:

wouldn't it be cheaper to buy 2 identical 2x32GB kits?

Yes it would, by about $30. So yes that could work, except it'd be a bit problematic to run higher than 6000mhz with 128gb of ram because of the sheer amount of it especially for am5

[podkall]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

then you aren't gonna realistically get a 7950x, 4070 ti, 128gb of ddr5, 1tb of fast ssd storage 4tb of ssd storage 8tb of HDD storage AND monitors included in $2500 USD

 

Yes it would, by about $30. So yes that could work, except it'd be a bit problematic to run higher than 6000mhz with 128gb of ram because of the sheer amount of it especially for am5

yeah that's why the price could be cut by getting slower kits if we're not hopeful for 6000Mhz, it's a lot of ram anyways

 

I have a list, but it's bit cut on storage since it's expensive, and it's like 250$ over budget, though I could see some possible cuts if it won't hurt:

• I also don't know how good those monitors are, they're just second cheapest 1440p 75Hz+ monitors I found

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 4.5 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($471.87 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($116.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X670 GAMING X AX V2 ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($204.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Patriot Viper Venom 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory  ($164.99 @ B&H)
Memory: *Patriot Viper Venom 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory  ($164.99 @ B&H)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($233.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Seagate Barracuda Compute 8 TB 3.5" 5400 RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($121.42 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *Asus ProArt GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  ($699.70 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Pop XL Air ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: ADATA XPG Core Reactor II 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: KOORUI 27E1QA 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($151.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: KOORUI 27E1QA 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($151.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2777.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 14:10 EDT-0400

 

 

[AliAhmedKhurram]

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

then you aren't gonna realistically get a 7950x, 4070 ti, 128gb of ddr5, 1tb of fast ssd storage 4tb of ssd storage 8tb of HDD storage AND monitors included in $2500 USD

I plan on looking on the used market as well, for deals that I can find, I'd like to buy new hardware, but if I won't be able to i'll opt for a used case and used screens, then I'm sure I'll be able to find something, I'm just trying for new hardware first.

[AliAhmedKhurram]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 4.5 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($471.87 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($116.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X670 GAMING X AX V2 ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($204.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Patriot Viper Venom 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory  ($164.99 @ B&H)
Memory: *Patriot Viper Venom 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory  ($164.99 @ B&H)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($233.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Seagate Barracuda Compute 8 TB 3.5" 5400 RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($121.42 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *Asus ProArt GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  ($699.70 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Pop XL Air ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: ADATA XPG Core Reactor II 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: KOORUI 27E1QA 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($151.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: KOORUI 27E1QA 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($151.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2777.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 14:10 EDT-0400

 

I think this should work, it looks like what i wanted. I can hold off on one monitor for the time being if that will help my budget and save some money on a used case. I think that way I can bring it down to 2500,

[AliAhmedKhurram]

4 minutes ago, podkall said:

yeah that's why the price could be cut by getting slower kits if we're not hopeful for 6000Mhz, it's a lot of ram anyways

 

 

I dont aim for 6000, slower ram works for my use case.

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, AliAhmedKhurram said:

I think this should work, it looks like what i wanted. I can hold off on one monitor for the time being if that will help my budget and save some money on a used case. I think that way I can bring it down to 2500,

of course,

 

1 minute ago, AliAhmedKhurram said:

I dont aim for 6000, slower ram works for my use case.

yeah I understand, but faster RAM does help with CPU related programs, and does contribute to performance and speed the work is done,

 

DDR5 sticks have high processing speed, but they have bit higher latency if you compare it to DDR4, the overall CL/Mhz is what determines the theoretical latency,

 

the 4 sticks might not even be able to run at 5600Mhz, which can already feel bit slower than one of the standard DDR4 speeds, not by much of course but you have to take that it's gonna be even less than 5600Mhz, maybe:

 

[Agall]

Just now, podkall said:

of course,

 

yeah I understand, but faster RAM does help with CPU related programs, and does contribute to performance and speed the work is done,

 

DDR5 sticks have high processing speed, but they have bit higher latency if you compare it to DDR4, the overall CL/Mhz is what determines the theoretical latency,

 

the 4 sticks might not even be able to run at 5600Mhz, which can already feel bit slower than one of the standard DDR4 speeds, not by much of course but you have to take that it's gonna be even less than 5600Mhz, maybe:

 

DDR5 does have a slight advantage with a minor form of on-die ECC. No where near proper ECC, but better than not.

[Why_Me]

Add monitors to this build.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($344.98 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A720 BLACK 98.6 CFM CPU Cooler  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($181.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Storage: *Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($134.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($779.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($9.19 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1901.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 14:23 EDT-0400

[podkall]

1 minute ago, Agall said:

DDR5 does have a slight advantage with a minor form of on-die ECC. No where near proper ECC, but better than not.

of course, the DDR5's processing speed being almost twice as fast in some cases than DDR4 actually helps in creative workloads regardless of latency,

 

while latency is more felt in gaming, there's a chance it might slightly be felt in tasks that require snappy response, like video-editing, but again probably not as much to try to make faster speeds work at all costs,

[podkall]

Just now, Why_Me said:

Add monitors to this build.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($344.98 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A720 BLACK 98.6 CFM CPU Cooler  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($181.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Storage: *Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($134.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($779.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($9.19 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1901.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 14:23 EDT-0400

+64GB of DDR4 RAM

[podkall]

1 minute ago, Why_Me said:

Storage: *Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($134.99 @ Amazon)

+1TB Boot drive +8TB HDD backup drive + change 2TB to 4TB

[AliAhmedKhurram]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

while latency is more felt in gaming

 yes latency is not felt as much in production work loads

[podkall]

10 minutes ago, AliAhmedKhurram said:

I think this should work, it looks like what i wanted. I can hold off on one monitor for the time being if that will help my budget and save some money on a used case. I think that way I can bring it down to 2500,

by the way, if you want snappy responsive SSDs for your 4TB project SSD, look for any of these bad boys: (4TB versions, these are 2TB)

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($169.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($192.32 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro w/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($183.55 @ Amazon)
Storage: Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($138.53 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X w/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus W/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($174.05 @ MemoryC)
Storage: Kingston KC3000 2.048 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($162.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1606.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 14:26 EDT-0400

[AliAhmedKhurram]

Just now, podkall said:

look for any of these bad boys: (4TB versions, these are 2TB)

will do

[AliAhmedKhurram]

3 minutes ago, podkall said:

 

I thank you for taking the time out for my Questions, I believe i have my answers, I shall be closing my questions as answered.

 

Take care.
Have a wonderful day.

[podkall]

Since @filpo is back, I can ask him many questions about potentially cutting price,

 

what about B650 chipset motherboard? I thought they had overbuilt VRMs.

 

Also is slow DDR5 RAM, just not tuned from factory and could potentially clock faster given chance? (perhaps be even more stable due to possibly slower JEDEC speeds?)