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XCalinX
On 01/05/2017 at 10:47 PM, XCalinX said:

Also why aren't people pissed at people like Linus, Jay, Paul etc? They got their parts 100% free and no one spent money on them...

Wow. How could you say that? Linus and the others had prior jobs. While working they did YouTube as a "hobby". Linus was working with NCIX and they let him record his videos and the products. As their channel grew bigger they left their jobs. With Linus, he has a company and employees which he pays, there is no such this as "for free". I guarantee it that they keep the products for short amount of time before returning it. 

18 hours ago, XCalinX said:

I am not trolling, why would I? Like would it make me happier?

And I'm not worried about my future. One of my dad's friends owns a PC company in my city and I'm pretty sure he will hire me when I turn 18, he will come to see my rig when he has time so I'm pretty sure he will want to hire me when he sees it.

 

So you're certain that you're going to get the job huh? Let's say for example, the company went broke and it failed. Now there is no job. What are you going to do? Seriously, you're still young. Go and look for part-time job and pay back your parents. And I'm not joking. 

On 01/05/2017 at 10:55 PM, SamStrecker said:

Idiotic. If you were making substantial money with it for a job then I would say it's fine. But that money could have easily been used for education, food, or medical. I mean are you really getting $6k worth of fun from video games? Honestly the same fun can be had on a $900 PC. 

Exactly! My PC was around £500 which is around $650. The only thing that I got for free was the GPU. I've never had any issues with it and it's working just fine for me. 

 

 

 

What pisses me off is that all these kids are getting everything and not working for it. I say "kids" although I'm 24...

 

If you want something in life, work for it, nothing is for free. 

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7 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Why did your parents buy a $5800 USD PC if they are in the middle class?

 

You should have spent like $1000 USD on a PC tops......

He has 2 PCs, One Ryzen 1800X watercooled PC and another Intel 6700K....

 

He said it's a "backup"

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Just now, Abdul201588 said:

He has 2 PCs, One Ryzen 1800X watercooled PC and another Intel 6700K....

what the actual f*ck........

 

jesus..........

Just now, Abdul201588 said:

He said it's a "backup"

More like backing his porn stash. There's is literally zero reason to have a "Backup" PC like that.

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12 minutes ago, Abdul201588 said:

He has 2 PCs, One Ryzen 1800X watercooled PC and another Intel 6700K....

 

He said it's a "backup"

Did he spend the money on both at the same time or what?

 

If he spent the $5800 on the Ryzen Build after getting the i7 build then that's just fucking stupid.

 

This kid is immature, selfish and lacks the maturity for a $2000 USD build let alone a $5800 USD setup.........

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Just now, AluminiumTech said:

Did he spend the money on both at the same time or what?

 

If he spent the $5800 on the Ryze Build after getting the i7 build then that's just fucking stupid.

 

This kid is immature, selfish and lacks the maturity for a $2000 USD build let alone a $5800 USD setup.........

 

 

Oh No, You're not going to like this. His parents had to sell one of the cars in order for him build the $5800 PC. 

On 01/05/2017 at 9:35 PM, XCalinX said:

hen I explain that I just wanted this PC so bad and they happened to be friendly enough to give up on other things like cars so that I can afford it.

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1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

what the actual f*ck........

 

jesus..........

More like backing his porn stash. There's is literally zero reason to have a "Backup" PC like that.

I know right!? It's just petty and selfishness 

41 minutes ago, H0R53 said:

$5800 is about what all of the computer parts in my own store I took a loan out for are worth. I have 100s of components for laptops and desktops, monitors, cell phone parts etc.

 

$5800 is more money than you are probably old enough to economically appreciate and comprehend, kiddo. I'd sell that, build a less expensive rig and get an oven, lol.

 

I'm not surprised a lot of people hate you for your PC, because honestly it's extremely selfish to deprive your parents of the money they could be using to increase your overall QoL.

 

I'm not gonna sugarcoat this, cause you'll probably eat it if I do (damn, look at those fingers lol, you sure you don't have an oven?), it's extremely immature, selfish, and douchey to go around bragging about that shit. My PC NEW would have been at most $2000 and I built it from used parts for around $300.

I'm 21, own a store, and an apartment in the space above the store, and it cost me $6000 including the loan I took out for it. All of the parts that are in my store I paid for with three jobs myself.

 

For the cost of your dinky PC you could own a PC store.

 

Seriously, kid.

 

Grow a backbone.

I agree, He's still young. He still needs to face life and the challenges of life. It's not going to be easy. The reality is when our parents are gone, who will look after us? I know I went deep for a second. It's true. Life is not a game. I've had friends who are older than me by 3-5 years and 2 of them have struggled and had to go back and live with their parents. 

 

Btw, what do you sell in your store? :P

 

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Just now, Abdul201588 said:

 

 

Oh No, You're not going to like this. His parents had to sell one of the cars in order for him build the $5800 PC. 

oh for fucks sake.......

 

And i think I'm spoiled. Jesus fucking christ.  This guy makes me look like some damn humble person...........

 

idek anymore....

 

WTF is this kid trying to do? bankrupt his parents or what? he's so naive and has no idea what the hell the real world is like.

 

I find it difficult to spend money on things which cost over $100 USD. I just do. This kid would sell his own children if he was an adult to get a damn new PC.........

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5 minutes ago, Abdul201588 said:

I know right!? It's just petty and selfishness

This is the point when i start to wonder why the people he shows this to doesn't shame him publicly or show more aggression.

 

How did his parents even agree to this bullshit? did he literally bother them so much that they couldn't say no or what? And were they aware it was a 1/5 of their income?

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2 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

This is the point when i start to wonder why the people he shows this to doesn't shame him publicly or show more aggression.

 

How did his parents even agree to this bullshit? did he literally bother them so much that they couldn't say no or what? And where they aware it was a 1/5 of their income?

I'm angry at him. For what he's done and the price of the PC $5800?! I wouldn't be angry if he had the means to pay it back and give reason to why he wanted the PC  (which I doubt he would pay them back) Romania isn't the richest country by far. I'm guessing they don't know anything about hardware.. :/ If my I asked my dad he'd say no. He's been in the IT industry for 25 years now. 

5 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

oh for fucks sake.......

 

And i think I'm spoiled. Jesus fucking christ.  This guy makes me look like some damn humble person...........

 

idek anymore....

 

WTF is this kid trying to do? bankrupt his parents or what? he's so naive and has no idea what the hell the real world is like.

 

I find it difficult to spend money on things which cost over $100 USD. I just do. This kid would sell his own children if he was an adult to get a damn new PC.........

Exactly. My PC wasn't even that expensive. It was £500 or $650 USD. My dad paid for it and I paid back as soon as I had some money. When I asked my dad how much would he pay for a new PC he told me up to £1000. I kept it down because at that time I didn't need that much. Now I'm in need of a new CPU because of what I'm doing. 

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I really, really hope this is just a troll. But it seems like it isn't...

 

I've only skimmed this thread and gee... I wonder why people online hate you.

Could it be because:

1) You are bragging. The second sentence in your post is about how much your PC costs. Judging by this thread you didn't want to know why people think it's wrong. You seem to have created this thread so that you can brag about it some more.

2) You're extremely spoiled, and doesn't seem to realize it.

3) You're depraving your parents from things that are actually important, for useless things you just want for no reason.

4) Your build is really bad for the amount of money you spent on it. Like, it's impressive how much money you spend and only got those things.

5) You show a complete lack of respect for both your parents and money in general.

 

I felt bad when I bought my current computer that was a fraction of what you paid for yours. And I paid for that with my own money. Why? Because I thought that the computer I had was good enough, and that it was quite a lot of money for something that was just a "want", not a "need".

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55 minutes ago, Abdul201588 said:

His parents had to sell one of the cars in order for him build the $5800 PC.

No, they didn't. Maybe I explained it wrong in the first post but they never owned a car that belongs 100% to them. The cars they currently have are from work. The only car a member of my family that lives here owns is my grandfather who owns something from the 70s

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1 hour ago, Abdul201588 said:

I guarantee it that they keep the products for short amount of time before returning it.

That part isn't accurate. Amount of review samples they need to return or send to another reviewer is really, really small compared to all of them. Like 15%. They can't sell most of the review products, unless its like 3 years after the fact. So they do have huge warehouse space to store all those spares. Which they then use for different projects and office rigs.

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16 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

2) You're extremely spoiled, and doesn't seem to realize it.

+1

16 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

3) You're depraving

*depriving

16 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

your parents from things that are actually important, for useless things you just want for no reason.

4) Your build is really bad for the amount of money you spent on it. Like, it's impressive how much money you spend and only got those things.

^^

16 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

5) You show a complete lack of respect for both your parents and money in general.

 

16 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

I felt bad when I bought my current computer that was a fraction of what you paid for yours

So true.

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On 2017. 05. 01. at 10:35 PM, XCalinX said:

Hey guys,

I'm almost 16 and I have a 5800$ watercooled rig that I built myself. Most people seem to like it but some of them passionately hate me for one single reason: I got the money for it from my parents.

Initally, they think we're rich but we are not. We have an average income in one of the poorest countries in Europe: Romania. Then I explain that I just wanted this PC so bad and they happened to be friendly enough to give up on other things like cars so that I can afford it. Then the people I tell this to get super mad at me and start insulting the crap out of me and some of them even photoshopped pictures of me to make me look like I'm doing you know some dirty things.

I don't understand why people react like this, it's my parents money, not their money and they are free to do whatever they want with them. I don't judge others based on what they spend their money on (I used to when I was like 11), even though sometimes I really dislike the thing they spent the money on and it kinda pisses me off when I get judged that I bought my PC with my parents money. I'm pretty sure most of the things they had when they were 16 were bought with their parents money.

I just want to know why people think this is wrong, because after I tell them they go full retard instead of explaining why they don't like it.

Having a PC that expensive at that age will annoy some people since they can't get something like that.

i think it's completely understandable that most people are jealous. I sure would've been at that age.

I have never been in Romania but I've heard that people there really dislike Hungarians so since i have a chance to ask a Romanian about it i might as well

So what do people really if at all say about us Hungarians?

 

Also coming from a poor family i got annoyed as well when i was a kid and saw all those amazing PCs while i only had one that was really old and could barely run Team fortress 2.

Now that i have a job and got enough money to build my own i just look at all those high end PCs with amazement.

 

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I only don't like how you only got 500GB of SSD storage and 4TB of HDD storage. :P

Of course if you wanted to build a water cooled system then I don't blame you as those types of systems can easily reach $4000. 

You probably could have reduced the price a little by getting a cheaper CPU, to reduce the strain on your parents wallet, and IMO having 2 1440p monitors instead of 1 4k monitor would be better.

IMO you should have at least 1.5TB SSD storage (500GB for OS, 1TB for games) before even considering SLI. Storage is becoming more of a concern rather than just raw graphics power these days. Otherwise everything else seems pretty reasonable for an all out high end 4k gaming system.

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19 minutes ago, Amateur Gamer said:

So what do people really if at all say about us Hungarians?

Well my family and friends usually don't talk about that and I have nothing against Hungarians. My dad had an Hungarian friend a couple of years ago.

18 minutes ago, rattacko123 said:

I only don't like how you only got 500GB of SSD storage and 4TB of HDD storage. :P

Of course if you wanted to build a water cooled system then I don't blame you as those types of systems can easily reach $4000. 

You probably could have reduced the price a little by getting a cheaper CPU, to reduce the strain on your parents wallet, and IMO having 2 1440p monitors instead of 1 4k monitor would be better.

IMO you should have at least 1.5TB SSD storage (500GB for OS, 1TB for games) before even considering SLI. Storage is becoming more of a concern rather than just raw graphics power these days. Otherwise everything else seems pretty reasonable for an all out high end 4k gaming system.

Well I have about 200GB free on the 1TB drive, 30GB free on the OS drive, 60 on the other SSD, and the 3TB HDD is almost empty.

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5 minutes ago, XCalinX said:

Well I have about 200GB free on the 1TB drive, 30GB free on the OS drive, 60 on the other SSD, and the 3TB HDD is almost empty.

RIP parents wallet when you want to buy an SSD upgrade :(

30GB free aint much

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I would have never in a million years have my parents spend that kind of money on me, much less ask/bug them for it. The most expensive thing they bought for me was an xbox 360 for my high school graduation. I didn't even know they were buying that and would've definitely said no if they told me beforehand. Not only because I think that's too much but because even at 15, I already knew what my priorities were and an xbox 360 was not one of them. End result was I barely played the thing and throughout the summer I was constantly thinking that I wasted their money.

 

No wonder people are angry, you're a spoiled teenager who insists on his vices despite the financial sacrifices your parents have to make to provide for them.

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Yeah I echo a lot of the above, it would bother me, even when I was younger, that my folks had to give up things so I could frivolously spunk their money away. The effects of which are obvious as judging from your posts it seems you genuinely don't know the value of money.

 

Particularly being from the part of the world that you are in, I work with young guys in eastern Europe who live on not much more than that in a year.

 

So, in answer to your question, people aren't pissed off that you have a 5k PC, They are pissed off at your blasé attitude towards money.

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1 hour ago, rattacko123 said:

 

IMO you should have at least 1.5TB SSD storage (500GB for OS, 1TB for games) before even considering SLI. Storage is becoming more of a concern rather than just raw graphics power these days. Otherwise everything else seems pretty reasonable for an all out high end 4k gaming system.

Who the hell uses 500GB on their OS... I have a 120GB SSD for my OS with all the necessary apps installed on it and I still have 30GB left.

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13 minutes ago, Wano1997 said:

Who the hell uses 500GB on their OS... I have a 120GB SSD for my OS with all the necessary apps installed on it and I still have 30GB left.

I have 500GB and I have like 100GB left
EDIT: woah, idk what happened but I only have 15GB left (probably some cache thing, I think it should be about 45GB left excluding the cache) :(

 

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Just now, rattacko123 said:

I have 500GB and I have like 100GB left
EDIT: woah, idk what happened but I only have 15GB left (probably some cache thing, I think it should be about 45GB left excluding the cache) :(

 

100+ GB of cache? Yeah no, you can clean that and disable stuff like the pagefile. Try downloading windirstat because your OS does not need as much as you think it does.

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5 minutes ago, Wano1997 said:

100+ GB of cache? Yeah no, you can clean that and disable stuff like the pagefile. Try downloading windirstat because your OS does not need as much as you think it does.

In pretty much every OS install I always use up at least 250-300GB (increases bit by bit the more I download, probably the most I reach is around 400GB), for some reason I have used up a lot more than 400GB this install.
and the cache size would be roughly around 30-40GB
One easy way to fix would be to get a 1TB SSD :P 

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Apple knows how to make proper consumer-grade laptops (they don't know how to make pro laptops though). I guess this mostly software power efficiency related, but getting a mac makes perfect sense if you want a portable/powerful laptop that can do anything you want it to with great battery life.

 

 

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In pretty much every OS install I always use up at least 250-300GB (increases bit by bit the more I download, probably the most I reach is around 400GB), for some reason I have used up a lot more than 400GB this install.
and the cache size would be roughly around 30-40GB
One easy way to fix would be to get a 1TB SSD :P 

Oh please. I wish i could have a 250GB OS drive so i can finally stop letting VS kill my SSD :(.

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Just now, rattacko123 said:

In pretty much every OS install I always use up at least 250-300GB (increases bit by bit the more I download, probably the most I reach is around 400GB), for some reason I have used up a lot more than 400GB this install.
and the cache size would be roughly around 30-40GB
One easy way to fix would be to get a 1TB SSD :P 

Yeah I believe you, I just wonder what kind of irrelevant stuff you have on that drive then. A lot of options which take up a lot of space can be disabled too. The fact that I only use like 80-90GB says something, mind you I have all applications installed on it (besides my games)

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