Windows 11 - Here is everything you need to know - OUT NOW!!!

[jagdtigger]

So far my impression about this "OS":


Guess better stock up on xanax, family members will have a hard time accepting this and they are going to hit me even harder.....

[Mark Kaine]

I'm thinking of switching back to win 10 on my laptop,  but im not sure what happens when I disable tpm and secure boot and then switch back to 11 (i have 10 and 11 on 2 separate drives) do i have to enable tpm / secure boot every time i switch back to 11? What happens if i don't turn it on?

 

 

[Kilrah]

1 hour ago, Mark Kaine said:

I'm thinking of switching back to win 10 on my laptop,  but im not sure what happens when I disable tpm and secure boot and then switch back to 11 (i have 10 and 11 on 2 separate drives) do i have to enable tpm / secure boot every time i switch back to 11? What happens if i don't turn it on?

Why not leave them on for 10?

[Mark Kaine]

31 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Why not leave them on for 10?

Well I'm pretty sure its a performance penalty, especially since the cpu is not supported and stuff?

 

I mean i could just try it out (both ways) but I don't want to mess up my win 11 install, so it should still work without secure boot i think,  but im not sure about tpm?

 

[Kilrah]

They don't have performance penalties, no (well, other than the AMD issue that some are seeing currently but it's a bug and is going to be solved). Secure boot is as its name implies only doing things at boot time, TPM is just a component that's there for the OS to ask things from at very specific times like boot, login etc. 

 

[thefrecklepuny]

Using Win 11 as a clean install on my desktop. Got a new 1tb NVME SSD anyway so Windows was going to be a clean install anyway. My laptop on to other hand was suitable for Win 11 apart from the CPU!!! Used the beta for a few weeks on it anyhow and performance was okay. However, a few lockups were observed when displaying large photos. Went back to Win 10  which seems snappier and sharper to the eye. Is it me has Win 10 gained Win 11 style widgets or did i just not notice them before????

[NumLock21]

• In Windows 11, I've noticed under the App section there is a feature called Archive APPS and it's turned on by default. That thing basically uninstalls app that hasn't been used in a while and will try to reinstall, when you use it again. Problem is it will only reinstall if the app is still exist and available for download. I disabled that archive app feature.
• There was another section talking about where to install apps from and it gives the option of anywhere to Microsoft Store only. I assumed this was for app that's located inside the Microsoft store, where as if I go to the MS store to download a app, it's actually from them. or apps that's been checked or approved by Microsoft, and not some 3rd party malicious app that sneaked it's way in tricking users to think it's legit. After setting get app from Microsoft store only, none of setup installer works. Tried to update Nvidia drivers it says app is not from the MS store. Went back and set install apps from MS Store only  to Anywhere.
• When saving a image from the internet, during the saving part it will say the format of that picture say JPG, but once it's saved, the format of that picture turns from JPG to JFIF. I have no idea how do you even pronounce that lol, but it seems only JPG has this automatic extension change. Other image format stays the same so PNG will stay as PNG.
• When opening, maximizing, or windowing a open window it gives that popup in your face effect. I don't know if anyone notice that, but this effect goes back to the early Windows Me/2000 days, where is also has a similar effect when opening Windows.

 

[TetraSky]

10 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

When saving a image from the internet, during the saving part it will say the format of that picture say JPG, but once it's saved, the format of that picture turns from JPG to JFIF. I have no idea how do you even pronounce that lol, but it seems only JPG has this automatic extension change. Other image format stays the same so PNG will stay as PNG.

Tried replicating this. I could not. Both in Edge and Vivaldi, when saving a jpg, it would still be a jpg once saved.

 

I do appreciate learning about the app archive thing. What a dumb feature to have enabled by default...

[jagdtigger]

35 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

the format of that picture turns from JPG to JFIF.

Five sec google:

IDK whats the big idea, pretty dumb if you ask me....

[Donut417]

Looking at the system requirements. Microsoft states you can use an IR camera or finger print to log in to Windows or use it as a two factor system. Has anyone tried a Finger Print scanner? I love being able to log in to my Mac with my Finger Print and would love to have that on my Windows PC.

[NumLock21]

30 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

Tried replicating this. I could not. Both in Edge and Vivaldi, when saving a jpg, it would still be a jpg once saved.

 

I do appreciate learning about the app archive thing. What a dumb feature to have enabled by default...

I tried replicating again too and now it doesn't do it anymore.JPG saves as JPG. odd, oh well, at least it's fixed or something.

The archive app enabled by default is the dumbest feature, that along with force online account for those running Windows 11 Home.

 

7 minutes ago, jagdtigger said:

Five sec google:

IDK whats the big idea, pretty dumb if you ask me....

Saved JPG pictures now says as JPG and not JFIF, but I can still open JFIF files and resave as JPG, so it's not a big deal for me. I don't know why that person has to do a registry hack.

[NumLock21]

2 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

Looking at the system requirements. Microsoft states you can use an IR camera or finger print to log in to Windows or use it as a two factor system. Has anyone tried a Finger Print scanner? I love being able to log in to my Mac with my Finger Print and would love to have that on my Windows PC.

The IR camera is for signing in through Windows Hello, where it's similar to Apple Face ID. Finger print login, not that many uses that because most laptop these don't have a built in finger print reader, except for some premium/business line up. I think they have USB finger print scanners, but I've never tired them before. I do have a old laptop back in the Windows Vista days that has a built in finger print scanner for Windows Login and it worked pretty well.

[linkboy]

15 hours ago, Donut417 said:

Looking at the system requirements. Microsoft states you can use an IR camera or finger print to log in to Windows or use it as a two factor system. Has anyone tried a Finger Print scanner? I love being able to log in to my Mac with my Finger Print and would love to have that on my Windows PC.

 

The fingerprint reader on my Thinkpad P50 works perfectly fine on Windows 11

[Kilrah]

There are many Windows laptops with fingerprint scanners. Been a thing for decades even but obviously it becomes more popular now. 

[Donut417]

12 minutes ago, linkboy said:

 

The fingerprint reader on my Thinkpad P50 works perfectly fine on Windows 11

I’ve heard the USB ones tend to work poorly. I could consider a camera, but I don’t video chat often. 

[Rohith_Kumar_Sp]

how do guys access task manager quickly now? also you can't force task bar to change accent color?

[jagdtigger]

Pin it to the taskbar. Or alternatively hit win+r, type "taskmgr", hit enter.

[NumLock21]

12 minutes ago, Rohith_Kumar_Sp said:

how do guys access task manager quickly now? also you can't force task bar to change accent color?

Right click start button and task manager

3 button method

Map one of your mouse button to bring up task manager

Change accent color on the taskbar works fine on Win11. Need to first toggle it from automatic to manual, to let you pick the accent color you want for your taskbar.

[Rohith_Kumar_Sp]

4 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Change accent color on the taskbar works fine on Win11. Need to first toggle it from automatic to manual, to let you pick the accent color you want for your taskbar.

huh, i'm still avoiding this until they let us drag files into taskbar into an different app. as someone who edits, its awful they even removed it., also what's the point of having multiple desktops which you can save yet you can't even have different shortcuts in each of them and forced to have the same folders and shortcuts across all, also start menu organizations was a god send for VFX editors with bunch of apps, i remember win 10 when it came, but i hope they get some sense and puts back the old organizations and pinning folders in start menu


 

Spoiler

 

[GoodBytes]

42 minutes ago, Rohith_Kumar_Sp said:

how do guys access task manager quickly now? also you can't force task bar to change accent color?

• Ctrl + Shit + Esc
• Right-click on Start button > Task Manager
• Start > type: Task Manager (can show up by just typing "task" depends on your prior searches and selection) > Enter

[NumLock21]

21 minutes ago, Rohith_Kumar_Sp said:

huh, i'm still avoiding this until they let us drag files into taskbar into an different app. as someone who edits, its awful they even removed it., also what's the point of having multiple desktops which you can save yet you can't even have different shortcuts in each of them and forced to have the same folders and shortcuts across all, also start menu organizations was a god send for VFX editors with bunch of apps, i remember win 10 when it came, but i hope they get some sense and puts back the old organizations and pinning folders in start menu


 

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The tiles was basically what Microsoft had in mind when they were making mobile phones (I think they've stopped), so they bought the tiles over into their OS starting with Windows 8, and like always people complain and want to go back to to the old style. The live tiles were useful because it gives a quick glance at what's important to you and even let you group similar programs together into their own group category.

The live tiles live on through Win10, but with Win11, they kind of went back to the classic start menu.
Live tiles are on its own dedicated section called Widgets where it now requires login to work

True, they need to bring back the organizing of programs into the start menu.

[GoodBytes]

By the way, if someone wants to remove Cortana (which I think MS forgot to remove it).

Open Windows Terminal as Administrator (Right-click on Start button > pick: Windows Terminal (Admin)

 

Then type and execute:

winget uninstall cortana

 

[LAwLz]

1 hour ago, Rohith_Kumar_Sp said:

how do guys access task manager quickly now? also you can't force task bar to change accent color?

I am not on Windows 11 but... Ctrl + Shift + Esc.

[DexterSmythe]

2 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

By the way, if someone wants to remove Cortana (which I think MS forgot to remove it).

Open Windows Terminal as Administrator (Right-click on Start button > pick: Windows Terminal (Admin)

 

Then type and execute:

winget uninstall cortana

 

Just worked for me on Win 11 Enterprise. Thanks for the tip!

[linkboy]

Microsoft has released the first cumulative update for Windows 11. Build 22000.258 has been released.

 

Not much was changed, but unsupported systems are receiving the update via Windows Update (installing it on my ThinkPad P50 right now).

 

Edit

Everything went smoothly and the update installed perfectly fine. My computer didn't blow up.