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AYA NEO Smashes Crowdfunding Goals. Is this the future of PC gaming?

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8 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

A grand for a handheld?!  It’s hard to move a cellphone for that much.  People have tried to sell ultra compact PCs for that kind of money before and gone down in flames. This smells of hype. 

Didn’t Razer make one with a mobile 650le?

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9 hours ago, youed said:

Summary

AYA NEO Releases Indiegogo campaign, raises 1.5 Million USD in under 4 days.

 

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My thoughts

This thing is absolutely insane guys. 800p 500 NIT display, gyro, rumble, replaceable joysticks, usb c, NVME harddrive support, and a SIX CORE RYZEN PROCESSOR! I could keep going and going. This thing is about to change the PC game, especially in the current market we're in. And with xbox and nintendo reportedly working on their next gen handhelds, they will have stiff competition from a console that can play almost every game ever created... ON THE GO! can't say enough good about this thing, check it out guys

 

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https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-AYA-NEO-smashes-crowdfunding-expectations-with-over-US-1-000-000-raised-in-under-24-hours.526822.0.html

https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/8/22320306/aya-neo-handheld-gaming-pc-indiegogo-price-release-date-nintendo-switch

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/aya-neo-crowdfunding-begins

https://wccftech.com/the-aya-neo-handheld-console-can-run-crysis-remasted-and-cyberpunk-2077-with-amds-ryzen-5-4500u-cpu/

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2021/1/18/22237379/aya-neo-gpd-win-3-nintendo-switch-gaming-pc-handheld-specs-comparison

 

EDIT: I see a lot of you guys have doubts, questions, etc. Please come to the official AYA discord https://discord.gg/Q3cRpQVq.
 

This thing can run cyberpunk 2077 guys. can the switch do that? can you do that on your desktop on the toilet? hmmmm....

 

And a video for those who say the chip is not powerful or will hit thermal limits

DISCLAIMER: I am not at all affiliated with AYA as a company. They don't pay me anything haha. I'm just one of the many backers who's excited to see someone take a swing at GPD

Author is main proponent, buyer, and is marking his own statement as the “solved” in a news post.  Those alone smell heavily of hype.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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4 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

Didn’t Razer make one with a mobile 650le?

I dunno. I never heard of it which implies at least to me it didn’t sell all that well. 

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere.

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7 hours ago, gloop said:

But why would I want to have a dock if I have a powerful PC that will perform much better than an iGPU? I would only get a Switch for the exclusives, but this only looks like it runs native PC games which I can just play on my more powerful PC?

Assumes you don’t have one I think.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere.

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5 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

I dunno. I never heard of it which implies at least to me it didn’t sell all that well. 

There we go: https://www2.razer.com/gaming-systems/razer-edge

Sold pretty well from what I remember, but this was 2013. m640 LE. (smh that was 8 years ago now!)

 

These devices are just unnecessary in 2021 - a good high-def screen with controllers will be better, and just stream the games. 

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It will sell to target audiences, I am not that target.

 

Unless it can do all the things a laptop can...then I might consider it.

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9 hours ago, gloop said:

I don’t want to play PC games on a screen the rough size of a Switch. I want to play them on my 28” monitor, with my mechanical keyboard and high-quality mouse. I don’t want to have to hold it anytime I play. 
 

it’s literally going against the standards of PC gaming, and is probably going to die within a year. 

I see nothing wrong with being able to play PC games on the go on a "Switch-like" device. Just because you don't want to, it does not mean others don't want to.

Also if it can handle PC games well, it will likely be a great for emulation as well. Many Switch games can now be played via emulator, you could use this to play all kinds of games.

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Nope it's going to fail. The PSP failed and had Sony behind it with exclusives too. That was many many years ago too when mobile gaming on smart phones and tablets wasn't even a thing

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9 hours ago, Arika S said:

the following was supposed to be the future of PC gaming

  • stadia
  • Steam proton (linux gaming)
  • Unlimited Detail's Point cloud (from 2011 LOL)
  • VR
  • niche kickstarter 1
  • niche kickstarter 2
  • niche kickstarter 3
  • etc etc

 

i don't know about you, but nothing seems to have changed....like at all because of any of the above.

As someone who once ran an ubuntu based distro, Proton was a game changer for gaming on Linux.  The issue was that some people thought it would magically convert millions of gamers away from Windows which was never its goal.  It’s goal was to give access to windows games to Linux gamers who are a fraction of a percent at best.

 

Other than proton tho, I 100% agree with your points.  I do think there is a market for cloud gaming on PCs (xCloud is looking good) but I think it’s going to be a small niche at best geared towards iGPU users and won’t “revolutionize” gaming as we know it.

Arch is better than Ubuntu. Fight me peko.

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1 hour ago, WereCat said:

Just because you don't want to, it does not mean others don't want to.

That’s why I later clarified. 

8 hours ago, gloop said:

If you end up getting and enjoying it then I'll be glad for you. I'm always for innovation in the PC market and something like this could potentially set off something for the future/.

I was just offering my perspective on the topic, and it seems like a few other users also agree. 

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10 hours ago, Eigenvektor said:

The Verge says early starting price is $799, final sales price is $999. If things go back to normal you can buy a fairly capable machine for $999.

At  999$ you can buy a decent gaming laptop so I don't see a market for this product

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2 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Nope it's going to fail. The PSP failed and had Sony behind it with exclusives too.

>PSP

>80 million units sold

>failure

 

Are you sure?

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52 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

>PSP

>80 million units sold

>failure

 

Are you sure?

I should have specified failed in todays market. The PSP 3000 and before were pretty popular but that's also because they were around in the early 2000s competing with gameboys and nintendo DS Lites. The PSP Vita and PSP Street were announced in 2011 and discontinued in 2014 after selling only 5 million units. Compare that to the Nintendo switch which came out in 2017 and has sold over 80 million units in todays market. 

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2 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

I should have specified failed in todays market. The PSP 3000 and before were pretty popular but that's also because they were around in the early 2000s competing with gameboys and nintendo DS Lites. The PSP Vita and PSP Street were announced in 2011 and discontinued in 2014 after selling only 5 million units. Compare that to the Nintendo switch which came out in 2017 and has sold over 80 million units in todays market. 

 

1 hour ago, Benji said:

Sorry, but how exactly are over a thousand games published and ~77 million units sold (it got discontinued 2014 but these are Sony numbers from 2012) (which is, if you'll remember, only a little less than the Xbox 360 and the PS3) a "fail"?

I mean, I don't really see this niche product blowing up like some people expect or that it'll be "the future of PC gaming", but calling the PSP a "fail" is ridiculous. I assume you are talking about the PlayStation Vita, that thing didn't sell much.

 

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15 hours ago, youed said:

This thing can run cyberpunk 2077 guys. can the switch do that? can you do that on your desktop on the toilet? hmmmm....

If you have time to game while on the toilet or you need to be gaming while on the toilet then there are issues that need addressed promptly.

 

 

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If you have time to game while on the toilet or you need to be gaming while on the toilet then there are issues that need addressed promptly.

 

 

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16 hours ago, youed said:

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AYA NEO Releases Indiegogo campaign, raises 1.5 Million USD in under 4 days.

 

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This thing is absolutely insane guys. 800p 500 NIT display, gyro, rumble, replaceable joysticks, usb c, NVME harddrive support, and a SIX CORE RYZEN PROCESSOR! I could keep going and going.

You know these projects come out every year in korea and hong kong, and they only ever get used for emulating the existing consoles right?

 

There's this:

https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pyra/ 

 

Gamepark's consoles

 

GamePad's are basically just laptops in console shapes.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gpd-win3-the-world-s-1st-handheld-aaa-game-console#/

 

Don't get too excited. They're not competitive with the Nintendo Switch, and non-removable console controls pretty much mean it has a short lifespan before the entire thing has to be thrown out, cause you're never going to find replacement parts.

 

It would be interesting if an actual "nintendo switch" style platform were to exist and be standardized in a way on a open-source OS, but that has yet to ever happen. There are many things that could be improved over the Switch, but they tend to add weight or heat to the console, and that's usually why these projects fail.

 

People don't want a laptop in this kind of shape, they want a lightweight console in this shape.

 

 

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16 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

What are they selling them for?  A 4500u is not a cheap chip. This thing sounds like a $600+ machine.  If they’re claiming they can sell it for a fraction of that I can see people jumping on it.  Folks might be planning on selling it for parts. You can deball a cpu with a household oven oven in theory.

A surprising amount. Especially since these funding "packages" are usually discounted compared to what they hope to retail for. I see in the picture this is 10% off and they plan on the $1000 price point. 

6 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Nope it's going to fail. The PSP failed and had Sony behind it with exclusives too. That was many many years ago too when mobile gaming on smart phones and tablets wasn't even a thing

The PSP and WiiU both failed at a fraction of the price.  The Series X and PS5 both do circles around this for a fraction of the cost. I don't really understand the market for this.

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15 hours ago, Eigenvektor said:

Right. If I needed mobility and gaming I'd rather buy a laptop for this kind of money. I get that it's not quite the same, since larger screen size and keyboard does have downsides in terms of "play on the go". But at the same time a laptop is more capable, so I'm more willing to spend this type of money.

Tbh I would rather just save money and get the switch. The biggest reason why the switch is so successful is it is a handheld device by design with games made for it by design so it meshes really well. The biggest issue with pc handhelds is that windows was certainly not meant to run on a handheld and most pc games weren't as well. Why waste a 1000 dollars on a device that won't have nearly as good software support as the switch which is a fraction of the price. 

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I’ll give the point that it’s by definition better than a console. It’s more cpu but less gpu.  What makes it better is the freedom from coercion.  An Xbox or a PS5 is basically a vending machine you have to pay for.  A machine like this would be App Store agnostic.  One of the major advantages of PC. It doesn’t just cost more though, it costs a lot more. For this kind of thing to work I would think it would need to cost the same or have significantly better gpu performance. Apple might get away with such a thing if the m1 gpu is as shithot as some say.  I don’t believe it is, and I notice apple HASN’T tried something like this. Perhaps one more generation of integrated gpu development and this concept might be ready to put out the door.

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But can this also be practical for productivity in ANY professional space? No?

 

Yeah, this ain't changing PC Gaming.

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But can this also be practical for productivity in ANY professional space? No?

 

Yeah, this ain't changing PC Gaming.

I got one but it’s so tiny it doesn’t matter: wheeled drone piloting.  It would perhaps kick ass for that. 

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What? It's not even a PC too. Also big no, it won't change anything, it's still another hand-held toy though.

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1. AYA NEO Releases Indiegogo campaign, raises 1.5 Million USD in under 4 days.

This thing is absolutely insane guys. 800p 500 NIT display, gyro, rumble, replaceable joysticks, usb c, NVME harddrive support, and a SIX CORE RYZEN PROCESSOR! I could keep going and going.

 

2. This thing is about to change the PC game, especially in the current market we're in. And with xbox and nintendo reportedly working on their next gen handhelds, they will have stiff competition from a console that can play almost every game ever created... ON THE GO! can't say enough good about this thing, check it out guys

 

3. EDIT: I see a lot of you guys have doubts, questions, etc. Please come to the official AYA discord <link removed by staff>
 

4. This thing can run cyberpunk 2077 guys. can the switch do that? can you do that on your desktop on the toilet? hmmmm....

https://wccftech.com/the-aya-neo-handheld-console-can-run-crysis-remasted-and-cyberpunk-2077-with-amds-ryzen-5-4500u-cpu/

1. Very cool

 

2. Wait what?? so i'm gonna spend a grand on a more powerful switch just at the chance to fanboy over AMD chips?? no thank you. For that price I'll build a PC that does way better. If I want mobile gaming, I have my phone for the few times I'm wanting to game on tiny screens. Why would I WANT to play a visually amazing game like Cyberpunk 2077 on a tiny little screen, no matter how good the specs? I WOULDN'T. It might change the handheld gaming market, but this ain't gonna touch the PC market one bit

 

3. Yeah this sounds a lot like an ad. I know you say you're not affiliated but this came off super like an ad the whole way thru

 

4. Cyberpunk 2077 30 FPS Low (1280×800)

 nope...

 

Overall: this is a cool idea, actually trying to make a product better in the way customers have been asking for, but they're targeting a market where that kind of cost and effort doesn't make sense. A motorcycle is great as a cheap transport, good mileage for most and some new under 10K. Then to make a motorcycle that costs 40K, you've lost most of the market by making it too expensive. Why spend 40K on a motorcycle when I can spend 30K and get a ballin' car with heated seats, cupholders, no need to wear a helmet or leather jackets to stay warm, ridiculously more storage? It simply has priced itself out of the class of device it's aiming for. Lots of enthusiasts will buy it, as evident with their kickstarter success so far, but beyond that, few people will be willing to spend that kind of money for 30 fps Cyberpunk2077 on a 7 inch screen when they can get a PC running it on med-high with a 27" monitor

Insanity is not the absence of sanity, but the willingness to ignore it for a purpose. Chaos is the result of this choice. I relish in both.

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