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Intel Core i9-11900(k) + i7-11700(k/kf) 8c16t Rocket Lake Desktop CPU Benchmarks and Pricing Leaked: (Update #8)

An early ES Chip of the Rocket Lake i9-11900 CPU with 1.8 GHz Clocks has been tested on the Z490 Platform. The processor is a very early engineering sample that has been tested on the Intel 400-series board platform (which more or less confirms that 11th Gen CPUs will be backward compatible on existing LGA 1200 socket motherboards). This particular chip, the Core i9-11900 is the lower TDP variation of the Core i9-11900K; It features 8 cores, 16 threads and will feature clock speeds rated at 1.8 GHz base, 4.4 GHz boost (1-core), and 3.8 GHz (all-core boost). IPC Gains are looking promising for 11th Gen based on these leaks. 

 

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The CPU was tested on an MSI Z490i motherboard. The fact that it was able to run on this board confirms that Intel will allow backward compatibility of Rocket Lake 11th Gen CPUs on existing 400-series motherboards. There will also be 500-series motherboards to arrive a whole two months earlier than the Rocket Lake Desktop CPUs. Let's look at how the Core i9-11900 fares within benchmarks:

 

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In CPU-z, the chip scores 582.1 points in the single-core and 5262 points in the multi-core tests. The Intel Core i9-10900K (the current flagship) boosts up to 5.3 GHz and scores an average of 584 (1T) points while the Core i7-10700K scores 558 points. The Rocket Lake CPU is 4% faster than the Core i7-10700K and on par with the Core i9-10900K. Do note though that both Comet Lake chips have clocks that exceed 5.0 GHz while the Rocket Lake chip has a 16-18% max clock speed deficit versus those chips. This definitely shows the impressive IPC gains that even the 65W Rocket Lake chips have to offer while the 125W parts will be exceeding those figures with ease.

 

An updated benchmark has also been found by @OneRaichu which shows an even higher score for the Intel Core i9-11900. Here, the chip scores 597.3 points in single & 5686.2 points in the multi-threaded tests. The updated score puts the Core i9-11900 at a 7% lead over the 10700K and a 2% lead over the 10900K in single-core tests. The chip also ends up faster than the Core i7-10700K which has a higher all-core boost clock in multi-threaded tests. Moving on to the multi-threaded benchmarks, the Core i9-10900K scores 7386 points while the Core i7-10700K scores 5661 points. Here, the Intel Core i7-10700K ends up 9% faster than the i9 Rocket Lake Desktop CPU while the Core i9-10900K leads much ahead owing to its 10 cores & 20 threads. The Intel Core i7-10700K once again has a much higher boost clock stability of 4.7 GHz versus the 3.8 GHz all-core boost of the Core i9-11900. Even with almost a 1 GHz difference, the Core i9-11900 coming this close to the Core i7-10700K shows a good sign for Intel's 11th Gen CPU family.

 

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Source 1: https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-11900-8-core-rocket-lake-desktop-cpu-benchmarks-leak-out/

Source 2: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/11900k-engineering-sample-cpu-z

 

Rocket Lake is starting to look more promising with every leak, IMO. Looking at the numbers, and doing some quick napkin math: with a small 9% clock speed bump (from 4.4GHz to 4.8GHz) simulating the i9-11900k, the Rocket Lake chip goes from 582 to 635 points; making the Rocket Lake chip 8.8% faster compared to the Comet Lake i9-10900k (but with 9.4% slower/lower clocks). If we push the clocks on the i9-11900 to the "expected" 5.3GHz mark (of the k variant), bringing clock speed parity between it and the 10th Gen i9-10900k Comet Lake Chip. We now have a score in the 701 point range, making it nearly 20% faster than Comet Lake (10th Gen) clock for clock. Showing solid IPC gains with the 11th Gen Rocket Lake CPUs. Now obviously it is best to wait until launch to see if these results can be confirmed by independent reviews. So as always, and especially being that the source is WCCFTech; take this information with a grain of salt and remain skeptical until Q1 of 2021 (when launch for 11th Gen Rocket Lake is supposed to occur).

 

Interesting update (Ashes of the Singularity / AoTS i7-11700KF Benchmark Leak)

 

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A few more updates to this story ~

 

Intel Core i9-11900 Rocket Lake-S Sample tested on B560 motherboard

 

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Asian-based leakers have no problems finding the engineering samples of the new CPUs. It appears that the vast majority of the samples that were sent out are Core i9-11900 non-K CPUs (labeled QV1J). Engineering samples are clocked lower than retail units or have some boost frequencies disabled. It is also worth noting that, the sample tested by a leaker from Bilibili appears to have Xe Graphics present, although they cannot be tested due to lack of a driver.

 

The CPU has been tested in Cinebench R15 and R20:

 

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The processor appears to match Core i7-10700 or Core i9-9900K, depending on the workload. The final version of the CPU should perform better. The leaker also tested the CPU power consumption using AIDA’s AVX512 and AVX2 tests. The package consumption varies between 123 to 161 W depending on which instruction was set for the test. It was also determined through the motherboard’s BIOS that the CPU’s PL1 and PL2 values are set to 65W and 224W respectively.

 

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Source 6: https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-11900-rocket-lake-s-engineering-sample-tested-on-b560-motherboard

Source 7: https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/rocket-lake-s-processors-likely-have-similar-pl2-states-as-10th-gen-intel-core-i9-11900-rocket-lake-s-leak.html

 

Intel Core i9-11900K, Core i9-11900, and Core i7-11700 engineering samples emerge

 

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The leaker from Chiphell claims that he just received the samples of three Rocket Lake CPUs. including the 11900K. The engineering samples are clearly clocked lower than retails units that we expect to appear in the leaks soon. The Core i9-11900K ES appears to have a base clock of 3.4 GHz and a turbo of 4.8 GHz. The rumored specs mentioned a 3.5 GHz base clock and thermal velocity boost up to 5.3 GHz, this technology however is not shown by the CPU-Z software. The unit is clearly a 125W TDP model, indicating this is a K series CPU. The Core i9-11900 and i7-11700 engineering samples have also acquired by the leaker. Both CPUs carry a base clock of 1.8 GHz with the turbo at 4.4 GHz for the 11900 CPU and 4.4 GHz for the 11700. Both samples are 65W processors. According to the leaker, the samples were acquired for as much as 2800 Yuans (430 USD) for the 11900K, 2300 Yuans (350 USD) for the 11900 non-K sample, and 1600 Yuans (245 USD) for the Core i7 model. 

 

The leaker also posted a Cinebench R20 score of the i7-11700 sample. The CPU allegedly scored 529 points in the single-core benchmark with 4672 points in the multi-core test:

 

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Source 8: https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-rocket-lake-core-i9-11900k-i9-11900-i7-11700-engineering-sample-cpu-z-screenshots-leak

 

Another nice Rocket Lake update  ~

 

Intel Rocket Lake Core i9-11900K outperforms Ryzen 9 5950X in leaked Ashes benchmark. Intel could steal back its gaming performance crown from AMD, according to the leaked benchmark.

 

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Intel's next flagship desktop processor, the Core i9-11900K, may only have eight cores, but it is already comparing well against the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in gaming benchmarks. The Core i9-11900K holds upwards of an 8% advantage over AMD's 16-core Vermeer chip, even with essentially the same boost clock as its Comet Lake-S predecessor. The processor has been benchmarked with a GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, allowing further comparisons to be drawn between it and other recent desktop processors. According to the new entries, the Core i9-11900K scores around 6,075 points with a GeForce RTX 2080 Ti and 32 GB of RAM. The processor also achieved a framerate of 61.9 FPS on the Crazy_1080p preset running the DirectX 12 preset. By contrast, a similar Core i9-10900K system scored 5,700 points, even though it has two more cores than the Core-11900K. The Core i9-11900K still managed to outscore the Ryzen 9 5950X by a healthy margin. As the screenshot below shows, the Ryzen 9 5950X loses out by nearly 500 points and 5 FPS in the same preset.

 

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The images above show the Ryzen 9 5950X getting 57 fps on the 1080p Crazy preset using an RTX 2080 Ti, against the Rocket Lake-S Core i9-11900K scoring 63 fps using the same GPU and with the same presets.  The only notable difference between the two systems is that the Ryzen spec is equipped with 16GB of memory while the 11900K has 32GB. This is unlikely to have skewed the results, however. The results would indicate that the Intel Core i9-11900K is running around 10.5% faster than its opponent, but it's worth bearing in mind that if this is indeed a genuine 11900K, it’s still an early engineering test sample and isn't indicative of the full performance of the final chip!

 

Source 9: https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Intel-Core-i9-11900K-beats-the-Ryzen-9-5950X-in-new-Ashes-of-the-Singularity-benchmarks.509533.0.html

Source 10: https://www.techradar.com/news/intel-could-steal-back-its-gaming-performance-crown-from-amd-according-to-leaked-benchmark

 

Minor update ~

 

Geekbench i7-11700k Benchmark Result on Z490 AORUS MASTER 

 

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Source 11: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/5567437

Source 12: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Short-lived-happiness-for-Zen-3-Intel-Rocket-Lake-S-Core-i9-11900-QS-up-to-7-lead-over-the-Ryzen-7-5800X-and-up-to-33-over-the-Core-i9-10900K-Core-i9-11900-ES2-similar-to-9900K-10700K.512255.0.html 

 

As a reference here are some recent Ryzen 7 5800X results in the same benchmark. After looking through a decent amount of them, I would say at worst it is a tie between the 5800X and 11700k, at best the 11700k is slightly ahead on average. 

 

A few smallish updates  ~ 

 

Intel Core i9-11900K Rocket Lake-S Already Pushed To 5.2GHz All-Core Overclock:

 

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An upcoming Core i9-11900K has been spotted racing along at 5.2GHz on all cores (overclocked). In the meantime, someone has taken an apparent engineering sample and cranked all 8 cores to 5.2GHz. Have a look...

 

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However, we can at least see that they set the multiplier to 52x, resulting in a 5,204MHz (5.2GHz) all-core overclock. Suggesting it was a stable OC (or at least partially stable), they benchmarked the overclocked chip in CPU-Z, obtaining a single-core score of 706.3 and a multi-threaded score of 7,198.8. How do those scores compare? To find out, we headed over to CPU-Z's validator page, which lists scores for a whole bunch of processors. Oddly, it does not contain any Ryzen 5000 series scores, so we sprinkled in some results found on the web for those processors. Here is the single-core breakdown...

  • Leaked Core i9-11900K: 706
  • Ryzen 9 5950X: 677
  • Ryzen 9 5900X: 677
  • Ryzen 7 5800X: 663
  • Ryzen 5 5600X: 638
  • Core i9-10900K: 584
  • Core i9-9900KS: 582
  • Core i7-10700K: 558
  • Core i9-9900K: 545
  • Core i7-10700: 540
  • Ryzen 9 3950X: 524
  • Ryzen 9 3900X: 521

 

The Core i9-11900K running at 5.2GHz takes the top spot in single-threaded performance, and outpaces the current-generation Core i7-10700K by quite a bit. What about the multi-core score? Let's have a look...
 
  • Ryzen 9 5950X: 12,329
  • Ryzen 9 3950X: 10,867
  • Ryzen 9 5900X: 9,768
  • Ryzen 9 3900X: 8,177
  • Leaked Core i9-11900K: 7,198
  • Core i9-10900K: 7,159
  • Ryzen 7 5800X: 6,766
  • Core i9-9900KS: 5,997
  • Core i7-10700K: 5,660
  • Core i9-9900K: 5,512
  • Core i7-10700: 5,435b

Here we see CPUs with more cores and threads outpace the overclocked Core i9-11900K, as we would expect. Against other processors with the same number of cores and threads, however, the overclocked Rocket Lake-S processor performs very well.

 

Source 13: https://hothardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-11900k-rocket-lake-s-52ghz-all-core-overclock

 

Rocket Lake Engineering Samples Benchmarked Against Zen 3:

 

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In a recent post on Chip Hell, a user reportedly grabbed an early B560 motherboard and engineering samples of three of Intel's new Rocket Lake CPUs, including the Core i7-11700, Core i9-11900, and Core i9-11900K. The tested pitched each processor against AMD's Zen 3-powered Ryzen 7 5800X to see just how they compare to AMD's best eight-core chip. Since these are engineering samples, the Intel chips' clocks speeds are significantly lower than we would likely see with retail models. The poster also threw in Intel's previous-gen Core i9-9900K and Core i7-10700K as well to compare gen-on-gen performance gains.

 

Here are the Rocket Lake engineering samples tested:  

  • QV1J, Core i7-11700 ES -- 1.8GHz base frequency, 4.4GHz boost frequency.
  • QVTE, Core i9-11900 ES -- 1.8GHz base frequency, 4.5GHz boost frequency.
  • QV1K, Core i9-11900K ES -- 3.4GHz base frequency, 4.8GHz boost frequency.

Please not that the engineering samples for Rocket Lake are clocked so low, that any performance benchmarks from these samples are specific to these samples alone, and will not represent actual Rocket Lake performance when the retail SKUs hit shelves this year.

 

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Source 14: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rocket-lake-engineering-samples-benchmarked

Source 15: https://www.chiphell.com/thread-2290061-1-1.html

 

11th Gen Intel i9-11900k Cinebench R15 Run:

 

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Score = 2575 cb 

 

For comparative reference: 

 

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Zen 3 Ryzen 7 5800X, Score = 2509 cb 

 

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Source 16: https://twitter.com/9550pro/status/1346487195096367104

 

Fun update to this thread  ~

 

Intel's new Rocket Lake-S processor has been pushed to 6.9GHz using LN2 cooling and RAM clocked to 6666.66MHz:

 

A mysterious Intel Rocket Lake-S processor has been overclocked to an incredible rate of 6.923 GHz with the help of plenty of liquid nitrogen and probably a Gigabyte Z590 Aorus motherboard. A couple of video clips of the feat have been posted online, which also reveal the RAM speeding along at a more than devilish 6,666 MHz.

 

An Intel Rocket Lake-S CPU with 8 cores and 16 threads has recently surfaced in an overclocking video (this processor should either be the Core i9-11900K or the Core i7-11700K), being pushed to 6.923 GHz operating frequency, as showcased via a CPU-Z screen-grabbed from the video. It can be seen from the CPU-Z that the overclocked CPU at 6.9 GHz supports instruction sets not available to Intel's current lineup of desktop CPUs, but that will be supported by Rocket Lake-S: namely, SHA and AVX512F. Likewise, the cache sizes correspond to the expected changes for Intel's Rocket Lake-S. The overclocked CPU was paired with overclocked DDR4 memory as well, which was brought up to 6,666 MHz, buoyed by a crispy 1.830 V. Motherboard information is scarce, but it's speculated that it's a Gigabyte Z590 Aorus motherboard.

 

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Source 17: https://www.eteknix.com/intel-rocket-lake-s-cpu-already-overclocked-6-9ghz

Source 18: https://www.techpowerup.com/276955/intel-rocket-lake-s-cpu-pushed-to-6-9-ghz-on-ln2 

Source 19: https://www.techradar.com/news/overclockers-push-intel-rocket-lake-s-processor-to-69ghz 

Source 20: https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-rocket-lake-s-cpu-overclocked-to-6-9-ghz-using-liquid-nitrogen

Source 21: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-11th-gen-rocket-lake-s-cpu-overclocked-69ghz-liquid-nitrogen

Source 22: https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/joao-silva/intel-rocket-lake-s-8-core-cpu-overclocked-to-6-9ghz-using-ln2

Source 23: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/77203/intels-next-gen-rocket-lake-pushed-to-6-9ghz-with-ln2-cooling/index.html

Source 24: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Overclocked-Intel-Rocket-Lake-S-processor-flies-past-6-9-GHz-using-a-likely-Gigabyte-Z590-Aorus-motherboard-while-the-RAM-hits-a-beyond-diabolical-6-666-MHz.514081.0.html  

 

Here's a pricing update to this story (something everyone was hoping to hear, better pricing than last gen) ~ 

 

Pricing for Intel's upcoming Rocket Lake-S series of desktop processors has recently been leaked by European etailer computer stores. The SKUs that were listed by the retailer(s) include the high-end Rocket Lake-S and entry-level Comet Lake-Refresh processors. Core i9-11900K to cost € 600:

 

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Intel Core i9-11900K vs 10900K Pricing, (2Compute):

 

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Intel 11th Gen Core Rocket Lake-S Pricing, (2Compute):

 

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The pricing from other retailers has also been leaked, according to the data posted, some retailers are listing the new CPU at a lower price than the current Comet Lake-S series, whereas other retailers tend to list them at a higher price. So despite the fact that multiple retailers already listed the new CPUs, it is not possible to determine which listed pricing is closer to Intel’s MSRP, which hasn’t been announced yet.

 

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Source 25: https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-rocket-lake-s-prices-surface-at-european-etailers-i9-11900k-to-cost-€-600.html

Source 26: https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-11th-gen-core-rocket-lake-s-cpus-prices-listed-by-multiple-retailers

Source 27: https://www.techpowerup.com/277443/intel-rocket-lake-s-processors-european-pricing-leaked

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These are early ES parts (Stepping A0). I take issue with news calling them a 11900/11900K. These are not that.

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Just now, BiG StroOnZ said:

 

According to this chart, 1.8GHz appears to be the base clock (the single core boost is 4.4GHz, and all-core boost is 3.8GHz):

 

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That seems oddly placed for a high tier CPU called a i9-11900...at least a base clock of 3.0 GHz. 

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2 minutes ago, BiG StroOnZ said:

 

More so because it's a 65w part with a 35w variant purportedly existing as well (i9-11900T).

It could be, since its an engineering sample, its hard to say what it is exactly...they could have fubbed the name. 

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3 minutes ago, CommanderAlex said:

It could be, since its an engineering sample, its hard to say what it is exactly...they could have fubbed the name. 

 

Some food for thought from the source link in the OP:

 

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The Intel Core i9-11900K will rock the full 125W (PL1) TDP & Intel's Core i9-11900 will rock a more reasonable 65W (PL1) TDP. The Core i9-11900 will end up around 120-125W when it boosts to its max frequency while the Core i9-11900K will feature max TDP figures of up to 250W.

 

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20 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

These are early ES parts (Stepping A0). I take issue with news calling them a 11900/11900K. These are not that.

11700H maybe?

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I thought rocket/cypress lake only had 8/16 because it was bigLITTLE.  Looking at the article I’m not 100% certain it doesn’t but it seems unlikely. Is it AlderLake where intel does that? Or ever later?  The M1 apparently already is bigLITTLE, at least sort of. 

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13 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Is it AlderLake where intel does that? Or ever later? 

 

It does appear that it is indeed Alder Lake (Intel 12th Gen) with the "hybrid design" big.LITTLE/SMALL Core Configuration:

 

al1.jpg.53dd7c805b885b7a80f9bae387500e39.jpg

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-alder-lake-s-and-alder-lake-p-cpu-gpu-and-pch-configurations-leaked

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-rocket-lake-and-alder-lake-cpus-pictured

 

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https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-tiger-lake-h-alder-lake-s-and-alder-lake-p-series-detailed

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50 minutes ago, BiG StroOnZ said:

According to this chart, 1.8GHz appears to be the base clock (the single-core boost is 4.4GHz, and the all-core boost is 3.8GHz):

The 11900K is going to be a monster if those clocks are accurate.

 

I wish leakers would run benchmarks like SuperPI and wPrime.

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19 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

I thought rocket/cypress lake only had 8/16 because it was bigLITTLE.  Looking at the article I’m not 100% certain it doesn’t but it seems unlikely. Is it AlderLake where intel does that? Or ever later?  The M1 apparently already is bigLITTLE, at least sort of. 

Rocket Lake is a 14nm backport of either Ice lake or Tiger Lake (sunny or willow cove cores), which are 10nm.  Not sure exactly which.  You know those brand new laptops that are newer than comet lake?  It's basically a desktop version of that chip.

 

Alder Lake is 7nm and Socket 1700 with "Big Little" (Twinsen LBA3 incoming).

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Not really surprising. 

 

Rocket Lake is significant in the sense that it finally retired Intel's aging Skylake-based core architecture. It's still 14nm, but it's a backport of Sunny Cove, used in Ice Lake made on 10nm.

 

So there would be some significant gains in IPC. 

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Eh my i5 9600k still plays muh vidya gaems really fast and I have an 8c/16t option if I wanted to upgrade while keeping my motherboard.

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13 minutes ago, Joduko said:

Eh my i5 9600k still plays muh vidya gaems really fast and I have an 8c/16t option if I wanted to upgrade while keeping my motherboard.

Sounds like you won’t have any use for this chip for the lifetime of your machine most likely then

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6 hours ago, Falkentyne said:

Rocket Lake is a 14nm backport of either Ice lake or Tiger Lake (sunny or willow cove cores), which are 10nm.  Not sure exactly which.  You know those brand new laptops that are newer than comet lake?  It's basically a desktop version of that chip.

The architecture difference between Ice Lake and Tiger Lake is primarily the amount the cache included, with Tiger Lake having increased sizes to help with performance. Tiger Lake also got a process update so it is no longer restricted on clocks. I think there was a small addition of some instruction with Tiger Lake also, which one rumour suggested was included in Rocket Lake, but the cache configuration is the smaller Ice Lake quantity. It is a logical conclusion it's IPC will be similar to Ice Lake, which when it originally came out Intel claimed 18% IPC increase over Skylake.

 

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Alder Lake is 7nm and Socket 1700 with "Big Little"

I don't recall talk of it being 7nm before. Thought it was still 10nm.

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Rocket Lake is just a place holder for Alder lake,

Both 11th gen and 12th gen are to be released in 2021.

 

For Alder Lake you are going to need a new LGA 1700 motherboard...

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1 hour ago, porina said:

I don't recall talk of it being 7nm before. Thought it was still 10nm.

You are correct,Intel are expected to use the 10nm SuperFin process node for Alder Lake,

That's what Intel announced after all.

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6 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Rocket Lake is just a place holder for Alder lake,

Both 11th gen and 12th gen are to be released in 2021.

...if there are no further delays. My gut feeling is Rocket Lake is likely to meet the currently communicated Q1, but I have less confidence that Alder Lake will be on time. Look at Ice Lake server, unless that remains on the pre-SF 10nm where Alder Lake is SF or ESF (without looking it up).

 

6 minutes ago, Vishera said:

For Alder Lake you are going to need a new LGA 1700 motherboard...

While I'm not aware of any official communication, it seems the logical time to move to DDR5, so that'll be interesting.

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This is good. It means AMD will be working hard on further IPC improvements and higher clocks. We've been waiting for such market situation for years :D You know, AMD and Intel poking each other for our money.

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